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ASQ + Vaccine in Thailand proposal gets the thumbs down

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A spokesperson from a Thai tourism association came up with the “cunning idea” yesterday to propose a ASQ + Vaccine package to travellers and tourists. So not only do you get your 14 day mandatory quarantine at an expensive hotel in Bangkok, the opportunity to submit copious amounts of paperwork and drill through the red tape. NOW you get a jab of Covid-19 vaccine included. All for the all time low starting price of 150,000 baht. Read the original story HERE.

Bargain!

Of course The Thaiger readers and viewers raced to congratulate the rocket scientist who came up with this brilliant piece of tourist marketing. Suffice to say, it’s dead in the water even before the ambulance arrives…

Ron Rossington
Until the ditch the 14 day quarantine and end the ineffective lockdowns, Thailand will not get the tourist numbers they are in dire need of to stabilize the economy.

k tara
Another brilliant idea for tourists which will be dead on arrival. Do these people live in reality.

rickdangr
Tourism will NOT return until the 14 day quarantine is gone! Get the vaccine out to the Thai people, then start with allowing tourists in without quarantine, that have been vaccinated. This would be a smart way to open, and to get it done by April 1st, before the Songkran holiday.

Paul D
Hello Thaiger Team, the story with regards to vaccinations tagging on with the STV, seems to me as another of Thailands false hope stories. But I am sure the Government powers may have overlooked the strong suggestions many Airlines have voiced, “that no traveller will be allowed on the flight unless they have proof of vaccinations”. Even this is not 100% at this point. Some countries will not even allow their citizens to leave right now. I think the Thai government, even though are doing as much as they can right now, needs to not provide false hope to travellers at this point.

Energy3
another gimmick by thai officials – free vaccine with STV – sounds like you’re getting a happy meal with a free toy
Sai Sai
This is ridiculous!

Tyler Durden
These Thai officials need to wake up. The reason us tourists aren’t coming to Thailand is because of the 2 week quarantine, adding extra vaccination costs on top of an already expensive STV visa ain’t gonna get me over there that’s for sure. If these officials don’t drop the 2 week quarantine, there once popular visitors are going to be popular visitors elsewhere, as already I know many people traveling to South America.

And this gentlemen, J German, who went to all the trouble for little return…

I went to Bangkok in Dec. for the holidays. I did my 2 weeks of ASQ during which the shrimp market outbreak started. By the time I got out of quarantine, I had 4 nights of fun, but it was far from what the scene once was. I had a fun NYE, then it all got shut down. I went there to be in a country that was “safer” and not on lockdown. I lost that bet. Then Taiwan closed to international flights, cancelling my trip home. I got on the next plane to the US, leaving several weeks early so as not to get stuck there with nothing to do. My advice is, don’t waste your money or your time (like I did) until vaccinations are widely distributed and quarantines are over.

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    Giovanni Riccella

    Saturday, January 23, 2021 at 11:19 am

    As if, I or ANY westerner wants to pay over $ 5000 USD for a Hotel Prison and a vaccine!!! I’ve had my vaccines already and have had Covid tests which are negative. That should be enough to gain entry into a country without quarantining!!!!!!

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      Daniel

      Saturday, January 23, 2021 at 12:41 pm

      no. as long as its not proofed that the vaccine stops the spreading, that would be a really dump move. as now, the only reason for a vaccine is, that you dont get sick. but you will infect all others around you. so… yes, i live in thailand and im happy that stupidity likes this have to stay outside of this country

