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Foreigners who test positive for C19 in Thailand won’t be able to use the public health system

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The battle to reopen Thailand’s borders is shaping up as a 3-way PR fight between economic hawks who are eager to re-open to reboot the country’s tourism industry, a government and medical officials resting on their laurels after containing the virus, and a risk-averse population who, survey after survey, indicate they are keen to keep the borders closed.

In another effort to assuage Thai fears, a doctor at the infectious disease department has stated that any foreigner found to be infected with Covid-19, while in alternative state quarantine, would be taken to a partner hospital in the private sector, not a Thai public hospital.

Dr Opas Karnkawinpong has made it clear that foreigners would have to pay for their treatment and medication themselves.

“They won’t be a burden on the Thai health system.”

Dr Opas laid out the strict measures that foreigners would have to submit to before travelling to Thailand. Apart from the effort and cost of finding a flight at this time, gaining permission from their country’s Thai Embassy, they would have to get fit-to-fly and entry certificates, Covid-free documentation, health insurance and upfront payments for their 14 day Alternative State Quarantine.

“If infected they would go to a special isolation unit at the hospital partnered with the quarantine hotel. Non serious cases would be there for 10 days, those with serious conditions like lung infections may have to stay for a month.”

• Those with no symptoms but who tested positive would have to stay in hospital for ten days after their positive test.

• Others would have to be hospitalized for ten days after developing symptoms then a further 24 hour period after symptoms fully abate.

• In more severe cases the length of hospitalization would be at the discretion of doctors. People may only be let out after xrays, temperature and breathing rate checks satisfied medical teams.

A list of several measures were also mentioned for people after they go home from hospital. These include recommendations to wear masks, socially distance, wash hands and surfaces, use separate eating utensils to others. If they get sick again they must take private transport to a hospital. Family members are being advised to monitor their own health closely.

SOURCE: Siam Rath | Thai Visa

 

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56 Comments

56 Comments

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    Toby Andrews

    Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 9:33 am

    So why have visitors to Thailand have to have the insurance only sold to them by Thais?
    Because if they become contagious they still have to pay for hospital treatment!
    They really are lying cheating snakes.
    However I never expected a Thai insurance company to pay up anyway.

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      Bobby

      Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 9:46 am

      Yes we would have to pay but I wonder if you can trust all the medicos in Thailand how much money do they want to milk you for untill the say you are ok ??????

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      Issan John

      Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 1:21 pm

      NO, TOTALLY UNTRUE, AND NOT CORRECT IN ANY WAY.

      First, visitors can have an insurance policy from a number of approved insurance providers (including non-Thai insurers), NOT “ONLY” the OIC one. To quote The Thaiger: “Up to now the compulsory Covid-19 insurance, a pre-requisite before foreigners can come to Thailand, under any visa, was through selected insurance providers at their own websites. The Thailand Office of Insurance Commission has allowed the review of its policy, making it easier to find and purchase the compulsory insurance.”

      Secondly, the OIC insurance policy specifically states that it ONLY covers treatment in private hositals, NOT government hospitals, and that’s also made very clear in all the reports INCUDING HERE BY THE THAIGER: “No need for advance payment or out-of-pocket expenses when admitted at private hospitals nationwide. Insurance coverage does not exceed US$100,000 or about 3.16 million Baht.”

      The problem with the OIC policy is that it although it covers up to US$100,000 it only covers an individual standard room, which may not suit a family or young children who have to quarantine in a hospital, and it doesn’t cover and specifically excludes any ICU treatment which would be a deciding factor for many.

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        Toby Andrews

        Monday, November 2, 2020 at 10:08 am

        I do not see that above.
        In fact I see Dr Opas Karnypong has made it clear that foreigners will have to pay for their treatment and medication themselves.
        No mention of the insurance paying.
        This change from only Thai company insurance being allowed to including foreign company insurance being allowed.
        Where is that?
        I cannot find it.
        I did find that the OIC will only allow insurance companies they approve to provide insurance, and I am sure Thais will act as normal and exclude foreign competition.
        OIC might make it easier to find insurance – as long as it is a Thai company insurance.
        I think you are confused. If an expat residing in Thailand has foreign company insurance, the IOC will accept that, but not for visitors.
        Have you been drinking?

