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Is it time for Thailand to restart its tourist industry? – SURVEY

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It’s been 10 months since the first murmurings of a novel coronavirus emerged in China. Since then there’s been an unprecedented effort to control or contain the disease by governments around the world – some more successful in their efforts than others.

Covid-19 has also had more words written about it, more conspiracy theories and more debate than any other disease in human history. 2020 will go down in history as the year of the Covid-19 pandemic. (What will it end up being called? The Great Pandemic? The 2020 Pandemic? The China Flu?… tell us your ideas in the ‘comments’ below)

The re-opening of Thailand’s borders began back in July after a 3 month ban on international travel. But it’s still a difficult process and remains impossible for many. Tim Newton shared an opinion, what’s yours? Please complete the survey below too so we can share your views.

OPINION

“Just a year ago, you’d book a flight, book a hotel, and probably arrive at a Thai airport and get a visa-on-arrival stamp in your passport. A few hours later you were sitting on a beach sipping colourful drinks out of tall glasses.

The easy to organise and relatively simple trip to Thailand is now an impossibility for most people who still have the time or chance to travel. Covid-19 has changed everything and, with such an economic reliance on tourism, poses a critical threat to Thailand’s chances of short to mid-term recovery.

At this stage it is a mind-numbing challenge to come to Thailand, unless you have very deep pockets, an urgent need, or fall into a smattering of categories currently allowed by the Thai government.

Even if all that applies to you, there is an almost endless number of hoops you will have to jump through to be approved for travel to Thailand right now.

At the moment the Thai government only recognises certain visa types to re-enter the country. But even if you are eligible in theory, there are limited entries of people allowed back into the country.

For example, the holders of Thailand Elite visas have been ‘officially’ able to re-enter the country since the start of August. But in practice, according to a source at Thailand Elite, not more than 50 people have actually successfully returned up to date.

Around the world, the information from Thai embassies is also difficult to pin down. Different officials, in different countries, provide conflicting information about the same visa products.

But the sticking point still seems to be the mandatory 14 day quarantine period at a state approved facility. This includes government approved hotels as well, but these hotel quarantines aren’t cheap. And of course, you’re cooped up in a room with little access to outside activities during that time.

Even the newly launched Special Tourist Visa is very special indeed. Applicants require plenty of cash and have to have the intention coming for at least 90 days.

But when you add the compulsory health insurance, only provided by Thai companies, doing all your bookings through the government’s private travel company Thailand Long Stay, flying on specially chartered flights, etc etc, the costs start to stack up. And you haven’t even bought a beer or had a massage at this stage!

The first attempts to bring in a batch of special tourism visa applicants, reportedly a plane load from Guangzhou, in southern China, has been a complete botch job and clearly will need a lot of refinement before it is taken up by a broader traveller base.

To call this ‘tourism’ is a misnomer. The dribble of high spenders, people prepared to fill out all the paperwork, and pay for the pleasure of coming to Thailand, will do nothing for Thailand’s broader tourism industry. It certainly won’t do much to re-open the 1000s of shuttered hotels. Tens of 1000s of other businesses, connected to the Thai tourism juggernaut, remain in tatters.

Even if you’re a tourist, with the best intentions to visit ‘safe’ Thailand’, officially free of Covid-19, what precisely are you going to do when you get here? If your intention is to head out on an island tour or hit the red light districts, you’re probably going to be disappointed.

There are few tours running right now, the red light districts – at least in Phuket, Samui and Pattaya – are not very ‘red’, and many hotels, again in the popular tourist zones, remain shut. Ok there’s still plenty to do and you’ll probably be able to get some great bargains with eager hotels and taxi drivers. But the ‘Thailand’ you were probably expecting is not currently operating.

Some of the places you’d really like to visit may be inaccessible for now, or not even open.

At some stage, hopefully sooner rather than later, the Thai government will have to re-open its borders and find a way to ‘manage’ the Covid-19 situation rather than remain in a travel bubble of its own making. The longer the government doesn’t re-open to something akin to general tourism, the harder it will be to re-boot the former Thai tourism powerhouse.

You would think with a compulsory wearing of face masks, some diligent respect for social distancing and constant reminders of good hygiene and hand washing, most of the risk factors for Covid-19, can be mitigated. Testing before travel and upon arrival also provides an extra level of defence. There are well established ways to avoid a virus beyond the blunt tool of simply closing borders.”

(The opinions expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of The Thaiger Pte Ltd or DBVentures)

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    David

    Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 12:53 pm

    As a tourist with 12 visits to Thailand over the last 11 years, I would like to add my concerns about the solutions/varieties of demands on the tourists…
    It is imperative that a vacation i Thailand can be PLANNED IN ADVANCE, not only as a spur of the moment decision. I need to plan a few months in advance, and risking and worrying about being turned away days before departure for any reason is not an option.
    Even though my wife is from Thailand and I have friends there, my only realistic option is to vacation elsewhere, which is neither what I want or what Thai companies want.
    I think Thailand needs to decide NOW on which countries to trust for the coming winter season.

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      Danny Bigspuds

      Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 9:10 am

      I’m just wondering why Thailand are trusting the scientists that are ruining their economy, and wondering why the Nobel Prize Winner who invented the PCR test (to test for viral load of HIV) hasn’t been quoted by people opposed to this “prevention is better than the cure” strategy.

      If you’ve never heard of him his name (till he died last August of pneumonia) was Kary Mullis, and he despised Fauci and all he stood for. In a nutshell, he iterated that the test was not a test, and it was merely an amplifier of something we all have in us, i.e the coronavirus strain. Oddly enough he referenced Buddhism when he was explaining it (everything containing everything etc).

      Anyhow, he made it pretty clear that you can amplify the PCR test [which is now the miracle C19 test] certain amounts of times to produce whatever results you choose. He also said it can never be used simply for diagnosis. He’s on film saying it, try to avoid NWO Fact Check sites, cos they’re anything but… Chok Dee Siam hope too see you soon krab!