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        Crispy

        Saturday, January 23, 2021 at 10:01 pm

        The vaccine gets your immune system ready so should you encounter the virus you have a much better chance of overcoming it. It reduces the symptoms, hopefully to zero.
        You may still be carrying some virus so in theory could infect others. But chances are vanishingly small. There’s not enough data yet to answer this, nor how long immunity lasts, but the UK has been vaccinating since 8 December and six million people almost have had the jab.
        My guess is immunity lasts at least five months, because is what theyve found with immunity after fighting off a real virus attack.
        And of course, no long covid with the vaccine. Long covid puts 30% of those hospitalised, bzck in hospital within five months and kills an eighth.
        The lessonas I see it is to get on and vaccinate all residents once you get to 70%, you can consider the threat over, herd immunity, and can then reopen the economy.
        But! Attention mutant strains!!Even your own people vaccinated, be strict with new entrants by insisting on proof of their own vaccination and a PCR test or equivalent.
        Once the vaccination program is rolling,next steps are to get the workforce ready for work and to upgrade the infrastructure, especially the tourist infrastructure.
        Now, all this takes enormous sums of money. Care on how it is raised as – believe your crediros – it must be repaid if you are to survive as a sovereign state.
        There are no short, no point in trying to be clever or partisan, just get on down and dedicate yourself to the welfare of the people, hi-so, low-so, not-so, north, south,central, everyone included.
        Good luck everyone! See you all soon my friends!!!

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          Ivan Brooker

          Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 6:14 am

          I think your 6 million figure is is a bit over optimistic ?
          The last figure I saw a couple of days ago was 3.4 million.
          The system is having different priority levels done first .
          We have nurses/teachers in our bigger family -I think they have had their first jabs done.

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            freddy

            Monday, January 25, 2021 at 7:32 am

            The number of those vaccinated (total 1st vaccine doses) in UK as of midnight 24 /25 Jan is 6,353,321. The number of people vaccinated on the one day of Sat 23 was 491’970

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      Issan John

      Saturday, January 23, 2021 at 2:19 pm

      It’s not. Fortunately for the rest of us the experts’ opinions are given more credibility than the wannabe tourists’.

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        Dreamon

        Saturday, January 23, 2021 at 6:44 pm

        Are you still talking? Aren’t you tired to lick the boots of your Thai master? Go back to your Nazi cave.

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        dispensed

        Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 1:07 am

        Experts: 2 to 3 weeks to flatten the curve! 97,000 dead in Sweden by July if they don’t implement lockdowns!

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      London Al

      Saturday, January 23, 2021 at 7:47 pm

      Well said, as usual John doesn’t source the “experts” then proceeds to insult you for making a perfectly valid point, there are people here who want the vaccine to fail so they can continue being minor celebrities in an insignficant forum, best to ignore them.

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        Issan John

        Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 2:50 am

        What “experts” would you like sourced?

        Those who DON’T suggest the vaccines approved so far give any known protection from transmission?

        The manufacturers of the vaccines, for starters. I think they probably have a reasonable amount of expertise where their own vaccines are concerned.

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    luca

    Saturday, January 23, 2021 at 4:29 pm

    in reality the first studies seem to indicate who is vaccinated is not infectious, if this is confirmed in the coming months and Thailand wants to reopen tourism then it could eliminate the quarantine, in any case I do not think that at the opening of the borders there will be a rush to Thailand, especially for Chinese and Indian tourists, Westerners are now a minority of tourists who go to Thailand

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      Issan John

      Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 2:52 am

      What “first studies” indicate that?

      Name any … any at all.

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        luca

        Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 3:31 pm

        for example in Italy the hospitals that administer the vaccine follow the effects on patients and from the first empirical studies on vaccinated people it appears that they are not contagious basically because they do not become positive, they are studies of a few weeks but they are a beginning

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          Issan John

          Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 12:24 am

          God almighty.

          If all the study in Italy shows is that they’re not testing positive, that doesn’t mean they’re not contagious.

          FFS.

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    Dreamon

    Saturday, January 23, 2021 at 6:46 pm

    Don’t reply to Issan he is a wanna be I know everything Nazi scumbag troll, payed by dictatorship.

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      Geoff

      Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 2:53 am

      “Nazi scumbag troll”!? He He He! Funny!

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    Ian

    Saturday, January 23, 2021 at 6:59 pm

    I believe even if you had the vaccine and had no indication of covid for a month issan john wouldn’t let you in he does not want farang in Thailand at any cost his hatred towards us shines out on a daily basis you don’t deserve to be a British citizen your a disgrace to UK and thailand

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      Issan John

      Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 3:03 am

      As usual, what you “believe” is incorrect.

      I have no “hatred” towards you, although I despise the absolute dregs of my country who’ve contributed nothing to it in any way, never served in the blue light services or the military in any capacity, but who think that nothing more than an accident of birth gives them something to be proud of.

      If the cap fits, wear it.