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          Issan John

          Monday, November 2, 2020 at 7:48 pm

          “No mention of the insurance paying.”

          Nor any of insurance NOT paying, which is what you’re claiming. The article isn’t about Covid insurance, but about Covid treatment for “ANY FOREIGNER FOUND TO BE INFECTED WITH COVID-19 WHILE IN ALTERNATIVE STATE QUARANTINE”.

          OIC is clear about this, as are the other articles in Thaiger and elsewhere – THIS article isn’t about visitor insurance, though – you’re simply making a connection which not only isn’t mentioned in the article but doesn’t exist.

          If you “do not see that” because you don’t want to read it, that’s up to you.

          “This change from only Thai company insurance being allowed to including foreign company insurance being allowed.
          Where is that?
          I cannot find it.”

          It’s not a “change”. The list of approved insurers is at the OIC site, linked to previously; not all the insurers (something like 20 or 25 in total, IIRC) are exclusively “Thai” insurers.

          If you “cannot find it” because you haven’t read the link and the OIC site, again that’s up to you.

          “I did find that the OIC will only allow insurance companies they approve to provide insurance, and I am sure Thais will act as normal and exclude foreign competition.”

          Read the list of “insurance companies they approve” and you may be rather better informed.

          “I think you are confused. If an expat residing in Thailand has foreign company insurance, the IOC will accept that, but not for visitors.”

          Expats “residing in Thailand” don’t need “foreign company insurance” with the exception of certain visa categories. Any suggestion they do is incorrect. Again, you can read the list of OIC approved insurance companies for visitors yourself.

          Criticising just for the sake of it is just tedious, particularly when a lot of what you say about Thailand is factually untrue so completely unjustified.

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    SG666

    Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 9:48 am

    To be honest I would never ever in my wildest dreams think about a treatment in a governmental Thai Hospital anyway as they are simply substandard 3rd world clasd crap. Private Hospitals are not much better though, you only pay more and they look nicer.

    What is astonishing is the fact that foreigners anyway can only enter LOS with a valid covid insurance these days so this announcement is complete meaningless. It only serves the Thai anti foreigner sentiments.

    9 month more to go, than we are out here for good.

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      Johnny Rambo

      Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 11:21 am

      Wait, there are hospitals in Thailand ?

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      Issan John

      Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 2:01 pm

      “What is astonishing is the fact that foreigners anyway can only enter LOS with a valid covid insurance these days so this announcement is complete meaningless.”

      … just as Thais visiting most of Europe need “valid covid insurance” too …

      … and why is his announcement “meaningless”? He’s confirming the policy – if he didn’t, he’d be liable to be criticised for not telling foreigners instead!

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        Patrick

        Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 8:06 pm

        Does any insurance work for Thailand? Or only the “carefully” selected ones? The rules are quite vague as usual. Cause my insurance has covid coverage and I trust it more than any of these specific covid ones which do not even cover ICU wth!. A joke? Its all bs anyway. No one is coming except desperate ones (who aint tourists). Break down the industry. Head in sand situation is going on and on. The world has gone mad, not only Thailand.

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          Issan John

          Monday, November 2, 2020 at 7:53 pm

          God almighty.

          The rules aren’t “vague” at all, and if some comments here weren’t deliberatley muddying the waters with completely spurious and wrong information things would be clear.

          You need approved insurance so that it can be verified. Yopurs may be on the list, it may not. The list of approved insurers is at the OIC website, as well as details of the on-line policy available which is an option. AN OPTION.

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        Michael

        Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 8:49 pm

        “… just as Thais visiting most of Europe need “valid covid insurance” too …”

        I never heard about Covid insurance. Just normal health insurance is enough because Covid is just a disease that is covered by health insurance. Only Thailand made something special for this, to make things look more interesting.

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          Issan John

          Monday, November 2, 2020 at 8:03 pm

          Covid is covered by some international insurers, not others which have made exclusions for new policies. Just because you’ve “never heard about Covid insurance” doesn’t mean it isn’t widely available.

          … and it’s NOT “only Thailand” – plenty of other countries require specific Covid insurance, from Costa Rica to Cambodia to Tahiti and the UAE.