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    Come back Thailand

    Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 1:12 pm

    i am or was beginning to be a frequent visitor to Thailand, i came once a few years ago now i can’t stop, i have come multiple times a year. Open the borders but test before and test when get there. Same for tourist going back home. Also to me the STV is a waste of time, you will get more money from someone like me because more people like me would be there. I come to Thailand and spend much money because i could move around freely. I stay at decent Hotels for many weeks, i travel to Chiang Mai or Phuket from Bangkok and back to Bangkok where i spent most of my time. I plan to spend money when i there. Restaurants love me, Bars, taxi, Malls, MRT, BTS, Asia Airline and all in between love to see me coming. Then i go back to America and start all over again plan to return. I spent much money in my ability to move around the country, no trouble all fun. I am a self conscious person so my hygiene is a priority but i was raised to practice great hygiene and i do not want to make others ill with even the common cold, i really don’t want others to make me ill either. SO keeping a tourist similar to me out of Thailand i think hurts the tourist business more because tourist like me spend, i am not rich but i plan well. If i have to stay in one place when in Thailand i will not spread the wealth. But i need to be able to apply for VISA like before please, it was already pricey and time consuming but i understand the process so i planned for that part as well, gladly but the STV keeps me out, away, from giving Thailand what it needs and should have to help it get back to some sort of normal.

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      A

      Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 6:47 pm

      Thailand ?? local Concern bout our health than money.

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    OTTO Karl FRANKE

    Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 1:32 pm

    85 of 178 votes are 47,7 %!!!

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    Issan John

    Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 2:01 pm

    A rather disappointingly badly-phrased survey.

    Apart from sounding an ideal, what does “manage the borders and manage the disease” actually mean?

    What is meant by “controlled general tourism”?

    Both have wide appeal, unsurprisingly, but both are completely meaningless without detailing HOW any “control” is to be done or anything “managed”.

    There’s also far too much overlap between some options, such as the two for a 14 day quarantine – the option for tests before departure, for example, depends on how easy voters think they are to fake as much as how good they are.

    Disappointing, given the previous discussions and how the questions could have been put to give them some meaning rather than just none at all.

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      Vijayan

      Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 3:29 pm

      Hello Issan John, here is my solution that may be unworkable but just think about it. Covid 19 is a world pandemic for which each and every person in the world is responsible for its origin and spread. Forget about all conspiracy theories and all further stuff because there is no point in discussing such issues after we lost almost 1 million of our precious lives. No country or no person will take responsibility for this pandemic and therefore all countries in the world must compulsorily help each other to manage this situation. If Thailand has only 2000 beds in hospitals, other countries must provide finance to acquire more beds and face the situation as they come. No lock downs needed, no curfew needed and instead of quarantining the healthy adults, those vulnerable people must be quarantined before the virus reaches them. Let the business work as usual means in one sense managing the pandemic and in another sense running the life smooth. Since money is pooled there is no question of shortage of money and resources.

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        J West

        Monday, October 12, 2020 at 12:29 pm

        Why finance Thailand’s health industry only and not the other 300 countries with equipment shortages? All for tourism in Thai? I hardly think the WHO would consider this proposal.

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      Toby Andrews

      Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 4:59 pm

      Yes well surveys often are disappointing when they do not produce a result you like.
      Apart from all the ambiguity, certain matters are clear.
      701 votes for open the borders now.
      51 for keep the borders closed.
      Disappointing huh – not to me.
      And not surprising.

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        Byron Jorgenson

        Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 10:32 pm

        The people who are calling for the borders to open are those with a vested interest in the removal of immigration & tourist visit controls. Just once I would liek to see the proponents of the open borders provide a cost benefit analysis of their position. They are quick to point out the cost to bars, hotels, restaurants, brothels, massage shops, but never, ever have they provided the costs that arise from reopening the borders. There is a cost to the loss of population; of having a rolling proportion of a population chronically ill, of the over run of health care and the inability to provide healthcare in such circumstances. It is impossible to operate a factory, food processor, office when 10% of the workforce will be ill in rolling numbers. There is no “herd” immunity and no long term immunity demonstrated with this infection. There are long term physical injuries sustained in the young that ar not acknowledged. The hotels and restaurants will be there in 6 -12 months. The infrastructure has not been damaged. the asset may change ownership, but these businesses will quickly rebound. The nation of Thailand cannot be put at risk because some elderly foreigners wish to go back to Pattaya.

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          Bobby m

          Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 2:40 pm

          Such a blinkered attitude. You categorise all tourists into one box and you are wrong. You state hotels etc will still be there in 6 months “ so will the virus” it’s not going away and you seriously should not put your hopes into a vaccine solving everything.

          Just like the rest of the world. There needs to be a balance between risk and economy.

          It’s not just the tourist industry, investors and current investment are now starting to walk away as they loose faith in Thai ability to manage the situation. Big names a laying people off. Some looking to relocate.

          Yes closing the doors will keep the elders more safe, but it will devastate the county for their children.

          Already
          Debt through the roof
          Crime increasing
          Drug use increasing
          Poverty increasing
          Suicide up 22% at the last count.

          Shutting the doors and hiding from the virus is not the solution

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            Kris

            Monday, October 12, 2020 at 8:34 am

            Sorry Bobby, but i agree whole heartedly with Mr. Jorgenson. It is not worth the risk to the Thai people to allow this virus to get a foothold because the long-term costs of an outbreak would be much higher than the current damage to tourism. Thais are resilient enough to live very frugally if necessary for a long time. The health and safety of their families is much more important than a few extra bucks from abroad. Keeping the virus controlled means the majority of the economy still functions long-term, and the chance to adapt to help those who’ve lost jobs in tourism. The health & safety of the Thai people is infinitely greater than the convenience desired by foreigners and some business owners who want open borders, and I’m saying that as a foreigner. Keep up the resiliance Thailand. Long-term sustainability is always greater than short-term profit.

