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Police at Bangkok’s Thong Lor station have set up what they say is a “new style” of checkpoints in response to complaints saying drivers were forced to pay police officers. Along with new rules to prevent corruption and bribery, the officers also need to be “polite.”

The Thong Lor police station has accumulated a reputation over recent decades. It was also the police station in the middle of the early investigation into the ‘Boss’ Yoovidhya hit-and-run case. The policeman killed was from the Thong Lor station.

Officers at the checkpoints will need to show their badges and tell the driver what the their name is as well as their commander’s name. Under the new regulations, they also need to be polite. The National Police Chief Suwat Jangyosuk says the new measures are “transparent” and boost the standards at checkpoints. Thong Lor is the first police station to implement the new rules.

The new measures and push for transparency comes after complaints of police taking money from drivers passing through checkpoints. It’s safe to say that police bribes are not uncommon in Thailand. Many travel websites and blogs warn about police corruption in Thailand, some offer tips on how to deal with police.

Just the other day, an officer in Pathum Thani’s Thanyaburi district was caught on camera allegedly taking a bribe from someone driving through the police checkpoint. After the video of the truck driver handing the officer 100 baht was shared on Facebook, the provincial police chief Chayut Marayat told the district chiefs to make sure officers “behave appropriately.”

SOURCE: Nation Thailand

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    Pedro

    November 5, 2020 at 8:44 pm

    For me, fixed point static checkpoints are so old fashioned and they not actually considered as real policing by many professionals as they are manly concerned with checking documentation and anyone can do it. They are also a wasteful use of resources, as it takes so many officers to effectively run such a checkpoint. I think that the only time a form of static check point should be used is when a known or defined target is believed to be heading their way as part of a pre-planned operational response to a particular kind of incident. Even then, traffic should be allowed to flow as the target is identifiable and therefore can be observed approaching and safely stopped. Otherwise checkpoints are just ‘fishing expeditions’ creating the perfect conditions where a corrupt official can extort money or favours from the public. Surely Traffic Policing is all about ensuring road safety. Identifying instances of dangerous driving, preventing or stopping speeding or any other vehicular offences cannot be detected whilst the vehicles and drivers concerned are stationary at a checkpoint. Criminals will always avoid known checkpoints anyway.

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      Issan John

      November 6, 2020 at 10:28 am

      Agreed, Pedro, but to be fair, at least in the province where I live and neighbouring provinces, the police haven’t used “fixed point static checkpoints” for several years and there are no permanent checkpoints, although they do always tend to be in the same places and often in the vicinity of a police station. They’re also nearly always set up in conjunction with speed cameras a couple of kms away, calling speedsters through to the checkpoint.

      That may well not apply elsewhere, though, particularly around Bangkok – I don’t know.

      Criminals can certainly aviod many of the checkpoints, though, not only because of the repeated use of “favourite” locations but because there are a number of easily available apps showing locations of operating checkpoints – probably not as easy to police as Pornhub!

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    rr

    November 5, 2020 at 9:08 pm

    100 baht bribe… they must be quite desperate…

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    Francis

    November 5, 2020 at 10:03 pm

    This is fantastic step forward, never thought I would read this. Great news.

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      Issan John

      November 6, 2020 at 11:25 am

      I’m not as confident of it making any difference as you are.

      I’ve always found the traffic police to be “polite” even when asking for a contribution, and previously changing the system so that one or two police cars could no longer set up a snap check point as all check points have to have at least a police Captain present made little difference other than to make the check points larger but fewer.

      I just can’t see that most drivers are going to ask police for their names when stopped, or make a note of them, unless they were going to make a complaint which very few do or will do. Even when given a genuine (recorded) fine and a ticket the offences are often spurious and contrived, as the system is that the policeman giving the ticket gets 95% of the fine, although there’s a delay and a proportion goes to the station hence a frequent preference for “cash payment”.

      The one thing that I’ve found makes a difference is having a dash cam fitted, which is only common sense now anyway given how cheap they are (under 500 baht). We have three: one for the rear, fixed, one fixed for the front, and a third on the passenger’s side that can be swivelled round to point at the driver’s window. Since fitting them we always get either waved through or a very cursory check.

