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2 foreigners in same hotel as the Koh Samui woman test positive for Covid-19

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Officials are reviewing the use of a Samut Prakan hotel, just outside Bangkok, as a quarantine facility, after 3 foreign nationals staying there tested positive for Covid-19. The first was a 57 year old woman who developed symptoms of the virus after she had completed 14 days’ quarantine and had returned to her home on the island of Koh Samui. It’s understood the woman has both Thai and French citizenship; she was born in Thailand and is married to a French national.

Yesterday, Sophon Iamsirithavorn from the General Communicable Diseases Division, confirmed 2 more foreigners staying at the same hotel, in the central province of Samut Prakan, also tested positive. All 3 are now receiving hospital treatment, but Sophon says officials are still not sure how they became infected or if their cases are even linked. He adds that the hotel, named in a Bangkok Post report as the Siam Mandarina, may not meet the required standard of an alternative state quarantine facility.

Thai PBS World reports that the hotel has been thoroughly disinfected by health authorities after traces of Covid-19 were found on equipment in the hotel gym. It’s understood the Disease Control Department is in talks with Samut Prakan health officials regarding a possible suspension of the hotel as a quarantine ‘ASQ’ facility.

Officials are also deciding whether to release those currently quarantining in the hotel once they’ve completed their 14 days, or whether they should be required to install a tracking app on their phones or other means to trace them post-quarantine. Tests are also being carried out on each of the 3 patients to determine if there is a match between the virus strains in each of them.

SOURCE: Thai PBS World | Bangkok Post

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    Bob

    October 28, 2020 at 9:55 am

    Interesting how the news media first described the woman as French, even that she was born Thai, and much later in her life enquirer a French citizenship.

    I guess it sells better if the headline is about a farang (dirty or not..)

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    Toby Andrews

    October 28, 2020 at 11:24 am

    The quarantine did not work then?
    Time to abandon this method to prevent the virus, and take the small risk of the virus entering the country, and the even more tiny risk of the virus causing the death of a Thai.

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      Jilted John

      October 28, 2020 at 12:19 pm

      Can you honestly see the Thai Government admitting they’re quarantine measures have failed?

      Not a chamce!

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        Issan John

        October 28, 2020 at 3:13 pm

        They already have, and it was reported by the Thaiger three days ago:

        “The Department of Disease Control says, because of this incident, they are planning further restrictions and measures for ASQ hotels.”

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          Jilted John

          October 28, 2020 at 3:54 pm

          ‘because of this incident, they are planning further restrictions and measures for ASQ’

          That doesn’t read as an admission to failing nor an apology, that’s just an acknowledgment which obviously they even failed to act upon with 2 further cases.

          Why wasn’t the hotel closed or at least removed as an ASQ?

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            Issan John

            October 28, 2020 at 4:26 pm

            Not an “apology”, just as there have been no “apologies” from other countries under identical circumstances, but pretty clearly an “admission to failing”, and that was three days ago.

            The article above says that “Yesterday, Sophon Iamsirithavorn from the General Communicable Diseases Division, … says officials are still not sure how they became infected or if their cases are even linked. He adds that the hotel, named in a Bangkok Post report as the Siam Mandarina, may not meet the required standard of an alternative state quarantine facility.
            … It’s understood the Disease Control Department is in talks with Samut Prakan health officials regarding a possible suspension of the hotel as a quarantine ‘ASQ’ facility.”

            What part of that isn’t clear?

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      Issan John

      October 28, 2020 at 3:09 pm

      Do the maths.

      With just a very conservative test failure rate of 3%, it’s impossible for quarantine anywhere to be 100% successful even if the quarantine regulations are applied correctly and fully by the ASQ, which they probably weren’t.

      Even after three tests over 14 days, a 3% failure rate in testing only becomes 0.003% so going from 3 failures in a hundred tests to 3 in a hundred thousand. Given the numbers coming in to Thailand every day it’s simply inevitable that some are going to get through the system however well it’s administered, as almost certainly happened here – there’s no way round that, beyond closing the border completely.