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            Biff

            Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 7:20 am

            Totally agree, and I work in healthcare and have been diving deep into the Covid matter for 6 months working for a Corona investigation committee. I worked around 1000 hours hearing top virologists, epidemiologists, economists, politicians, reviewing leaked government papers, etc. This is NOT about a virus. Do you understand? I repeat: This is NOT about a virus. There is a political agenda behind this. You are wasting your time discussing case numbers. What is a “case” anyways? If this were a pandemic, why hasn’t the flu been a pandemic? 650,000 people die from the flu every year. 1.5 million die from tuberculosis every year. Millions die from the consequences of obesity, smoking and poor lifestyle choices costing healthcare billions every year. If governments were worried about your health and the healthcare system, why don’t they do anything to ban junk food, cigarettes, hard liquor, Coke, etc. Never wondered why highly experienced and recognized experts with a different opinion are not even heard? Why they are censored away, defamed, insulted? Why pathologists were strictly advised to not perform autopsies? Why people dying of a heart attack but tested positive are counted as Covid deaths? Why the definition of “Pandemic” was changed by the WHO 12 years ago (Swine Flu) without providing a reason? Why the lives of a tiny minority (already ill people in their 80s) count more than all the lives lost and put at risk as a result of the drastic measures (62% increase in suicides, 80% of all necessary cancer, heart disease treatments etc. cancelled during lockdowns, 1.6 billion people losing their livelihoods, old people dying at home with masks on, scared to leave their homes for 200 days, social and human catastrophes in poor areas in developing countries)? Why so much of the news and footage shown about dead people in NY, Bergamo, Spain or, later on, about people partying on beaches, has turned out to be fake, from previous years, different locations than claimed, etc.? The West is driving up tests like crazy to justify their measures and keep this “pandemic” alive, using a PCR test that has never been officially validated and is not even capable of detecting a disease. Covid illness and death curves have been flat for 6 months and people still haven’t gotten their fundamental rights back. They were initially taken away from them with the (then understandable) reason to make sure healthcare systems are not overwhelmed. Except a few isolated areas (and there is a reason for those), no healthcare system anywhere has been more overwhelmed than in previous winters, including Italy, Spain and NY. Inform yourselves and use your common sense, folks.

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          Bobby m

          Monday, October 12, 2020 at 2:43 pm

          Hi Kris

          I do appreciate and understand your opinion sir, we all have one. I guess only time will tell. I am a front line worker, and if I am entirely honest I cannot see an end to this virus. I certainly don’t hold out much hope for a vaccine as a saviour. It might buy us a break and work for an unknown length of time, but these viruses (corona) mutate. That is why the annual flu jab Is a WHO best guess of which ones will be most virulent in the coming year.

          I really think it’s about learning to live with this virus and manage it. If we are lucky, it could mutate into something less potent. Let’s all hope so.

          Yes the older generation of Thais were very resourceful, but for example, it meant eating things the younger generation will not. The middle generation are in debt up to their ears as it was made so easy to borrow money. So much so, as all they seem to pay only an interest payment each year and the debt just continues. I am afraid having sampled modern life, younger Thais are no longer as resourceful as we think.

          Investors are pulling out, big names. Thailand has to show that they can manage their economy during this period. Even if they keep the boarders closed they need to stop with the crazy ideas that continue to fail, it’s showing inability.

          Below was my suggestion of how sensible tourism could begin. It is possible with the right controls in place.

          This is my opinion
          Fly with any airline that has permission from the Thai authorities to land at Suvarnabhumi Airport. They are operating now and have been repatriating people for some time.
          Tests. There are now so many false positives and false negatives that the validity has become questionable. However, if this is a requisite then provide it compliments of TAT. After all people are coming to spend money. Speculate to accumulate.
          Insurance via any reputable international insurers
          So, on arriving temperature check, test if required.
          Taxi from the airport to destination directly (normal meter rates)
          Self isolation in any hotel or apartment or family home for the agreed time. Yes it is possible, you just need to set the expectations and regulations.
          Hotel – confined to room with one other wife, partner, travel companion, fiancé, girlfriend, boyfriend, (also confined) for said period. Groups more than two such as families, must have family rooms so that they can isolate together. Food to be via room service left at the door with used plates etc put back outside the door.
          Apartment (by far the best option) again for the agreed period you can be joined by any one person but once they have joined you they remain with you for the given period. Food can be delivered either fast food or as in most cases shopping delivered by Tesco.
          Family home, as apartment, or in a separate room with a guideline sheet issued to the family
          Track and trace daily reported temperature.
          After given period and no problems you can travel anywhere. (Suggest additional stamp in passport) free to roam. Passport carried at all times.
          All national regulations must be followed at all times.
          # if you are joined in isolation by a Thai national, they must remain in isolation with you and you are responsible for their welfare costs should they become infected from you).#
          Just an idea, I am sure it can be improved upon.
          Yes there will be risked and yes there will be some positive cases. It will be impossible to achieve 0 cases.

          Nice talking to you Kriss at least you don’t parcel all tourists into one box such as Byron did.

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          Noneya Bidnizz

          Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:13 pm

          Lord Byron :

          You must be a complete idiot !

          It is about more — MUCH MORE — Than a few “sexpats“ wanting a “ soapy massage“ in Pattaya !

          Thai People and Thai Businesses are Dying in the THOUSANDS due to the covid “ plandemic“ scams , Yes , I DO know it exists But , Really , Are you SO foolish and un-informed ??? —
          — Do you actually BELIEVE what you wrote ? —

          I Think you MUST be a Junta Fan & Likely employed by Pinocchio Prayut & Company .

          Or , Maybe some Chinese “business “ interests looking to run Thailand into the ground so as to steal Thai property and Thai businesses for next to nothing as the Thai are starving to death and have NO CHOICE but to sell what THEY WORKED HARD FOR !

          Families are Forcibly Separated for approaching a year now .

          Foreign investments are Leaving the country or choosing to invest elsewhere.

          My Students suffer because Their Farang Teachers cannot return causing them to lose Important parts of their educations that they may never get back .

          Exports and Imports are WAY Down

          But , By ALL means , KEEP THE BORDERS CLOSED ( So Sayeth the fools who believe all the HIGHLY Exaggerated Hype & Outright LIES , Or , Do so FOR THEIR OWN SELFISH INTERESTS ! )

          I Pray For Thailand !!!

