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Thailand’s Covid-19 task force to debate quarantine reduction proposal tomorrow, again

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After deciding in last week’s meeting to continue on with the mandatory 14 day quarantine, the issue of a reduction from 14 days to 10, is back on the table.

The Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration will meet tomorrow to discuss a proposal, again, to reduce mandatory quarantine from 14 days to 10, for arrivals from low-risk countries. But, again, a number of leading Thai medics are warning against the move, saying it could cause an uncontrollable spike in virus numbers.

Despite the Department of Disease Control and the Ministry of Public Health backing the proposal, some doctors say it could potentially result in up to 700 cases a day. They are urging officials to wait until an effective vaccine is available, which it’s hoped could be within the next 6 months.

The Pattaya News reports that Public Health Minister, Anutin Charnvirakul, says that he understands the doctors’ concerns, but believes them to be unfounded, reminding them that the reduction would only apply to people coming from countries considered low-risk.

Addressing the proposal from Thai travel agents that the country be re-opened to Chinese tourists from 22 low-risk provinces, the Health Ministry says the matter is still under discussion and a final decision is yet to be made.

While China currently has a ban on organised tour groups travelling overseas, this does not apply to individual Chinese travellers, who are allowed to leave the country.

SOURCE: The Pattaya News

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    Roland Nystad

    November 17, 2020 at 12:58 pm

    When I am arriving Thailand, I have already 72 h negative convid 19 test,and 16 hour of travel, then I have to take 2 more test (hopefully) negative,then 15 night i quaranten hotel, that makes nearly 19 days,,,,,,, I am from a very low risk country,What is the point,,,,, If Thai goverment test 100 000 persons in Bangkok , they will be supriced of al the corona they will find,,,,, the Fahrang is not the risk, the risk is that it is no mandatary test of the population in general ..

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      Timothy L Smith

      November 18, 2020 at 11:37 pm

      It is not that difficult to figure this out. The Thai government can come up with any plan they want and foolishly count on domestic tourism to cover some of the international tourism. From what I hear from most I talk to about this, is forget going to Thailand. I would think NO one is going to Thailand as long as you have to waste the majority of your stay in Thailand on quarantine. 14 days or 10 days is not going to matter. Even 4 days for some is too much to waste time with Thailand right now. If anyone in the Thai government would wake up and realize, sure if you open tourism the Covid 19 infections would rise, but what is the alternative? No businesses, no food, no home, no livelihood. With chances of getting over the virus at 95%, protect yourself, stay clear of large crowds, wear your mask and wash you hands frequently, let the virus run it’s course instead of letting your country collapse. what is worse?

      Also, this high risk, low risk country rating! Every country in the world is high risk if you are standing next to some one that has the virus. No one is fooled by your Thai government initiatives. The Chinese started all this and they are all of a sudden given special considerations for entering Thailand. Sounds like money and a method to control the population to me and not concern for the Thai people. I don’t know if there is any country without the virus. So if China is not considered a high risk country, how can any other country be considered high risk. Is there anyone in the Thai government that can see past their wallet?

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      Issan John

      November 19, 2020 at 8:47 pm

      RN, it’s a nice thought, but it’s impossible to do a “mandatary test of the population in general”.

      The UK can’t even manage a test of one small city or its university students.

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    AI

    November 17, 2020 at 2:21 pm

    Yes, Roland. But don’t expect that to occur anywhere in Siam.

    Reality is something you can rely on and that just might expose a few of them.

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      Paul

      November 17, 2020 at 3:48 pm

      I imagine before Covid that Thai people can enter your country without visa as easy as you can enter Thailand? However there are not many thai people who like to establish themself or work abroad. What is the risk? What is doing your superior country?
      Just think that they have practically no cases. Not enough tests? Sure but do you really think that there is a comparable epidemic here as in the US or in Europe? If yes WHO is wrong but fortunately you are not.

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    Nipral

    November 17, 2020 at 2:25 pm

    Don’t waste your time kids ! 10 days is as bad as 14 !. None will come.
    Keep starving, despite the gigantic flow of money spent by your 41 Chinese tourists 😂😂😂
    So funny to read your news !

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      Paul

      November 17, 2020 at 3:50 pm

      Not a lot will come as before even with no quarantaine and that is a good thing.
      But tenths of thousands of retired people will come to see their family after waiting almost a year!

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      Patrick Kelly

      November 17, 2020 at 9:49 pm

      Truer words have never been spoken !

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        Tony

        November 18, 2020 at 8:11 am

        You cannot say covid free forever , thailand needs tourists to survive. 2021 will be worse to all hotels and the red light district. Open borders with rapid covid tests etc

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    Jason

    November 17, 2020 at 2:27 pm

    What happened to the “Public Concern” that shelved this idea in a Thaiger article two days ago? The point I made two days ago is now proven.

    No plan by the Thai Government or any other government will ever work if it is not formulated in concert with other countries. Here’s an idea with no pride of authorship. Get on a zoom meeting with other low risk countries that can fly to each other without the need to transit in a high risk country. PCR test 72 hours prior to departure. Rapid test on arrival if negative, free to stay and explore. Positive test on arrival. Quarantine for 14 days or return to country of origin.

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    Mike Frenchie

    November 17, 2020 at 7:40 pm

    Nobody will come with either 10 or 14 days… Chinese and Korean will keep the two weeks quarantine on the way back!
    Chinese have between 7-10 holidays/year… Lol – these guys will NEVER come!

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    billy

    November 17, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    PCR tests are faulty and doesn’t work..
    and also you got to be a complete fool to take the RNA vaccine which will give you MS.

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    Alex

    November 19, 2020 at 2:17 am

    So, the Thaiger refuses to publish my articles (evidence) and comments about the entire sham of lockdowns, social distancing, testing, quarantines, facemasks, and what not. Goes to show which side you people are on. I’m not surprised though. No backbone at all, merely sheep walking in line.

    Goodbye and good riddance!

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      Issan John

      November 19, 2020 at 8:49 pm

      Goodbye.

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    Ron

    November 19, 2020 at 12:46 pm

    This is all about hotels at the moment.The only way most of them will make any money is through ASQ. I have no doubt they have influence in high places.

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A 29 year old female Thai returnee from Myanmar has tested positive for Covid in Chiang Mai, after visiting the hospital with flu-like symptoms. She was the only local case reported, out of 5 other positive tests, with officials saying she is believed to have contracted the virus in Myanmar. The positive test on November 27, came after she was out and about, with authorities saying 326 people are suspected of coming in contact with the woman. The woman reportedly visited a mall to eat Japanese shabu, watched a movie, visited a karaoke bar, and used public transportation before her positive diagnosis.

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