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    Khun plastic

    November 6, 2020 at 1:04 am

    Id give it a while to see how quickly and widley the changes are implemented.

    I’d be very pleasantly surprised if this long running annoyance suddenly stopped over night.

    The boys in brown are so used to shaking down poor locals for an orange and rich falangs/ hiso thais for a purple that I feel it is unlikely they will be willing to give up such a nice little tax free earner easily or quickly.

    In these very difficult times for all I could perhaps seeing them giving a bit of discount for a while as a good will gesture.
    long term I feel it will be business as usual.

    Harley Davidsons and mia noi’s don’t come cheap as your average officer is very well aware. T.I.T.

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      Issan John

      November 6, 2020 at 11:43 am

      I can’t see it changing for the BIB as long as corruption continues to be endemic elsewhere. It’s one thing to say that they should set a higher standard, but it’s unrealistic when they see it as routine everywhere else from the Electrical Authority to the Army.

      To be effective, the whole system needs a re-think, not just the BIB – they’re just the most identifiable example.

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    Jack

    November 6, 2020 at 1:43 am

    Well considering the roads are completely unpoliced, I don’t see the roads any more dangerous here than in states, many things and ways of driving make more sense here because people are quite free to do what they want. Most people actually drive too slow for me. Lol.

    In usa where things are heavily patrolled. Texting and driving is dangerous. Everyone does it.

    As a farang, $3, $6 $9 $12 $15.. sometimes nothing.. doesn’t bother me. Its much more expensive in the states to get 1 ticket, than it is to get 10 here. They’re not hard to avoid either one you know where they are.

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    Toby Andrews

    November 6, 2020 at 9:49 am

    If the police are so keen to make money they should enforce the parking laws.
    Westminster council in London make more money on parking fines than they do from property taxes.

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      Issan John

      November 6, 2020 at 12:08 pm

      Fair point. The only time I see it applied and vehicles clamped is in front of the provincial hospital – which is next to a police sub-station.

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Caitlin Ashworth is a writer from the United States who has lived in Thailand since 2018. She graduated from the University of South Florida St. Petersburg with a bachelor’s degree in journalism and media studies in 2016. She was a reporter for the Daily Hampshire Gazette In Massachusetts. She also interned at the Richmond Times-Dispatch in Virginia and Sarasota Herald-Tribune in Florida.

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The hashtag #รถติด, (traffic jam), was among Twitter’s top 3 trending hashtags this morning as Bangkok motorists battled congestion caused by the police’s attempts to block protesters from the Crown Property Bureau.

First they used small portable metal barricades, then razor wire, then concrete blocks, then old buses. Now they’re going for the heavy “blockade” artillery – steel shipping containers. Officers secured the roads surrounding the Crown Property Bureau with the containers as barriers, which in turn caused traffic jams in the capital, despite confirmation that the protest location had changed. Photos of the containers put in place to act as makeshift barriers were widely shared on social media.

Last night, protest leaders confirmed the location of today’s rally has shifted from the Crown Property Bureau to the headquarters of the Siam Commercial Bank in the Chatuchak district of the capital. Activists say this is to avoid clashes with rival royalist groups who they claim are being sent to confront them. The Free Youth Movement posted confirmation of the new location on social media at around 10.30pm last night.

“Breaking: The November 25 rally will take place at SCB headquarters! This move is to avoid clashing with an organised mob and avoid playing the tyrant’s game. Meet us there at 3pm to claim back the property that should have been the people’s.”

The change of venue has thrown the police into confusion as they’d already shipped in up to 6,000 police to assist with “crowd control” around the Crown Property Bureau buildings.

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Protest leaders from the United Front for Thammasat and Demonstration and the Free Youth Movement have confirmed that the location of today’s planned rally in Bangkok has been changed to the headquarters of Siam Commercial Bank. The protest had been due to take place at the Crown Property Bureau at 3.00pm.