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    Thai guy

    Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 2:15 pm

    Thailand doing best
    Close border for mass tourism forever
    Thailand can be luxury destinations for small amount wealthy travelers.
    No to backpackers and other zero bath tourists. Our country is not a trash bin. I am glad that Thais have begun to appreciate themselves

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      Maag

      Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 2:37 pm

      Thailand is far away to be a destination for selected rich tourists , but more a backpacker ans low income place !

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      Thomas

      Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 3:55 pm

      I don’t mind the idea, I agree there are to many cheap tourists with no money. Unfortunately you can’t change the developments of 50+ years in tourism in a matter of months without completely destroying it in the process and generating millions of unemployed in the process. And looking at the TAT projections for the next decades I don’t think anybody is planning on doing so. Because only with mass tourism can they reach those numbers.

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      Dreamon

      Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 4:15 pm

      Thailand have some nice places but it’s far to be a destination for rich and wealthy people, almost impossible for Thailand beat the quality and services offered in Italy or France.

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      Toby Andrews

      Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 4:43 pm

      You just want the rich to visit Thai Guy. Well the rich are rich enough not to have to tolerate being locked in their hotel rooms for 14 days in quarantine.
      They will not come.
      You are glad the Thais have begun to appreciate themselves.
      See how well they appreciate themselves in another six months, fishing, farming or lining up for free food in the street.
      Chang Mai has lost a 100 billion Baht so far because you keep foreigners out.
      Your prosperity counts on foreigners, investment, tourism and all that attracts other foreigners.
      You are not the only country in south east Asia that has sun and beaches.

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        Byron jorgenson

        Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 10:37 pm

        Where does this 100 billion come from? You people invent numbers. And yes Thailand is the only real tourism & long stay destination in SE Asia for westerners. Have you been to the Philippines, Malaysia, Vietnam, or Cambodia? The infrastructure is nowhere near as good. The corruption and pollution is just as bad. And the social life is nowhere near as good. Most people who go to these countries can not afford high end destinations like Singapore.

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      NoWayYouAreThai

      Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 4:44 pm

      Thailand is not a place for wealthy travellers sadly, your country is a low budget destination by default and sadly you have to clean up your “trash bin” first. Get rid of the street dogs, clean up your air, make your traffic safe, remove the rubbish everywhere and then maybe you can ask for the richer tourists to come.

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      sandfeldt

      Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 6:52 pm

      Thai Guy
      you are so right
      No backpackers , and no zero bath tourists
      open the border for people with family, girlfriend/boyfriend , buisness in thailand
      and close for everything else

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      lucapattaya

      Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 7:38 pm

      912/5000
      Thailand is not a place for rich tourists, if you mean billionaires, I am not rich but in my three week trip I spend 3,500 euros, this is the golden target of tourism for Thailand, 40 million Chinese tourists per year certainly spend less money, like Indians, it is only the large number of them that produces economic wealth. Thailand is the second largest economy in Asia but with the global recession due to covid it will lose more than 20% of its tourism earnings, so it is very likely that when it reopens its borders, the bhat will have lost much of its value. In Europe you can travel freely and in fact the infections are increasing exponentially, so Thailand is right to keep the borders closed, I’m sorry for Thai Guy but I’m sure that when the covid is over Thailand will reopen to mass tourism and I think it will be even more convenient for us normal tourists

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      Stefan Svensson

      Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 11:44 pm

      555, the most thai comment i ever heard. What a clown

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    Bobby m

    Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 2:40 pm

    This is my opinion

    Fly with any airline that has permission from the Thai authorities to land at Suvarnabhumi Airport. They are operating now and have been repatriating people for some time.

    Tests. There are now so many false positives and false negatives that the validity has become questionable. However, if this is a requisite then provide it compliments of TAT. After all people are coming to spend money. Speculate to accumulate.

    Insurance via any reputable international insurers

    So, on arriving temperature check, test if required.

    Taxi from the airport to destination directly (normal meter rates)

    Self isolation in any hotel or apartment or family home for the agreed time. Yes it is possible, you just need to set the expectations and regulations.

    Hotel – confined to room with one other wife, partner, travel companion, fiancé, girlfriend, boyfriend, (also confined) for said period. Groups more than two such as families, must have family rooms so that they can isolate together. Food to be via room service left at the door with used plates etc put back outside the door.

    Apartment (by far the best option) again for the agreed period you can be joined by any one person but once they have joined you they remain with you for the given period. Food can be delivered either fast food or as in most cases shopping delivered by Tesco.

    Family home, as apartment, or in a separate room with a guideline sheet issued to the family

    Track and trace daily reported temperature.

    After given period and no problems you can travel anywhere. (Suggest additional stamp in passport) free to roam. Passport carried at all times.

    All national regulations must be followed at all times.

    # if you are joined in isolation by a Thai national, they must remain in isolation with you and you are responsible for their welfare costs should they become infected from you).#

    Just an idea, I am sure it can be improved upon.

    Yes there will be risked and yes there will be some positive cases. It will be impossible to achieve 0 cases.

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      Toby Andrews

      Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 9:53 pm

      Yes your post makes sense Bobby, however you have to deal with Thais that have no sense.

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    willem Hagting

    Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 2:42 pm

    No STV needed now. Just start with letting all longstay visa holders come back first. Many thousands of NON O visa holders are waiting desperate to come back.

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      Frustrated in the UK

      Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 8:01 pm

      Yes I am with you all the way. Time to let us back and spend our money. My staff are now laid off because the borders are closed. My business is halted because the borders are closed. My step daughter is missing out on her one on one schooling in maths and English because the borders are closed. My rubber plantation cannot be harvested because the borders are closed. The Leo brewery is on reduced output because the borders are closed. I cannot complete the purchase of my new IZUSU because the borders are closed.