      It’s far from a perfect solution, but given the limitations of the tests it’s the best system available.

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      adam

      October 29, 2020 at 7:13 am

      Toby are you out of your mind???? Tourism bans saved the country – look what is happening in Europe. Not only tourisrm – but now entertainment, restaurants, shops, gyms, cinemas, pubs, schools are closed – this is what you want there?/?? CLOSE THE BORDERS

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    Al

    October 28, 2020 at 8:13 pm

    And John, what are the percentages of people actually surviving the dreaded CV19? Isn’t it 99.?
    Straight answer please and no ducking or diving……fanx 😉

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      Issan John

      October 29, 2020 at 4:30 am

      FWIW, if you really want the age-adjusted mortality rates from the cruises, they give a CFR of 2.6% and an IFR of 1.3%, so a “survival rate” of 97.4 and 98.7% (so not far off your “99”).

      That’s the best “straight answer” available.

      Given the known infection rates there of around 22% despite strict quarantine, that would mean ‘only’ some 250,000 dying in Thailand as long as Thailand kept the borders closed and the entire country in a permanent state of strict lockdown (equivalent to tier 3+ in England).

      While accepting that “a ship isn’t a country”, are you suggesting that 250,000 deaths in Thailand and a complete border closure and an indefinite quarantined lockdown for the entire country is acceptable, or even possible, until there’s a guaranteed cure and vaccine?

      Straight answer please and no ducking or diving.

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    Issan John

    October 29, 2020 at 3:37 am

    If you think there’s a “straight answer” you’re even more clueless than I thought, and I didn’t think that was likely.

    A search for “mortality rate from Covid-19” will explain why, as well as explain the differences between CFR, CMR and IFR and why they vary between considerably less than 1% to as much as 20%.

    The only verifiable figures are from cruise liners which are skewed by age so can’t be directly applied and are misleading, and you’re somehow ignoring the importance of how contagious it is which dictates the numbers dying just as much as the mortality rate.

    That isn’t “ducking or diving”, it’s just a seriously uninformed question since there is no known “straight answer”.

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    Al

    October 29, 2020 at 8:09 pm

    Uninformed you actually wrote that without sniggering?!! 55!

    So how many folk have died in all countries and what percentage are they of each nation?

    Plus – The percent of chances of surviving the dreaded malady, is 99.9……% and that is depending on your age group without any underlying conditions. Over 80’s it drops to 98.9%. I cannot post the link but go to Stockholm (Sweden, in case you don’t know ; ) ) University’s website.
    Jeez, John Boy, you don’t half waffle on……..555! Do you work for the mainscream snews or the Daily Mail/Sun?

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If you think the current spate of rallies are ruling out of steam, think again. Yesterday’s large protest around the Lat Phrao intersection on Phahon Yothin Road was just the first of 3 days of planned protests around Bangkok and Samut Prakan. Protesters yesterday described their action as an “anti-coup drill”, claiming that the coup “chatter” continued and that they would strenuously protest against another Army-led action against Thai citizens.

The yellow ducks and a few other inflatable animals were again taking front stage in a rally that was described more like a picnic than a political demonstration.

Today’s rally will start at the Imperial World Samrong shopping centre, south of central Bangkok, and march to Bang Na intersection.

Then tomorrow protesters plan to hold another rally in front of the . Imperial World Samrong shopping centre.

A spokesperson for the Metropolitan Police says there will be up to 500 crowd control police attending to each of the protests, adding that the rallies had been given formal permission to go ahead and police will be ensuring that no laws are broken.

The government has come under a barrage of criticism from NGOs and rights groups about some of the heavy-handed responses and baiting at rallies to “create” the appearance of conflict. Yesterday the Foreign Ministry issued a statement via their spokesperson, Tanee Sangrat in response to the criticism.

13 international organisations – including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, the Asia Democracy Network, and the Asian Forum for Human Rights and Development – have made official submissions about the response from police and handling of the rival protest groups, which resulted in the shooting of 6 people and other protesters injured by the high power water cannons and tear gas deployed by riot police..

