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A follow up to yesterday’s sad incident with a Thai protester ending up head-butting a 52 year old Russian man who was watching a small protest on the Jomtien foreshore with his 10 year old daughter and Thai wife. The incident happened on Monday evening at the Dongtan Curve.

The protester, Narathiwat “Ken” Khamma, was arrested and jailed for the assault. He was speaking to the small audience from a small stage along the foreshore walk. His stance was the same as the larger protests in Bangkok calling for the resignation of the Thai PM and changes to the country’s constitution. According to Thai Residents, “Ken” was speaking in both English and Thai, appealing to the few foreigners that had stopped to watch as well.

The Russian man, named as Vladislav Timokin. The two men exchanged comments and Vladislav ended up being head-butted. He remained conscious but showed the bystanders his bloodied nose.

Sanook.com spoke to Ken who claims that the Russian man walked into the protest and started watching. At some stage there was a conversation about what the protest was about but it descended into a slanging match and, later, a physical confrontation. According to Ken, the Russian claimed that the protesters joining in the battle “were all trash”. He claims statements were made by Vladislav that the “democracy activists were pulling down Pattaya and the country”. According to Ken’s statement to Sanook, the Russian also said the protesters “were the reason why Thailand’s economy is falling down”.

This explanation from Ken wasn’t captured in the original Pattaya News video. Police attending the event didn’t intervene in the escalating situation.

The taller Thai protester then ‘snapped’ at some stage and started yelling expletives at the Russian… “why the f**k you live in Thailand?”, “you can go f**k yourself”.

Ken was escorted to the Pattaya Beach Soi 9 police station, questioned and jailed over the incident. Free People’s Group protestors arrived at the station alter demanding the release of Ken but police insisted the assault was too serious and would be investigated further. Hours later police set a 10,000 baht bail and Ken was allowed to leave, pending a future court appearance.

The Russian was sent to a hospital for treatment to his bloodied forehead and nose. Police have been speaking to the man this morning as they gather evidence and decide the charges to be laid against the aggressor.

Most comments from the online world have mostly sided with the Russian man, saying that no matter what had been said, the display of violence in front of his young daughter and wife, was uncalled-for.

Lars – This Thai guy just made sure even less foreigners will choose Thailand for holiday in the future.

Jir –Rule# 1 – Foreigners should never participate or spectate in any civil unrest, even more important when with children. The lady giving the child the finger is a massive POS! Without tourist/expat dollars, Thailand would not be what it is today. The Thai guy is just a racist

Murray – They don’t want you there I’ve been going to Pattaya for fifty years and now I notice in the last 5 years there attitude towards falangs. Is very nasty not all but more as each year goes by

Michael – Meanwhile in Pattaya- another great promotion video from the Land of smile

Rey – Weak piece of shit in front of the daughter shows how much respect the guy has

Mark – Stay clear from protest areas like your embassy warned you to. Dont act like a hero regardless how brave you think you are.

You can watch the full exchange from The Pattaya News HERE.

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    Jason V Goodwin

    November 10, 2020 at 11:39 am

    I’ve seen the video a few times. I’m fairly sure the Russian never said any of these things. He’s 52. He’s smart enough not to piss off a guy half his age and twice his size. Vietnam my friends. I’ve had the Same experience as the Russian a few time in the land of smiles. Thai’s are insane.

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      The Thaiger & The Nation

      November 10, 2020 at 11:42 am

      As mentioned in the story, the video rolled after a lot of the earlier conversation.

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      Issan John

      November 10, 2020 at 12:42 pm

      Watch it more carefully. You can very clearly hear him saying “ALL YOU CAN DO IS TALK” to Kane, while waving his hand in front of his mouth, at the 2min 20-15 second point.

      If you say that to sopmeone you’re asking for a fight – he thought he could get away with it because he’s a farang, but a lot of Thais have simnply had enough.

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        RA

        November 11, 2020 at 8:33 am

        Is anyone else growing tired of Issan John’s subservient attitude and comments?

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    sam thompson

    November 10, 2020 at 11:44 am

    Not only is Ken a coward but he is backing up his violent actions with a story and he has no evidence,only his word. Who is going to accept the word of a thug and a bully. It is also worth mentioning the bevaiour of that “lady” who was right in the face of the little girl and giving her the middle finger. This is absolutely disgraceful and unacceptable and that person should also be prosecuted.

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      Ynwaps

      November 10, 2020 at 12:40 pm

      Yeah he made it worse for him by not showing any remorse. That should make it easier for prosecutors. A protestor like him will probably get the maximum sentence for assaulting (a foreigner).

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        Issan John

        November 10, 2020 at 12:48 pm

        You have no idea if he showed any remorse or not, and neither have I. He was led away, so NOBODY commenting here knows.