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      Thai Elite-ish

      Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 10:54 pm

      Exactly! My $2.3m home has been collecting dust since March!!! I simply have a hard time believing Thailand couldn’t do with the economic impact of my spending and that of the thousands of other wealthy expatriate land owners currently locked out for no real reason. We have both the financial means AND the common sense to be trusted and beneficial tourists within the kingdom. The government is frozen with fear but the only thing stopping is; not the virus, not the recession but general progress in any direction at all… this cannot continue

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        Kris

        Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 5:07 am

        Thanks Bobby; appreciate much of what you have to say here also. And i unfortunately agree this virus is here to stay. All viruses mutate as Covid has already done so many times, the current dominant strain being more contagious but possibly less lethal, a normal step in its evolution as both those elements allow for its greater survival. But there are other characteristics of this virus which if you analyze it scientifically make it clear theres something much more sinister than just another flu we have to live with. Unfortunately I’m not qualified to say much, but i do encourage everyone to do this: put aside as best you can all personal or political bias and research about this virus logically from several sources. Gradually a clearer understanding will emerge. Wish all the best.

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          Bobby m

          Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 1:25 am

          ?? It’s exactly the reason I took the time to reply to you Kris, you are looking at this sensibly and approach it bilaterally. Unlike the person I reacted to (quite angrily I admit) approaches these subjects with a monocular view.

          If Thailand is to survive they desperately need to show the world they can balance their economy and I know you will understand that it doesn’t necessarily mean opening the boarders and letting everyone go wherever they want and whenever they want. However, there does need to be a sensible approach that is both simple and protective and workable, importantly, without ripping people off.

          It’s a given, that having zero cases indefinitely is a pipe dream,

          All the very best Kris.

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    Ian

    Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 2:46 pm

    What about people who have Thai family and a home ( not in the tourism areas) . Send money every month but cannot go and see your loved ones ? I cannot go for 90 days.

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    mike

    Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 3:29 pm

    It’s a moot point. Even f Thailand does open to borders to mass tourism, there are still very few people willing and in the position to travel anyway. One of the most likely are people from Hong Kong where COVID is under control and the people are affluent and travel frequently – no one here is looking to travel because we need to quarantine when we get back. The fact the travellers are required to travel on arrival in Thailand is irrelevant.

    Its more likely that Thailand’s borders will be opened and they will have to wait patiently for people to come.

    I wish them all the best – many of my Thai friends are getting very worried – some are getting desperate.

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    Fabian

    Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 4:36 pm

    Honestly, I think this poll is silly. Why bash China and Bill Gates in a ridiculous answer. Was it meant to be funny… or is the whole poll meant to be funny?

    I can’t find my answer to the question among these options. I’m still in favor of a short quarantine of max 4 days. If people already did a Covid test at home, that makes 7 days in total (Do a quick test on day 7; they can be very accurate). Give visitors more space than just a hotel room. Assign tourist areas. Don’t let them all over the country. Between tourist areas and other parts impose rules to prevent possible spreading.

    However, ANYTHING is better than just talking and changing minds the whole time. Make a decision. Open up or don’t but just be clear. The Thai government is acting like someone who wants to jump into the swimming pool but thinks the water is too cold.

    I wanna jump.. I don’t wanna jump… I wanna jump… I don’t wanna jump.

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      jason bourne

      Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 1:05 am

      we should bash the Chinese government not the people, although its unproven, it did originate in China, the government there did initially silence that whistle blowing doctor (who later died of covid or was silenced), they made that bat scientist from the bio lab close to the market disappear, non of these facts are deniable. I find it funny no one is blaming China now. But they will when this dust has settled. Although lets face it .. .the CIA and Mi6 already know what happened.

      And isn’t it a coincidence the first ones through the gate with a vaccine are the Chinese and their friends the Russians. Co incidence .. I think not.

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      Pat

      Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 11:48 am

      Why insurance for covid so expensive in thailand. You have to test before leaving for Thailand test when there test several times in quarantine. Then if ok let out into covid free country. So why insurance so expensive. It’s like living in the countryside and being made to get insurance for being hit by a boat.

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        Tango

        Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 2:55 pm

        How much is it

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    Peter Holland

    Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 6:43 pm

    Whatever Thailand does there are some really protective measures:
    The duration of a minimum period stay of 90 days in effect means the targets are the retirees and they predominantly are very cautious themselves. They don’t visit super spreader events;
    The duration of a minimum of 90 days also means, that most of these elderlies are going to spend real money and they will not travel all over the place;
    A COVID-19 test in their country and again on arrival should be sufficient. A mandatory app or bracelet to track them, should make it easy to contact them if they have been in contact with an infected person.

    Some remarks on the not exactly smooth process so far:
    If travelers have to join a chartered flight it probably means they cannot join a non-stop flight to Thailand hence added risks;
    If they have a health insurance with a minimum coverage of US$ 100,000 there is no added value in taking another one on top of it with a Thai insurance company.

    I am one of these elderly snowbirds and have visited the Kingdom for more than 40 years, staying in the best hotels. Since August I am in contact with the Longstay Company and so far I didn’t get any further than waiting for a criminal record check. I feel I get closer to aborting the process, which would mean a loss of minimal 1,500,000 Baht for the Thai economy (90 days)

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      wai hui

      Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 9:04 am

      You are right that a minimum period stay of 90 days in effect means the targets are the retirees. However, health insurance and covid insurance are hard to get or extremely expensive for seniors, making it not possible to visit. Especially for those of us in the U.S., it’s considered “high infected area” even though we all know that the infections are much higher in China.

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    Pablo

    Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 7:00 pm

    Just don’t get the worlds and Thailand’s in particular paranoia over Covid, if it purely was able the amount of deaths in the country surely Thailand would address its appalling road traffic accident rate yet I see no plans to ban, trucks, cars or scooters. The average age of a worldwide victim falling to Covid is 82/4 years

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    Rajkumar

    Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 7:52 pm

    Want only stop testing.

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    Issan John

    Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 8:46 pm

    “701 votes for open the borders now.
    51 for keep the borders closed.
    Disappointing huh – not to me.
    And not surprising.”

    Your maths is as flawed as your comprehension, Toby.