          Thaland, in many ways, requires LESS than many countries including the EU / Schengen countries, as the insurance requirement is limited rather than all-inclusive, as THEY now require but Thailand DOESN’T.

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        rr

        Monday, November 2, 2020 at 4:44 pm

        schengen visas needs to be backed with a standard medical insurance covering 30.000 euro at least. no special covid stuff or scams. and these insurances are relatively cheap, not scams. you do not know how it works here, so do not provide false infos.

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          Issan John

          Monday, November 2, 2020 at 8:08 pm

          The only “false information” here is from others.

          As above, Thailand ONLY requires insurance for Covid-19, NOT full international medical insurance.

          The requirement is for LESS than for schengen visas, so the only “false information” I have given was to suggest it was the same when it’s actually LESS!

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    albertone

    Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 10:10 am

    I’m very sorry for many Thai people, but they will receive soon what they deserve: the tourism won’t ever recovery to the level pre Covid and in the next 2 year they will experience a very very big crisis and a very very sad time. Som nam nà.

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      Issan John

      Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 1:44 pm

      Nothing, fortuantely, like the “very very big crisis” that Europe is experiencing already, nor at the same cost to the economy which Thailand could never afford to pay.

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        rr

        Monday, November 2, 2020 at 4:46 pm

        europe has strong economy resources and management, we can face easily the ongoing crisis. surely not like in thailand. if you have data, share. otherwise, shut up.

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          Issan John

          Monday, November 2, 2020 at 8:17 pm

          “easily” ?

          Really?

          Only if Europe gets even further into debt, which Thailand neither wants to nor needs to. Europe has stuffed up and got it wrong, with countries going into yet another period of lockdown from one to six months, while Thailand and others such as Taiwan have shown the way and got it right, and as a consequence life here is carrying on largely unaffected and as normal.

          Some sectors of the Thai economy, particularly international tourism, will suffer but at least Thailand and the Thai people don’t have to suffer as the West is.

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        Don R

        Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 1:42 pm

        People in their 80s dying of the flu doesn’t strike me as a “crisis”. It sounds fairly normal. The real crisis is the hysteria, and the risk that it may endure and creep into many other aspects of life. A few have already suggested we implement these insane policies for the regular flu season. If they get their way, you can kiss your grandchildren’s future good bye.

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    James

    Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 10:28 am

    Those with no symptoms but who tested positive would have to stay in hospital for ten days after their positive test.

    Why do they need hospital treatment for no symptoms, isn’t that the concept of quarantine?
    Just another scam like the 4000 b a night asq for hotel rooms that normally cost 2000 a night
    #land of scams

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      TS

      Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 11:52 am

      Next they’ll declare that foreigners can’t use Thai hospitals.
      Thanks,Thai gov, your humanity and sympathy in these tough times is touching. And you’re more than eager to accept the world’s help when YOU need it aren’t you?

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      JKU

      Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 12:16 pm

      Excellent point. And who can trust the Thais not to find false positives in asymptomatic people if they’re receiving kickbacks from private hospitals who make big money from hapless tourists.

      Even the Chinese might balk at this one …

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        SG666

        Monday, November 2, 2020 at 9:49 am

        Thats exactly how it works in LOS. I remember admitting my son to a private hospital in Phuket as he had some high fever. As soon as the hospital staff figured out that we had a top notch insurance they put him in a 2 room suite. The bill was around 40.000thb for 1 night, some drips and bit antibiotika. They try to take advantage of anything and everybody if they can. They can not be trusted at all.

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      Issan John

      Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 1:49 pm

      No, the “concept of quarantine” is to isolate everyone to a certain level, then for those who test positive and are infectious (regardless of symptoms) to be isolated to an increased level in hospital.

      That applies in the West, where it’s standard practice with ASQs, as well as in Thailand.

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        42nd Battalion

        Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 5:16 pm

        It is extremely rare for a asymptomatic person to be infectious. Tell me I’m wrong, spin me a giant pile, please

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        Willem

        Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 6:20 pm

        It doesnt applies to the west. No one who is tested positive is admitted to a hospital. Only who has severe symptoms. 99% of all who test positive will have no or only mild symptoms.

