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Criticism over bad English lesson in Thai online class

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Thai schools are pushing for online learning to slow the spread of the coronavirus, but a recent English lesson posted online is just proof that basic English levels remain poor in the country. The video of a Thai teacher with poor pronunciation spread across the internet, with some saying she should be a student rather than a teacher.

The teacher went back and forth from Thai to English for some of the lesson, but when she spoke in English, much of it was unintelligible. The Pathom 6 class was recorded for Distance Learning TV, or DLTV, with a live class. Many students seemed to stare blankly during the lesson. Even a native English speaker can’t understand much of what she’s saying.

On the Thai Visa thread, some people say that the teacher tried her best to speak English, adding that many foreigners spend years in Thailand and cannot speak Thai. Others rebutted, saying that while she’s trying her best, she’s teaching a language to students and “should get it right”.

People on social media have gone back and forth about the teacher’s video. But some say the teacher is being bullied and came out with the hashtag #saveครูวัง.

กุว่ามันไม่ใช่เรื่องของaccentนะมันเป็นเรื่องของpronunciation กุดูมีความรู้มะ จริงๆที่จะบอกคือมันเป็นแบบนี้อ่อ มันคันหูนะ

Posted by Ploy Wongphon on Sunday, 17 May 2020

(The Thaiger thinks a lot of the criticism is unwarranted as most of her English was ‘OK’, albeit with a Thai accent)

SOURCES: Nation Thailand | Thai Visa

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    Mario

    Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 3:52 pm

    Shameless people with many degrees might comment like that.W

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      Seattle2k

      Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 5:15 am

      Might comment, like what?

      Not sure how she got her TEFL/TESOL certificate

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    Alan Lockhart

    Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 7:39 am

    Nothing new here my kids go to Thai school and learn English and they say the teacher does not know how to speak properly lucky my kids learn from me and their English is very good being half farung helps maybe when they are old enough they can teach proper English in schools

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    Belly

    Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 7:46 am

    Most of “native english speakers” cannot speak any
    another language and their “english” is far away from any formal teaching standards.
    Keep calm and STFU 🙂

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    Terry Spence

    Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 9:25 am

    Having taught over 20 years at elementary through college in Canada, I attest that the majority of my foreign students knew a better English than a high percentage of natural born English speakers! In China while attending a function, the Senior English Teacher was addressing a room of young Chinese teachers. They turned to me asking if I could clarify what was being said. I replied that I was unable to comprehend even half of what he was saying. In China and Mexico I rely on a native speaker teacher, I respect the effort and difficulty it is to teach in a foreign and although comfortable with French and Spanish tones/ phonetics, Asian tones are exceptionally difficult. I comment her for her effort, keep at it.

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    Barry

    Friday, May 22, 2020 at 6:59 am

    The sad thing is Thailand is bursting at the seams with native English speakers (retirees) but they aren’t allowed to work for some reason. Just expose the kids to native english speakers often enough and the kids will pick it up. And no, these English speakers don’t need to have education degrees or even four-year college degrees. Most kids learn their L1 from their parents, who may have only basic schooling, and yet the kids pick up the language and become fluent in it.

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    James

    Friday, May 22, 2020 at 1:34 pm

    The lady is doing as best she can, the people who employ her should be the ones being criticized. One thing for sure, i would never take Thai lessons from an English person.

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    Doc

    Friday, May 22, 2020 at 2:04 pm

    As a native English speaker who teaches bachelor through doctoral degree students at a Thai university, this instructor’s English is suitable for the grade she is teaching. Should she be able to converse with native speakers, her accent will become less pronounced.

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    terry

    Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 10:56 pm

    That teacher should take an English course….lol..

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Caitlin Ashworth is a writer from the United States who has lived in Thailand since 2018. She graduated from the University of South Florida St. Petersburg with a bachelor’s degree in journalism and media studies in 2016. She was a reporter for the Daily Hampshire Gazette In Massachusetts. She also interned at the Richmond Times-Dispatch in Virginia and Sarasota Herald-Tribune in Florida.