    Votes so far:

    3% for no tourists

    8% for it’s a hoax

    33% for open borders, no quarantine, pre-arrival tests only

    47% for unspecified controlled / managed / regulated tourism (29% + 13% + 5%)

    9% for 14 days quarantine (4% + 5%)

    So that’s 33% for your “open the borders now” and 56% for controlled / managed / regulated tourism, with 14 days quarantine being the only option detailed.

    Neither surprising, nor disappointing.

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    Ray

    Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 11:28 pm

    The STV sounds attractive for me but the quarantine is too costly and there are (yet) no charters going from my country. I would be happy to stay 270 days in LOS and spent about 1000 – 1500 usd monthly. Why does the government not allocate cheaper hotels for people on such a budget? There are probably many out there for whom this could be a great opportunity to take a staycation without the hassle for visa runs. Each one would spent on average about +10.000 usd in 9 months. I am in favor of a controlled entry and don’t mind a quarantine but it must be much cheaper as it is now.

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      Issan John

      Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 12:47 pm

      You’re right, Ray, such an option would be a “great opportunity” for you – but rather less so fo the Thais.

      Spending $1,000 a month as a tourist is less than half the amount retirees are “expected” to spend and have to have here, and many of them have their own homes. It’s less than most Thai domestic tourists spend.

      Why should Thailand bother, particularly at the moment with the risk of Covid-19?

      You may have insurance to cover the cost of your own treatment if necessary, but what about the cost of treating the Thais who may be infected and their missed input to Thailand’s GDP and their families?

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        Ray

        Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 2:52 pm

        Well, I said that I would agree to a quarantine but not an expensive one. There is no risk for Thais. It is a ridiculous statement that domestic travelers would spent +10.000 usd on tourism in 9 months as many common foreigner would spent under the STV program. Just one thousand of us would bring 10 million usd which would help the local shops and hotels, not the big players. Your attitude just screams out loud that travelers who are not rich are not welcome in LOS. It has been said here numerous times, Thailand has nothing that can be compared to the Cote D’Azur or even the Caribbean, so rich people don’t bother to come here for a long period. A short stay with a 14 day quarantine is out of the question for the happy few. The real attraction in Thailand are the people and to witness their way of life. Even the rich don’t like to holed up in 5-star resorts all the time. Do you believe that anyone would come and see local people suffer because the government has no plan for them?

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          Issan John

          Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 1:09 am

          Sorry, Ray, but you CAN “compare long stay vacationers with retirees”, just as you can compare anyone else baaed on the money they spend. Why should it matter to Thailand or the Thais if a long stay vacationer has other commitments? IT’s a money making business, FFS, not a charity.

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            Ray

            Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 5:28 pm

            Have you read my post completely before commenting? I argue that just 1k long stay vacationers would probably bring in 9-13 million USD. I don’t see how you can see this as charity. Saying that Thais spent more on a daily basis when discussing long stays is BS as the ordinary Thai doesn’t take 9 month holidays in their country. At most a couple of days. Secondly, when you only allow retirees it wouldn’t make a huge difference. Most of them are already in the country and the funds that come with new arrivals are futile compared the total spending of foreigners who used to visit.

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          Issan John

          Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 1:16 am

          What do you mean “There is no risk for Thais.”? Do you think they’re immune???

          … and I’m not suggesting Thailand only target “rich tourists”, but there’s no point in Thailand targeting tourists who, on a daily basis, spend less than domestic tourists (Thais) – why bother? It makes no economic sense.

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            Ray

            Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 5:50 pm

            I meant “No risk for Thai” when the quarantine is adequate and there are enough tests. Then there should be no risk.
            OK, I spell it out for you. If one long stay foreigner spends $30 per day and a Thai $50 then you are correct if you look for a short period. But if this foreigner spends 270 (days) x $30 and this Thai spends 7 (days) x $50 in nine months to what does this equate in your world?

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        Ray

        Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 5:26 pm

        Also like to add that you can’t compare long stay vacationers with retirees. People who take a sabbatical often have ongoing costs back home as there are mortgages and several insurances. They also need to keep savings for when they return and pick up their old lives. Some are lucky to land a job immediately but that doesn’t apply to all. When we spent about 1k to 1.5k USD a month we aren’t exactly cheap Charlies. I understand the Thai sentiment to weed out the dirty unwashed farangs who haggle in places where there are fixed prices. I too find some of those deplorable. However, appearances can deceive, not every dreadlock with elephant pants is such a person. I notice that where these people hang out are some of the most welcoming places with a laidback ambience. This also attracts others with a different lifestyle too. Just take a walk in Chiang Mai. It is those little soi’s that are most pleasant for a stroll.

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          Issan John

          Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 1:04 am

          Sorry, Ray, but you CAN “compare long stay vacationers with retirees”, just as you can compare anyone else baaed on the money they spend. Why should it matter to Thailand or the Thais if a long stay vacationer has other commitments? IT’s a money making business, FFS, not a charity.

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    Tim Houston

    Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 12:28 am

    No Farang, No Satang !

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    nigel haversham

    Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 1:00 am

    Speaking as someone in the UK now, you can’t even get an appointment with a doctor these days the same as dentists, getting a covid test before travelling within that 72hr window would be difficult even if you requested a test and got the results they’d probably be out of date before you booked a flight..

    If anything is proven by the western nations, covid can’t be controlled or stopped there, if you compare the Thai covid cases to the Chinese ones per population they are probably close, only the Philippines in Asia seems to be getting hammered and they have in many cases European DNA in them from the Spanish.

    This disease is clearly targeted at non Asians judging by the clear death rates in Europe and the us vs Asia. Therefore if you open the borders the differences will be negligible in my opinion. It clearly doesn’t kill Asian populations in the same way it does westerners.

    So open the borders to everyone.

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      Issan John

      Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 12:56 pm

      I think you’re confusing “populations” and ethnicity.

      Where it has been widespread, such as in China, the fatality rate has been the same. in places like the UK it has also been the same, with some increase due to social factors (employment, etc).

      While “Asian populations” have had less cases and deaths, all the indicators are that this is due to the border controls and measures those ASEAN countries put in place, which most of the West failed to, not to any ethnic difference.