SCB is a Thai bank that was set up under the auspices of the Crown Property Bureau. Thailand’s King Maha Vajiralongkorn is the largest single shareholder, owning 23.35% of SCB shares. The bank has announced that its head office, located at the Ratchayothin intersection in the Chatuchak district of the capital, will be closed today.

Leaders from both protest groups say someone will be available at the Democracy Monument to update activists who may not have heard about the change of location. They say the decision to change location was taken to avoid clashes with royalist groups who planned to confront them at the CPB.

Thai PBS World reports that earlier this morning, the Free Youth Movement posted a video on social media, in which they discuss, “the failed Thai state” and how the police do not make them feel safe.

“Under this state, people are ruled by capitalists, military and feudalists who wretchedly write the laws.”

Earlier, police had warned protesters to stay away from the planned rally site at the Crown Property Bureau. Over 6,000 officers are on duty to deal with any potential unrest, including reinforcements from provinces beyond Bangkok.

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UPDATE: The protesters have moved the location of today’s protests to the the headquarters of SCB (Siam Commercial Bank). SCB is a Thai bank that was set up under the auspices of the Crown Property Bureau. Thailand’s King Maha Vajiralongkorn is the largest single shareholder, owning 23.35% of SCB shares.

ORIGINAL STORY: Stay away. That’s the orders from police as protesters are set to rally outside the Crown Property Bureau. Demonstrators will be required to stay at least 150 metres away from the building in Phitsanulok Road. It is the first protest to put the issues of HM the King’s wealth, and the role of the Thai Monarch in the Thai constitution, front and centre as the main focus.

A record 6,000 police have been mobilised to handle the expected large crowd. Additional police have been shipped in from the provinces to bolster security for today’s rally. They will be enforcing the “public assembly law” and require protesters to stay at least 150 metres away from the symbolic buildings. Army re-inforcements are also on hand, according to an Army spokesperson.

Last week the Thai PM said the government and police would use the “full force of the law” to arrest and charge protesters if they transgressed, including the country’s else majesty laws. The latter seems an almost certain outcome of today’s protests. The list of the protester’s demands – for the Thai PM to resign, the dissolution of the government, a new constitution and reform of the role of the Thai Monarch – are at odds with the Thai “establishment”, the conservative Prayut government and Army.

Police have already secured the area, blocking off entry to the Crown Property Bureau. 8 days ago there were ugly scene outside the Thai Parliament when police clashed with anti-government protesters who were trying to get to the front of the building to conduct their protest. A smaller gathering of pro-government/royalist protesters were also conducting a rally earlier in the day.

Mid afternoon, the police retreated after the anti-government protesters stormed their barricades, despite the police turning water cannons and tear gas on them, allowing the two factions to go at each other for a short time, hurling objects including bricks and rocks at each other. There were also live rounds fired at pro-democracy demonstrators – police say they’re still investigating the circumstances of the firing of guns during the melee.

Deputy PM Prawit Wongsuwon also warned royalists groups to avoid mounting a counter-demonstration against the planned anti-government rally yesterday.

“Authorities will ensure there is no confrontation between the two rival groups. Police have been instructed to keep an eye on so-called third-party activists who might try to instigate violence.”

The young, tech-savvy anti-government protesters have shown their capacity to change their plans and locations at extremely short notice with the use of encrypted messaging that has thwarted attempts by Thai police to second-guess the plans of the protest groups.

A deputy spokesman of the Royal Thai Police said yesterday that neither the Ratsadon (People’s Movement) or the Free Youth group had approached police seeking permission to hold today’s rally.

“While the right to hold rallies was guaranteed by the constitution, demonstrators must adhere to the public assembly law by asking for police approval at least 24 hours in advance. Their rallies must also be peaceful and not infringe on others’ rights.”

Nearby Saint Gabriel’s College, Suan Sunandha Rajabhat University and Suan Dusit University are closed today because the planned demonstration and roads around the CPB will be closed to traffic. Classes will resume tomorrow.

According to the Bangkok Post, a new group, Siam Land, announced yesterday that they will mount a counter rally at the CPB to “stop the Free Youth protesters from going there”.

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