      I have no problems about farangs, Chinese, or little green men from Mars coming to Thailand but I see no reason why one person’s life should be put at risk purely so someone else, whatever country they’re from, can enjoy themselves and have a holiday.

      You evidently think that because you’re a farang your holiday is more important than other people’s lives.

      I don’t.

      I also think my country’s currently being run into the ground by the biggest group of clowns and incompetents to have done so in living memory, and I see no point in trying to pretend otherwise – not that anyone who’s had anything to do with running the UK in the last twenty years did any better, which is about as sad an indictment of any country as it comes.

      That’s not “hatred”, just disappointment.

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        David Mann

        Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 7:50 am

        Why do you keep using the racist term Farang? Use of such derogatory terms won’t endear you to the local population. What is wrong with using the English word “foreigner”

        In addition, this is not just about “foreigners” who want to holiday in Thailand. It’s also a case of a massive loss of GDP (15-20%) and the destruction of thousands of Thai businesses. I assume you don’t own a business in Thailand and certainly not one who is reliant on tourists?

        Spare a thought for the millions of people being hurt financially and sinking deeper in to the debt trap as a result of this pandemic.

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          Issan John

          Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 2:05 pm

          I keep using the term “farang” because:

          i) I’m replying to other people who do so, since changing to something that has a completely different meaning would not only be discourteous but moving the goalposts, and …

          ii) I don’t consider it “racist” or “derogatory”, nor does anyone else I know, Thai or farang.

          … and ‘no’, I “don’t own a business in Thailand and certainly not one who is reliant on tourists”. I’m financially independent, and have been since I moved here nearly three decades ago.

          … and FWIW I do “spare a thought for the millions of people being hurt financially and sinking deeper in to the debt trap as a result of this pandemic” but I’m balancing that against the millions more who would be hurt far more if Thailand were in the same state as the UK or Europe which is the alternative you seem to have chosen to ignore.

          … and FWIW although the “loss to GDP” from damage to the tourism industry (not losses from reduced exports, etc) is often given as “15-20%” of GDP without any evidence to support it, it’s estimated by the World Bank, amongst other informed sources, as 6.9%.

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    Crispy

    Saturday, January 23, 2021 at 8:24 pm

    Covid shuts the tourist industry.
    What do you do with the workers? The assets (shops, boats, coaches, hotels, monuments etc)?

    Being out of work for a long time means you lose the discipline of work and get into criminal activities.
    How do you get 1.5 million people back into work next year 2022, or retrained into new jobs?

    All those assets. Rotting away. Who’s got the money to replace them when the tourists return?
    And if money goes to restoring old assets, it doesn’t go into new industries, like factories to build the electric car.

    The priorities need government money to keep things ticking over.

    And Thailand will re-open and tourists will return when 70% of Thais are protected through vaccination to herd immunity.

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      Issan John

      Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 3:07 am

      Good questions, Crispy.

      So what’s the answer to protecting both the tourist industry and everyone else?

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    Oksana

    Saturday, January 23, 2021 at 8:53 pm

    Tourists have the vaccine for free. And immunity…

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Phuket is rehearsing procedures to ready themselves for the Covid‐19 vaccine administration green light. A rehearsal at Vachira Hospital’s Lan Muang Khao open area was held late yesterday to iron out any kinks in the administration process. Phuket Vice Governor Pichet Panapong watched over the procedures along with other health officials.

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“The government recognises the importance of the affected areas of the economy where the epidemic situation of COVID-19 must be stopped and has allocated the COVID-19 vaccine to Phuket Province to build herd immunity, restore the economy, return a smile to Thailand.”

“We are preparing to COVID-19 mass vaccination to build confidence among the people that they will receive a quality, safe vaccine and to receive follow-up care after it has been administered.”

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“People with severe neurological conditions and pregnant women should be wary of taking the vaccine, as well as women who are breastfeeding and people with immunodeficiency.”

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The Thai PM, Prayut Chan-o-cha will receive the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine on Sunday, while Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul will receive the Chinese jab. According to a Bangkok Post report, Sopon Mekthon from the sub-committee on vaccine management says both politicians will receive their vaccines at the Bamrasnaradura Infectious Disease Institute. On Monday, the vaccination of priority groups in specific provinces will get underway.

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