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    Yann

    Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 1:11 am

    Fermer le pays en espérant “passer à travers les gouttes” reste une illusion.. Reculer l’ouverture des frontières, c’est reculer simplement l’exposition et la gestion de l’épidémie. Résident en Polynésie francaise, nous nous sommes longtemps réjouis d’etre “COVID FREE” au moment de la première vague, cela en a même été un argument commercial touristique au moment de la réouverture des frontières qui a eu lieu ici en juillet,après plusieurs mois de fermeture.
    Résultat: le COVID s’est installé dans le pays qui gère raisonnablement l’épidémie… Fermer le pays, c’est simplement repousser l’échéance de l’épidémie. Tester avant le vol, isoler quelques jours à l’arrivée avec un second test à J4 ont été appliquées ici, cela n’a pas empeché le virus de se propager. Il faut apprendre à vivre avec, pratiquer les mesures de securité et tenter de vivre normalement…
    Combien de depressions induites, de retard de prise en charge médicale pour problème autre que COVID…. ??
    Quand on fera le bilan de cette “épidémie”, sa gestion et ses conséquences, l’addition sera lourde !!

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    Graham Walker

    Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 1:53 am

    Everything posted about gaining access to Thailand as a tourist is a laugh a day. How long ago was it that they were professing that they could test passengers at the airport on arrival and results in 90 minutes ? Every idea they come up with is a pipe dream, Thailand is sinking and nobody in any government position cares about it, they have brainwashed the nation so they are now scared sh*****s of anyone coming into the country.

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      Pat

      Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 11:43 am

      Why insurance for covid so expensive in thailand. You have to test before leaving for Thailand test when there test several times in quarantine. Then if ok let out into covid free country. So why insurance so expensive. It’s like living in the countryside and being made to get insurance for being hit by a boa

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        Issan John

        Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 1:02 pm

        It’s not expensive. While there is potentially (and probably) room for corruption, limiting the number of companies who are approved to provide insurance is simply minimising the risk, as is testing on arrival rather than pre-flight.

        It’s easy to verify if an insurance policy is valid if there are limited providers – next to impossible if any policy is accepted – all you need is PhotoShop and a printer to produce your own.

        Similarly tests – anyone with access to a laptop and printer can produce their own, which are impossible to verify, so there’s no option but to test on arrival.

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      Issan John

      Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 1:04 pm

      … and how many other countries were doing exactly the same, some of whom still are?

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    Maag

    Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 10:37 am

    Keep borders closed for covid free …..and quickly order coffin for economy !

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    WillyWally

    Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 11:29 am

    It’s a case of lives in exchange for profits. The rich are always sacrificing the poor so why not open up. The reckoning is coming worldwide for the superwealthy so their day will come soon too. They are making the guillotines as we speak.

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    Issan John

    Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 2:01 pm

    From Thailand’s (or any country’s) perspective, the pre-flight test is pretty meaningless as far as being free of Covid is concerned.

    It reduces the number who might carry Covid, as some who do get tested will cancel their flight and self-quarantine at home instead, but realistically it’s so easy to fake that anyone can do it and it’s impossible to verify as there are no international or even international databases allowing access.

    The tests have to be done in and after arrival to be valid and acceptable – there’s no way round that. That’s the first problem.

    The second problem is that the virus has an incubation period during which none of the current tests can detect it; for 50% of people that’s under seven days, and for 99% it’s under 14 days, hence the 14 day quarantine period.

    The third problem is that the quarantine has to be strict for the entire period – easing off, with a “7 + 7” option negates the whole point of the quarantine, as those who are contagious will still be contagious but they’ll simply have more people to pass the virus on to, including hotel staff who aren’t quarantined at all. The danger then is that even if one individual is detected at, say, the 11, 12 13 or 14 day point and kept in quarantine for a further 14 days they could have already infected others who won’t show up at their 14 day point so they’ll be allowed to leave and they’ll then contaminate others, and so on.

    Cambodia gets round this by quarantining a whole flight in a “state approved facility” if just one person on it proves positive, then continuing to quarantine for subsequent 14 day periods until all are clear. Fine for those on it if all are clear, although all have to self-quarantine for 14 days anyway, but a massive risk of cases getting through and passing on the virus, and a risk to those on it as they could easily end up being quarantined for not just 14 days but 28 or more.

    The more quarantine is relaxed, the less chance there is of it being effective. In New Zealand they had to change the rules as initially those quarantined put their own trash in a bin in the hotel corridor, as that was thought to be safer; that led to 26 known cases of Covid-19 that were traced back to the plastic lid on the bin. In China, one returnee obeyed all the rules and self-isolated in her flat, but she led to 70 cases as when she went up to her flat (alone) she pressed the elevator button and that was contaminated.

    There simply isn’t any other effective option if you want to effectively minimise Covid-19 coming in and spreading, as not just Thailand but all countries in ASEAN have realised – Thailand isn’t the only one with border restrictions, despite the impression given by some here. Some ASEAN countries have slightly less restrictions, but most have considerably more.

    There’s no other effective option – it’s as simple as that.

    The choice, then, is to sacrifice the foreign tourism industry or to sacrifice Thais to Covid-19 – it’s one or the other …

    … but it’s far from as simple as just the lives that would be lost, as you have to factor in the lost production in the factories as those with Covid-19 or in contact have to self-quarantine, and who pays them during that quarantine; the thousands of lottery sellers, for example, who wouldn’t be able to sell tickets outside their home province as they’d have to self-quarantine on return as they did a few months ago, so putting them all out of a job; the loss of domestic tourism as Thais couldn’t travel safely within their own country; the loss of education as schools and universitie are forced to close, as they still are in the West, but with on-line learning an impossibility for many here … the list goes on.

    It’s one or the other – foreign tourism or Thais, but it’s far from just about the Thais who are vulnerable or elderly as many here like to suggest but about all Thais.

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      Toby Andrews

      Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 11:42 pm

      Why don’t you just write you do not want any foreigners in and be done with it, instead of writing all these flimsy excuses not to let foreigners in.
      What do you want to be? The only foreigner in the north east?
      Want to be queen bee do you?