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          Stefan Svensson

          November 10, 2020 at 6:06 pm

          Then you can stop comment too

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      Issan John

      November 10, 2020 at 12:46 pm

      The evidence is actually on the video – you don’t say “ALL YOU CAN DO IS TALK” to someone unless you’re deliberately trying to get a reaction.

      Yes, the finger-waver was wrong, but so was everyone involved INCLUDING Vladimir – only a coward behaves like that while expecting having his daughter therewould enable him to get away with it.

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        Glen Naga

        November 11, 2020 at 4:18 am

        John, get a grip and stop being a thai apologist. It doesn’t integrate you with the culture anymore. “Vladmir” is that his name or you just being a fool? I think the latter. “Issan John” mate how desperate are you to seem thai? It’s embarrasing.

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      Eddy

      November 11, 2020 at 7:18 am

      We foreigners are here as guest of Thailand. We should not involve ourselves in local politics. IMHO, the Russian provoked the situation by involving himself. As with children, foreigners should be seen and not heard when it comes to politics.

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    SG666

    November 10, 2020 at 11:57 am

    So as a result of running out of arguments the Thai Guy decided to headbutt his opponent.

    The Thai guy is nothing else than POS and a brilliant example for Thai premature attitude and a great advertisement for Land of scam.

    I would like to see this Thai thug in a one on one against a guy of his size in a ring 5×5. But I am sure he wouldnt even show up.

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      Issan John

      November 10, 2020 at 12:50 pm

      No, he “decided to headbutt his opponent” when the guy taunted him by waving his hand in fron of his mourth and saying “ALL YOU CAN DO IS TALK”.

      That doesn’t excuse it in any way, but at least get the sequence of events right when there’s a video of it!

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    Stuart Somsak

    November 10, 2020 at 12:03 pm

    So no apology from “Ken”… that says a lot…

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    Ryan Lih

    November 10, 2020 at 12:06 pm

    Not siding anyone but Thais would not usually get pissed off if no words were exchanged. More evidence is needed on how it started. However, the end result of the Thai man head butting the farang must be met with punishable offence.

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      The Thaiger & The Nation

      November 10, 2020 at 12:09 pm

      We’ve tried to provide what we know of the Thai man’s side of the story.

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      Fabian

      November 10, 2020 at 12:52 pm

      We probably will never know for sure what really happened but the Thai guy confirms my theory of what the Russian guy kind of said.

      So both Ken and Vladislav seemed to have been acting like immature assholes. That’s life, get over it.

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        Fabian

        November 10, 2020 at 1:43 pm

        Ah Ryan Lih.. by accident my message ended up as a reply to you but it was just meant as a general reply 🙂

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          Ryan Lih

          November 11, 2020 at 10:08 am

          No harm done Fabian. Carry on.

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          Tracey

          November 20, 2020 at 8:42 am

          It’s a sad moment to thai people as they attacked a expat . Without the money of foreign tourist thailand will be finished. Wake up thailand and behave like matured countries . Violence will get you nowhere . If Russians attack Thailand then Thailand will be nowhere in the map.

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    Toby Andrews

    November 10, 2020 at 12:14 pm

    The Russian should have made no comment whatsoever.
    He made some comments, whether good or bad it does not matter.
    This is between the protesters and the government.
    I support the protesters, but would certainly not go out into the street telling Thais that I do.
    The West allows foreigners to voice their opinion in public, but we have a proper democracy.
    A Thai seems to adopt democracy only when it suits him or her personally.
    Otherwise democracy is ignored.
    There are no free speech rights in Thailand, especially for a foreigner.
    I will watch with interest to see what punishment the Thai receives – I doubt it will be much.

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    Leo Z

    November 10, 2020 at 12:19 pm

    It’s ironic that these Thai protesters “need” the foreigners on their side, way more than the other side. Definitely not a way to get them on board. Probably a moron protesting for the sake of protest.
    Now, for me the bigger story here, and in similar incidents, is what would happen to a European or American or Australian for headbutting a Thai immigrant overseas who disagreed with him. Lose job in a matter of hours? Paraded as a racist and outcast for days on all media and social media?

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      Issan John

      November 10, 2020 at 1:14 pm

      This wasn’t an equivalent case of “a European or American or Australian … headbutting a Thai immigrant overseas who disagreed with him.”

      That wasn’t remotely what happened.

      Anyway, get real.

      If a Thai tourist went to a demonstration in Europe, America or Australia (or Russia) where he didn’t speak the language or understand the culture and he started to heckle the protesters and to call them terrorists, then he refused to leave when the local security tried to usher him gently away, and he then taunted one of them by saying to his face “ALL YOU CAN DO IS TALK” while waving his hand in front of his mouth, he’d be more likely to leave on a stretcher than with just a bloodied nose.