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          Issan John

          Monday, November 2, 2020 at 7:25 pm

          Not correct. Those who are already quarantined in an ASQ who then test positive are generally then quarantined in hospital.

          I think we may be talking at cross purposes, as what you say is correct for those who self-quarantine, not generally for those in ASQs.

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        Michael

        Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 8:53 pm

        “That applies in the West, where it’s standard practice with ASQs”

        It doesn’t. In most countries in western Europe you have to quarantine yourself. Never heard about a system where you have to quarantine in a hotel, and when found positive you have to move to a hospital when having no symptoms. That is only in Thailand as far as I know.

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          Issan John

          Monday, November 2, 2020 at 8:47 pm

          God almighty.

          What part of “with ASQs” don’t you understand?

          It DOESN’T apply in those countries in western Europe where you self quarantine but it DOES in those WITH ASQs

          Plenty of Western countries use ASQs, as the whole concept of self-quarantine doesn’t work which is why western Europe is in the state it’s in while ASEAN and many other countries with ASQs (New Zealand and Australia amongst them) are managing to control those arriving successfully.

          It is NOT “only in Thailand”, whether you’re aware of it or not.

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        rr

        Monday, November 2, 2020 at 4:49 pm

        asqs do not exist in europe. people isolate themselves at home, not in overpriced hotels, because we know that is unsafe concentrating potential clusters in a small area, as covid does. sars did not teach you anything.

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          Issan John

          Monday, November 2, 2020 at 8:56 pm

          “the West” isn’t only Western Europe.

          But no, ASQs “do not exist in Europe” because it’s “unsafe” but because the numbers make it impossible.

          Far from it being “unsafe”, it’s the only successful way of quarantining arrivals, which is why it’s used in ALL countries that have controlled their arrivals successfully, such as Thailand, Taiwan, Cambodia, Vietnam, New Zealand and Australia (who left it a little late).

          The West, sadly, left it too late and has since refused to learn – the deaths, the hospitalizations and the lockdowns speak for themselves.

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      Issan John

      Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 1:54 pm

      … and charging extra for ASQ quarantine isn’t a “scam” as the extra charge is necessary to cover the extra costs of additional cleaning, staff PPE, and security / supervision.

      Without that additional charge it would be impossible for the hotels to meet the extra ASQ requirements, which is why it’s applied in the west exactly as it is in Thailand.

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        nissan tom

        Monday, November 2, 2020 at 5:04 pm

        a bunch of false stuff. first, ppe and alcohol solutions are not expensive even here in europe, and it does not justify the price doubling. second, here in europe we do not overcharge for extra cleaning, simply because it is a moral duty to do so, no need to justify those extra couple euros with scams like there. what it is incredible is the amount of fakeness you throw here. you do not know how it works here, you do not even know how it works there, so please make a favor to all and refrain from posting absurdities.

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          Issan John

          Monday, November 2, 2020 at 9:05 pm

          Rubbish. The cost isn’t just “ppe and alcohol solutions”. To be effective it has to include constant cleaning and re-cleaning, as well as additional security and supervision which means extra staff.

          There “in europe” you “do not overcharge for extra cleaning”, not because its “a moral duty to do so” (I feel rather sorry for any staff unfortunate enough to work for you, who would probably prefer to be paid for the extra work) but because in western europe you don’t have ASQs so it doesn’t apply.

          Thailand, and many ASEAN countries and a few Western ones, got it right. The West got it wrong. It’s rather sad that the West can’t learn from that and prefers to see thousands die, hundreds of thousands lose their livelihoods, and millions be locked down, but given some of the bigotry and plain stupidity here it’s no surprise.

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    Mike Frenchie

    Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 11:49 am

    So Thais should be denied access to our medical system in Europe (usually heavily subsidised)… that would be fair? Saying that, the insurance makes it a ‘no problem’. We Europeans should stop providing things for free to people not reciprocating.

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      JKU

      Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 12:20 pm

      Dream on … Europe will do nothing.

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      Issan John

      Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 1:57 pm

      You “Europeans” (and you Brits, Americans, etc) DON’T “provide things for free”!!!

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        Mike Frenchie

        Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 8:28 pm

        Issan John, we do… if you are Thai and in troubles in front of a French public hospital, you will be taken care.