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        Kris Neomi Erkiletian

        Monday, October 12, 2020 at 9:07 am

        I dont think Issan John said anything about not wanting foreigners. He said everything about protecting people in Thailand. From a logical or scientific perspective his points are correct.

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          Issan John

          Monday, October 12, 2020 at 12:06 pm

          Thank you.

          It’s not just about protecting people’s lives, athough that’s a prime factor. Some people here are writing as if the tourism industry is the only part of the economy affected by Covid-19, so “opening the borders” will solve everything.

          They’re completely ignoring that whatever the GDP gains from tourism will be lost as factories and industries have to close or reduce production due to the numbers not just quarantining from Covid-19 but those quarantining because they’ve been in contact with those from Covid-19.

          They’re ignoring that schools and universities will have to close, just as they are having to in the West, and that Thailand isn’t in a position to give students on-line learning.

          It isn’t as simple as just tourism vs lives, although that’s bad enough.

          That cinems, bars, restauants and gymnasiums will all have to close, just as they are in the West.

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            Kris

            Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 4:42 am

            Again valid and wise points. I think many of the outspoken folks here are far over focused on the Tourism Industry without consideration of the inter-connections with all other segments of the national economy. I also think they are far too focused on what benefits or affects them directly over what is best for the country as a whole. I encourage Thailand to act toward the best long term interests of the Thai people and allies over the desires of those who only experience Thailand within a limited and generally leisure-oriented scope.

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    Thai Elite-ish

    Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 11:01 pm

    I’ve spent over $80,000 stuck overseas now, money I’m sure the Thai economy could benefit from… if by December Thai Elite visa holders aren’t permitted to return to the kingdom I’ll be selling my property and never looking back, so will thousands of other wealthy expats and the economy will bleed all the more, the only difference? It won’t be my problem

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      Issan John

      Monday, October 12, 2020 at 12:08 pm

      So what’s your solution?

      … and Thai Elite visa holders ARE allowed to return to Thailand, and some already have done, making your point rather moot.

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        Noneya Bidnizz

        Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 12:51 am

        Yeah , Elite Visa holders are allowed now — VERY FEW have managed to jump thru all the hoops to do so , around 50 at last count — My Guess as To who they might be ?? — The ones with the biggest and fattest Brown Envelopes and most probably all chinese !!!! —

        Go Kung Flu !!!

        Maybe , The “ WeSkru U2 Flu“ ?

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      J West

      Monday, October 12, 2020 at 12:50 pm

      Selling to whom? Elitish….consider the tens of thousands of Farang in your position to compete with. Condos and houses nationwide coming up for sale as new stringent financial requirement will force sales by retirees now excluded. And it’s fine to think there’s time to wait for the perfect buyer but….real estate is valued by life’s imperfect circumstances, there will be forced sales, divorce sales, bankruptcy sales, court ordered sales, estate sales all subject to market forces. Which in a crowded market….means lower prices…much lower prices.

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        Noneya Bidnizz

        Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 12:12 am

        EXACTLY What the Junta and Their Chinese masters have planned !
        Not Just Farang expats , That goes for the Real Thai too , the 98% will also lose their Homes and Businesses— As the 2% Get Fatter and Richer.

        What a SHAME for the REAL Thai People , But , TiT — Screw the Farang for EVERY BAHT THEY GOT — As Usual — And Might as Well Steal from the General Population while You`re at it
        Prayut & Company !

        —- I Pray For Thailand and Her People —–

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    Issan John

    Monday, October 12, 2020 at 4:41 pm

    Odd that despite all this talk of a bleeding ecomomy the baht’s still as strong ever …..

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      Noneya Bidnizz

      Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 12:37 am

      NOT TRUE Issan —-

      When I was There last October , Exchange rate was 30 THB to 1 USD

      I Just checked ( 10/12/2020) Current rate is 31.150 THB to 1 USD

      You should GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE POSTING NONSENCE !

      And Maybe QUIT listening to Lies and Junta Propaganda and Fear Mongering .

      But , Dont worry , After the Junta and The Sino Thai HI-SO masters steal everything from Farang Stranded in other countries who cannot stop them now , They WILL Come for What ( If anything ) You Have worked for too ! —- Then , It`s on To the REAL Thai People —Unless The Lying Thieves in ILLEGAL Control are FINALLY Stopped –

      —- I Pray For Thailand , I miss The Beautiful Lady She once was not so long ago . —-

      I also Pray That the Thai Youth can Take back THEIR Country BEFORE it is Too Late .

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        Issan John

        Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 2:42 pm

        Sorry, but it’s 100% true and anything but “NONSENCE”, so maybe it’s you that should “GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT”.

        February – March year (pre-Covid) it was 31.5 to the US$. Now, as you say, it’s 31.1.
        Against the Euro it was 35.5, now it’s 36.5.
        Against the £ it was 40.5, with a Brexit spike in March and June, now it’s still 40.5.

        Sorry but “despite all this talk of a bleeding ecomomy the baht’s still as strong ever ….” “FACT”, however those with an axe to grind unconnected with Covid-19 may not like it.

        ( https://www.exchangerates.org.uk/USD-THB-exchange-rate-history.html )

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      Mike

      Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 11:33 am

      Which is disastrous for the Thai economy as two of the biggest contributors to GDP are tourism and exports – exports from manufacturing and agriculture, feeders of exports.

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        Issan John

        Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 2:48 pm

        Agreed, Mike, but that’s how the Baht is, and it’s floating freely and not up to the government.

        International tourism is unlikely to return to normal anywhere for some time due to Covid, so in many ways a falling baht as a result of political instability and the drop in the tourist industry would be a massive bonus for Thailand’s manufacturing and agricultural sector.

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    Al

    Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    The W.H.O. themselves graciously admitting the truth of the matter all those good people out there who aren’t easily fooled …..

    https://off-guardian.org/2020/10/08/who-accidentally-confirms-covid-is-no-more-dangerous-than-flu/

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