The Ministry spokesman maintained that Thailand had “upheld the rule of law and respected the judicial process with transparency. In handling recent protests, the authorities have enforced the law in line with international standards, with the appropriate response to the situation.”

The spokesperson said that participants in the November 17 outside the Thai Parliament broke through concrete barricades and tried to reach an “off-limits area”, forcing police to take action to bring the situation under control. Protesters told police that they wanted to get to the front of the parliament buildings to protest the debates that were being conducted inside.

“The operation was proportional to the situation and was not excessive. Those who want to exercise their right to assemble must follow the law and consider the safety of others.”

Organisers of yesterday afternoon’s rally, the United Front of Thammasat and Demonstration, called the rally “an anti-coup drill”.

“Undeniably, speculation about a coup has been rife. It should not happen. But history teaches us that we cannot trust. Therefore, all are welcome for a drill to cope with another possible coup”.

Current Thai PM Prayut Chan-o-cha, as head of the Thai Army before the May 2014 coup, maintained that the army would not intervene and oust the Yingluck Shinawatra government.

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Shooter from Bangkok SCB protest surrenders to police

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A man accused of shooting at anti-government protesters at a rally in Bangkok on Wednesday has admitted the charge and surrendered to police. Peerawut Kunamonkan delivered his 25 year old son, Passapong, to police at Phaholyothin station in the capital yesterday. He faces charges of attempted murder, shooting in public, and illegally carrying a gun and ammunition.

According to a Nation Thailand report, Passapong is accused of shooting 20 year old Prachakorn Saksritao, a former student of Pathumthani Technical College, but claims he did it for personal, not political, reasons. It’s understood Prachakorn was at the rally as a member of the protesters’ security team. The shooting took place as activists were dispersing at the end of a rally at the headquarters of the Siam Commercial Bank.

The accused, a former student at Min Buri Polytechnic Technology College in Bangkok, says he was reacting to sarcastic social media posts from Prachakorn. The posts were made after Passapong and the group he was with voiced their disapproval of activists insulting the Monarchy. Passapong is taking full responsibility for the shooting, saying nobody paid him to do it and that he will pay for the victim’s medical treatment.

Following speculation on social media that the shooting was carried out by a yellow-shirt royalist, Thanadech Srisongkram, from the Minburi vocational student guards, has denied the claims. He says the shooting had nothing to do with the protests or the Monarchy, adding that his group is not affiliated with any particular political group. He says he has apologised to the security detail from Pathumthani Technical College, promising that such an incident will not happen again.

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Thousands gather in Bangkok for “anti-coup” protest picnic

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Around 5,000 pro-democracy activists gathered at the Lat Phrao intersection in the Chatuchak district of Bangkok last night, to oppose any potential coup, a situation continually denied by the current PM. Last night’s gathering took the form of a picnic, at which mainly north-eastern dishes were served. Protesters described it as a rehearsal against military intervention, with one 18 year old activist, named only as Tan, saying history cannot be allowed to repeat itself.

“I’m only 18 but have seen 2 coups already. That’s not right. We don’t want history to repeat itself.”

The rally was announced on Facebook by the United Front of Thammasat and Demonstration, who say the Thai people have had enough of coups that oust elected governments. They described the event as “a drill against a coup d’etat”.

“There have been too many coups in the past, so history has taught us to remain vigilant. Therefore, we would like to invite everyone to participate in a drill to prepare for another coup that could happen.”

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According to a Nation Thailand report, there have been at least 12 successful coups in Thailand, an average of 1 every 7 years, since the country moved from an absolute monarchy to a constitutional monarchy following the Siamese Revolution of 1932. The last military coup was in May 2014, which brought former army general Prayut Chan-o-cha to power, where he has remained ever since.

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Last night’s gathering follows another one in the capital on Wednesday, when thousands rallied outside the headquarters of the Siam Commercial Bank. The Bangkok Post reports that another protest is planned for today, in front of the Imperial World Samrong shopping mall in Samut Prakan, just outside Bangkok, and a further one tomorrow, at the Imperial Lat Phrao mall.

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