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          Issan John

          Monday, November 2, 2020 at 9:21 pm

          As you would be in Thailand, to my certain knowledge and from personal experience … and then, as a visitor, once you’ve been “taken care” you’ll be asked to pay, whether in Thailand or France.

          Generally, though, unless you have medical insurance or an EHIC, you’re not eligible for free medical treatment as a tourist in Europe, including France, and even for long term visitors with PUMA the benefits are capped.

          … and as one of the schengen countries, France also currently requires mandatory health insurance for tourists without an EHIC.

          … and in England, you’ll be charged 150% of the NHS costs, unless you’re resident in the UK, even if you’re British.

          You may not like it, but those ARE the facts and are VERY easily verifiable.

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        Wayno

        Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 8:52 pm

        The more of your posts i read, the more i realise what an uneducated oaf you truly are

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    lou

    Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 12:35 pm

    OK, OK, its clear, they want investors out and visitors not coming in, lets see what will happen when all back to factories and agriculture fields instead of low paid immigrants , but I am afraid that the Thai rate will prevent export as well, so better have a beer and eat rice

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    Ryan Lih

    Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 12:51 pm

    There’s a probability of corruption here with regards to the PCR test cuz they can come back and say “positive”. They’ll just pick 5 out of 20 “farang” tourists. This is definitely bad image for the future just to make a few bucks.

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      Andrew

      Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 4:13 pm

      Exactly. Like in Cambodia. Think of this. You arrived at Phnom Penh airport. They take that swab of everyone on the plane and sent to Pasteur Institute for testing. Foreigners taken to the most expensive hotels in PP where they pay +$300 for 2 nights! waiting for the results. Now, Interesting Part/Theory. If nobody is positive they make just $300-400 (hotel, test) out of every foreigner. Silly. Pasteur I. and Khmer-Soviet Friendship hospital gets $10,000,. $20,000 or whatever… Why, what for? Well Pasteur I. issue (even just one) ‘certificate’ that Passenger X has the virus. Nobody can check if true or not. You can’t dispute it in any way. You and everyone else on that plane must accept it. FULL STOP. So, the sick person goes to hospital, where he will be paying $200+/day for treatment (maybe just for paracetamol) and all the rest passengers (100 or 200) taken to quarantine, Cambodians free, foreigners each of them pays $1000+ and the government gets hundreds of thousands of $$ per…plane! You may say ‘aahh I don’t think they can do that’. Well, according to Corruption Perception Index, Cambodia is #162 out of 179 on the list of Corrupt Countries in 2020. Thailand? 101

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        Issan John

        Monday, November 2, 2020 at 9:25 pm

        Correct.

        At last, someone knows what they’re talking about.

        To be fair to Cambodia, though, they make that system very clear … and they’re not currently letting in any tourists, etc, etc

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    preesy chepuce

    Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 1:02 pm

    So being pro-economy makes you hawk now, and by implication, pro-lockdown makes you a dove?
    This seems a bit Orwellian… wanting to stop the madness and reboot the economy and personal liberty seems to be doubleplusungoodthink. Western hospitals aren’t all perfect either btw…

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    Issan John

    Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 1:42 pm

    Not a criticism of the Thaiger as it’s what the source (Siam Rath) says as do other media headlines, but it’s worth pointing out that the headline here that “Foreigners who test positive for C19 in Thailand won’t be able to use the public health system” is actually incorrect if read in isolation.

    To quote the detail of the Thaiger article: “In another effort to assuage Thai fears, a doctor at the infectious disease department has stated that any foreigner found to be infected with Covid-19, while in alternative state quarantine, would be taken to a partner hospital in the private sector, not a Thai public hospital.”

    According to a number of statements going back for several months, there are no restrictions on foreigners already here using Thai government hospitals for Covid-19 or any other reason.