      Kane was totally out of order, not only with the headbutt but when he called Vladimir’s wife “Northern pussy”, and the Thai media (and particularly Thai social media) reflect that. So was the woman giving them the finger, particularly to the young girl. … but if you don’t speak the language or understand the culture you don’t stop at a political demo and heckle the speakers.

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        Glen Naga

        November 11, 2020 at 4:23 am

        Wrong again “issan John” lol. How hard are you trying to be thai? There were many foreigners there that night, watching. Yes, as a foreigner you can go to a protest in the west, heckle them and not expect to get headbutted. Only one person here broke the law. The Thai. He would be perfectly fine to do that in any other western country, because thats free speech, for all. Not just for the locals. You’re an emabarrasment to your country and the how you apologise for this guy won’t make the thai’s like you any more or less than they do “Issan John” LOL. Saying he would leave on a stretcher in the west is just a flat lie.

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        Kim

        November 15, 2020 at 9:56 am

        You are simply a fool Isaan John. It’s clear the buffalo protestors wanted to attract the attention of foreigners which is why is obnoxious protest leader and his deranged buffalo gf spoke in English during the protest and also had several cardboards written in English. How can you compare your example; calling people terrorists versus allegedly saying what the ruski said? If those words, allegedly voiced by the ruski can trigger your short temper and subsequently head butt another person because of that you are simply a unintelligent and very nasty individual.

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    Happy Tourist

    November 10, 2020 at 12:50 pm

    Yes, I see the peaceful protesters who demonstrate for peace, freedom and free speech.

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    Issan John

    November 10, 2020 at 12:58 pm

    According to friends of mine in Pattaya the disagreement started when Vladimir went to the side of the stage and started to argue with the protest speakers who were off-stage, including Kane, calling them “communists”. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

    A classic example of why foreigners should NEVER get involved in this sort of debate, above all when they don’t understand that something they say may have a totally different significance in another culture.

    To a Russian, the term “communist” means no more than calling an American a Republican or a Democrat, while to a Thai it has a totally different connotation and is directly associated with armed rebellion, terrorists and the Khmer Rouge.

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      Glen Naga

      November 11, 2020 at 4:24 am

      LOL I’m sure the guy headbutting was thinking of the Khmer Rouge hahahaha. I can’t stop laughing at your comments man. Grow a spine and stop being so damn soft.

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    xaos

    November 10, 2020 at 1:44 pm

    as bad as it is, i side with thai dude, idiot ruskie should not pull thier strings, this ppl are on the edge, as well he wonder around at 2am with kid and argue with protesters, very inresponsible, it will teach him a lesson, sad on kid yes, but daddy was an idiot.

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      Glen Naga

      November 11, 2020 at 4:25 am

      6pm. Lol. More thai apologists who think thai women will sleep with them easier if they bow to everything a thai says or does. Weak weak human.

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    gosport

    November 10, 2020 at 2:24 pm

    It is a botched cultural exchange leading to the head butting accident.

    It is better to have water cannon exchange.

    Stay away from politics in any foreign country unless you are in front of computer.

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    Denis

    November 10, 2020 at 4:37 pm

    I love the humor of the situation.

    The Thai protestor comes to praise democracy and non-violence, in front of a sparse audience. And now at the slightest remark, finding himself in need of argument, he does not know what to answer. Supreme horror: He lost his face in public … Then, the old local reflex resurfaces: He strikes …
    Great proof of openness and democracy!

    But this Russian man forgot two of the basic rules that an expat in Thailand must follow:
    1) Don’t get involved in the country’s political stories
    2) Never make a Thai lose face

    In Thailand, foreigners are accepted under certain conditions. When we come, we know it. You can’t have the butter, the butter money, and the creamer as a bonus.

    Me, I just appreciate what the country offers me: Living here with my wife, the good climate, good food and sabai sabai life. I’m not trying to tell Thais what to do, which policy is best, or anything else. I adapt, I respect the rules and, thus, I live without problems.

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      Fabian

      November 10, 2020 at 5:58 pm

      I’m curious how you would react if someone from another country comes to your country and calls your wife a whore in front of your face and your whole family a bunch of retarded losers. I’m curious if you would remain calm and ignore this person.

      There are a lot of saints on here, commenting conveniently behind their screens. But the truth is lots of people can’t handle this kind of humiliating talk. And I doubt all of the people here criticizing the Thai guy would.