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      TS

      Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 5:13 pm

      Nope, not yet

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    Andrew

    Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 3:57 pm

    To Ryan Lih: Exactly! Like in Cambodia. Think of this. You arrived at Phnom Penh airport. They take that swab of everyone on the plane and sent to Pasteur Institute for testing. Foreigners are taken to the most expensive hotels ($300+) in PP to wait 2 nights! for the results. Now, Interesting Part/Theory. If nobody is positive they make just $300-400 (hotel, test) out of every person. Silly. Pasteur I. and Khmer-Soviet Friendship hospital gets $10,000,. $20,000 or whatever… Why, what for? Well Pasteur I. issues (even just one) ‘certificate’ that Passenger X has the virus. Nobody can check if true or not. You can’t dispute it in any way. You and everyone else on that plane must accept it. FULL STOP. So, the sick person goes to hospital, where he will be paying $200+/day for treatment (maybe just for paracetamol) and all the rest passengers (100 or 200) taken to quarantine, Cambodians free and foreigners pay $1000+ and the government gets hundreds of thousands of $$ per…plane! You may say ‘aahh I don’t think they can do that’. Well, according to Corruption Perception Index, Cambodia is #162 out of 179 on the list of Corrupt Countries in 2020. Thailand? 101.

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    mike

    Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 4:49 pm

    I don’t like government hospitals in Thailand anyway. There are always too many stray dogs lying around. It’s disgusting.

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    Jack

    Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 5:24 pm

    I don’t understand the hate here. In my experience, both private and govt hospitals do a good job. I recently stayed with a friend in a govt hospital to get her eppendix removed in emergency surgery. Everything went well. My experience in private hospitals, has been nothing but mind blowing compared to the crap I’ve encountered in the states. Fast, cheap, clean, etc etc.

    Do your part and stay healthy and you shouldn’t ever really need them for much more than a bad cut, food poisoning, etc.

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      Issan John

      Monday, November 2, 2020 at 9:36 pm

      It’s called sour grapes.

      Thailand (as well as other “third world” countries like Cambodia, Vietnam and Taiwan)have done a FANTASTIC job protecting their people from Covid-19 – not just from deaths, but from hospitalizations and lengthy draconian lockdowns, and their economies (except for the tourism industry, which is inevitable given the alternative).

      On the other hand, the West, particularly western Europe, has done an APPALLING job, with the consequent tens of thousands of deaths, overflowing hospitals, lengthy extensive lockdowns, and economies that are going deeper and deeper into billions of $s in debt.

      Westerners, particularly those who like to think they’re superior, don’t like that.

      It’s sad, but that’s how it is.

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    Jack Sombra

    Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 5:36 pm

    If was public hospitals would be furious, policy denies them customers who are guaranteed to be carrying 100k insurance and funneling money to private buisnesses instead. Anutin strikes again.

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    Khaja

    Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 6:06 pm

    Please stop this puppet show Thailand

    These hilarious plans that you are coming up with after every few days are just mockery of your own image.

    If You want to save economy than make reasonable plans to open up borders to tourist. But in that process you will have to take corona virus.

    But if you think otherwise then shut the border for tourism.

    Just announce that border will be closed for tourism until next 6 months. like Malaysia, Vietnam, Indonesia, Bali, Philippine did.

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    Lily

    Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 12:53 am

    In some Europa countries your normal health insurance covers the cost for hospitals during your stay abroad. In most cases they cover everything on the same basis as your home country. Unless it’s more expensive then your home country. In my case is Thailand and most countries are cheaper in health cost,so they cover everything and Switzerland and USA is more expensive and then we have to pay the difference in cost.

    Besides that, most travel insurance do cover other unexpected holiday cost due to sickness, etc.

    So, why do we need an extra insurance? Like every year, we would like to come for three months, I won’t mind 10 days of quarantine in a hotel (not in my room) of my choice. And certainly not in Phuket or Koh Samui. Maybe better go to Vietnam, it looks easier to go to there.

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    Tony T

    Friday, November 6, 2020 at 2:26 am

    Is this website called “Isaan John”? The most negative person I have ever come across on this site. Time to put out the trash so someone else can make a comment…

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    Linson Alfred

    Monday, November 23, 2020 at 10:55 am

    My wife have admitted after testing covid positive on 5th day while she was staying at hotel. And she has moved to hospital. Hospital saying she need to stay at hospital for 14 days. They are saying that it is Thai rule. But my wife don’t have any symptoms now.

    So can you share from where you got the information like after 10days they can be discharged?

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The Kolour Beachside Festival was held April 2 and 3 with events at Café Del Mar Phuket in Kamala, and Shelter Phuket Dance and Night Club and Illuzion Nightclub, both in Patong. Before the festival, Phuket had gone more than a hundred days without any new Covid-19 infections, but by April 7 the Phuket provincial Public Health office announced 8 new infections, half of which had been at the Kolour parties. In the following weeks, officials plead for attendees to be tested as infections spread.

Charges were delayed in being filed to the Phuket Public Prosecutor’s office as a special investigation committee was ordered to be created to oversee the investigation at the request of Region 8’s Police Commander. That committee brought together officials from various law enforcement in the area including the Patong Police, Kamala Police, Phuket Provincial Police, and the Region 8 Police to investigate the Kolour event before anyone was charged.

The manager of Café Del Mar, along with the managing director and the manager of Shelter and Illuzion, which are under the same management team, will be charged for the Kolour festival violating Thailand’s Emergency Decree that was declared to help protect the country from Covid-19 outbreaks. A breach of the Emergency Decree can be held liable for up to 40,000 Baht and 2 years in jail under Section 9 of the Decree.

The latter 2 are also facing charges of operating an unlicensed entertainment venue. This carries the possibility of another year in prison and a fine of up to 60,000 baht, in accordance with Thai Law under Section 26 of the Entertainment Place Act.

SOURCE: The Phuket News

 

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Covid-19 patients with high blood pressure have the highest risk of death followed by patients infected with the coronavirus who underlying conditions of diabetes or high cholesterol, according to data from Thailand’s Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration.

Since the start of the pandemic last year, the CCSA has reported 486 coronavirus-related deaths. Out of those fatalities, 392 were reported after April 1. Using data from the recent wave of infections, the CCSA found that those infected with Covid-19 who also have high blood pressure are at the most at risk of death, followed by those who are diabetic and those who have high cholesterol.

Others who are at risk of severe infection or death if infected with Covid-19 include those with chronic kidney disease, heart disease, obesity or lung disease.

Most of the deaths since April 1 have been in Bangkok, making up 46% of the death count in the recent wave, followed and provinces just outside the capital. Most patients who died while infected with Covid-19 have been over 60 years old with underlying health conditions. Several young adults, in their 20s and 30s, who died while infected with Covid-19, had underlying conditions of diabetes and obesity.

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Human Right Watch calls for Thailand to immediately act on Covid-19 outbreaks at prisons

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In response to the recent Covid-19 outbreaks in Thailand prisons, the Human Rights Watch issued a statement saying Thai authorities need to take immediate steps to tackle overcrowding in prisons and release inmates that do not pose a serious risk to the public. The organisation also notes that under international human rights law, the government must provide equal and accessible health care to the inmates, adding that Thailand must act quickly to ensure the infected prisoners are properly treated.

Yesterday, Thailand’s Department of Corrections reported 2,835 inmates at 2 Bangkok prisons tested positive for Covid-19, adding to the hundreds of cases at prisons in Chiang Mai and in the southern province Narathiwat by the Malaysia border. Out of the new cases, 1,795 at Bangkok Remand Prison, making up more than half the prison population. The other 1,040 infections are inmates at the Central Women’s Correctional Institution.

HRW says those held in Thailand’s overcrowded prisons are at “grave risk” of Covid-19. After the outbreak in Narathiwat in early April, prison visits were suspended to prevent the spread of Covid-19. HRW Asia director Brad Adams says authorities had been warned about the situation.

“Many people warned the Thai authorities that they needed to act proactively to avoid such a situation, but it seems they got caught sleeping at the switch.”

Under international law, the Thai government is obligated to provide adequate healthcare to prisoners, especially during the Covid-19 pandemic, Brad says. He adds that to prevent the spread of Covid-19, some prisoners should be released to reduce overcrowding and congestion.

“Besides providing health care and virus testing, the authorities should reduce the detainee population through the supervised release of those held on politically motivated charges or for minor offences, or who face greater risk from underlying health conditions.”

HRW says Thailand should take immediate steps to tackle the longstanding problem of overcrowding in prisons and consider the supervised release of inmates who at a high risk of severe infection if they were to contract Covid-19. Those charged with minor offences or who are in pre-trial detention for minor, nonviolent crimes should also be considered for release, HRW says.

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