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        Kim

        November 17, 2020 at 7:12 am

        Fabian, Indeed, there are plenty of saints here which respect words rather than violence. Your kind obviously finds whatever excuse to resort to violence which evidence how vicious and simpleminded you and your kind are. Where is the evidence that the ruski voiced those alleged profanities? You dont really add any constructive input to this thread. Regardless of what the ruski said, unless he was threatening to kill the buffalo, violence is not the way to go. Educated individuals have progressed from the Stone Age…..

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      Happy Tourist

      November 11, 2020 at 2:14 am

      Not to forget: they “fight” or protest for free speech. Now, a russian farang do speak free his opinion and gets his nose broken from themselves so called “free speech fighters”. Gaeng maak leu.

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    Issan John

    November 10, 2020 at 4:55 pm

    Except that even going by the video, which doesn’t tell the whole story, that isn’t remotely what happened.

    Why anyone would lie about it unashamedly when there’s a video of at least that part is completely beyond me.

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    HENRY HARRIS

    November 10, 2020 at 5:45 pm

    I was always told when going to Asia, to stay away from demonstrations and situations where a crowd may get out of control, like road accidents, fights etc. I was told that SE Asians are more likely to go off their heads and lose control, and as foreigners we should just walk on and get out of the way. Although this Russian guy didnt do anything wrong, he should not have been there as a spectator – its not a game show.

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      Glen Naga

      November 11, 2020 at 4:28 am

      It’s exactly the same when a woman get’s sexually assaulted and some guy says “well she shouldn’t have been wearing a short skirt in the street”. You’re clueless lol. Thai is still attracting the cream of the crop foreigners I see hahah

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      7.62mm of darwin

      November 11, 2020 at 11:00 am

      In short….keep your NOSE out of other peoples business…pun intended

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    Dima

    November 11, 2020 at 5:45 am

    I’m Russian and I hungry percent approve of the headbutt…foreigners should mind their own goddamn business in a different country.

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    just me

    November 11, 2020 at 6:31 am

    Passions always run hot in the young even on a regular day. Now this young man has been working to change a government listening to speeches of how evil it is, how it takes advantage of all the people, how they must be deposed. To bring his passion out to make him a fitting freedom fighter ready to do battle. Now he is speaking to a small crowed that doesn’t seem to be thrilled about what he is selling. Even though he speaks with passion, with brilliant arguments but they just don’t see the righteousness of his cause no matter how he pleads with them. After all it is for their own good his temper get up because they don’t see it the way he dose. Little or no provocation was needed at this point for the “incident”. It is just sad that the cause (just or not) and the young man because of just a moment of being out of control just a second and they will be saddled with this to be used as political ammunition against them. I know little of what exactly the protesters want to change or how they wish to change it but grievances should get a hearing without violence (and yes I live in the real world and know that is not likely to happen in any country but we can hope) because here in the US both sides have quit talking or listening a long time ago and IT IS NOT PRETTY TO LIVE AROUND

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    Strider

    November 11, 2020 at 8:46 am

    Anyone who has lived in the LOS for any length of time knows Thai people can go from smiles to a violent rage in a split second. Non-confrontation is a cultural thing in Thailand and Thais don’t take criticism well, especially from a non-Thai. That does not excuse Mr. Ken for his reaction or his lady friend for her rude gesture. However…if Mr. Russian has been living in the LOS long enough to spawn a 7 or 8 year old child, than he should know this and to avoid any activity that doesn’t concern him…especially politics, the Royal Family or religion. Personally I believe he got what he deserved by crossing the invisible Thai Line. He should never have placed his family in that situation. Always smile, never put on an angry face, never speak loudly and learn how to say “I’m Sorry” and “Excuse me” in Thai and Wai. After my own learning curve, it has served me well for over 25 years.

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    Alex

    November 12, 2020 at 11:23 pm

    Another day, another head butt.. If you don’t have a headache from Chang, join a protest!

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    Robert Elliot

    November 13, 2020 at 4:06 am

    Another reason Thailand is showing a preference to Chinese tourists. They mind there own business and I could never imagine getting involved in something like this.

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    Mike K

    November 13, 2020 at 10:25 pm

    After two trips to LOS, I’ll be spending my $4-5K per vacation in Mexico
    I know others who will be going elsewhere as well
    Enjoy getting a few measly yuan from your Chinese tourists, I’m done

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    7.62mm of darwin

    November 14, 2020 at 6:27 am

    MIKE K…..you seem to be on the same budget as me….the land of smiles has unfortunately turned into the land of smirks…the govt has so wrecked things that you have to be ripped off for the business people to make any profit at all…I used to visit three or four times a year and stay a month each time, as I can leave Darwin in the morning and be in Pattaya that afternoon….thats a lot of baht…Vietnam beckons

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    Mr. Expat

    November 23, 2020 at 2:13 pm

    Expats are typically stupid and should stay out off Thai affairs.

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