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Police have yet to investigate illegal hiring of foreign teachers at international school in Phuket

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Chalong police in Phuket say they have yet to start investigating the illegal hiring of foreign teachers at an international school in Rawai, south of the island. Palm House International School allegedly hired foreign teachers illegally in which 2 were arrested by Phuket Immigration police on November 4.

Somkiet Sarasin, the leading investigator of the case, says the 2 Brits were informed that police were processing a charge of working illegally in the country against them, in which both denied the charges. Somkiet says the 2 were released on bail, but did not confirm the amount of bail that was set by the police.

“They are still staying in Thailand. I am not worried. I have their passports. I am not available to explain [any details] because the investigation is still ongoing.”

“This is normal for an investigation when the suspects deny the charge against them. I have to check more information against their claims. This case will probably be concluded next month.”

However, the investigation has yet to begin, with Somkiet saying he has not even questioned the owner of the school, despite his claims the case would be finished next month.

“The investigation into the school will take time. The investigation into the two British people must be finished first.”

Such allegations of foreign teachers working illegally have recently been in the news after Sarasas Witaed Sainoi Pitiyakarn School, in the central province of Nonthaburi, saw 7 foreign teachers probed for being hired illegally. That school, along with others in its private network, made nationwide news after CCTV caught a Thai teacher hitting, pushing and dragging a young student in the classroom. Such widespread violence against students has long been a sad component of many Thai schools, in which some of the teachers are unqualified and unlicensed to teach, but are hired anyway.

SOURCE: The Phuket News

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“Bad Medical Student” group takes to Twitter to discuss downfalls of medical industry in Thailand

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A new group, inspired by the Bad Student protesters, has taken to naming itself Bad Medical Students, as it stormed Twitter to reveal the downfalls of studying medicine in Thailand. The hashtag #นักศึกษาแพทย์เลว (Bad Medical Student), has now gained over 86,000 Tweets after the Assistant Dean of the Faculty of Medicine at Chiang Mai university encouraged the group to voice their take on the industry. Dr. Manoch Chokchamsai, posted on his Facebook page:

“Let’s hear some noise from the Bad Medical Students. Talk about the things the [medical] faculty wouldn’t want to hear.”

The message gained over 670 comments and was shared by 3,400 people on Facebook. Now, it is the top trending topic on Twitter, prompting many medical students, interns and residents to expose what they say is the toxic work culture in the Thai medical industry. Such allegations range from sexual harrassment, abusive workloads, verbal and emotional abuse, gender discrimination and many more. One Twitter user says she was discriminated against because she was a woman.

“Some professors treat med students with double standards. The management was the same, but I was verbally abused and looked down upon because I am not a man… yep.”

“I was screamed at by a medical staff right in the middle of the ward and told to go jump off a building and kill myself. I didn’t, because I didn’t want to die and just didn’t want to see their face.”

“We should not be romanticizing working beyond human powers as sacrifice, such as being on call for 24 hours and working for another right. This practice is probably held at every hospital, because I have witnessed it everywhere.”

Thailand’s medical education industry has long been rumoured to be toxic, but the issue has never been publicly addressed apart from news reports that have shone a light into what happens behind closed doors, which has prompted some students, residents, and interns to take their own lives.

SOURCE: Thai Enquirer

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The King to give royal land title deeds valued at 10 billion baht to universities

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King Vajiralongkorn is set to give royal land title deeds worth 10 billion baht, to 2 universities and 2 schools today in a ceremony at Bangkok’s Dusit Palace. The title deeds cover more than 100 rai of land along the Ratchawithi Road in Dusit district. Suan Sunandha Rajabhat University will receive deeds that cover 60 rai, while Suan Dusit University will receive deeds that cover more than 37 rai.

Anek Laothamatas, the Higher Education, Science, Research and Innovation Minister, says he and the university presidents will have an audience at the handover ceremony with the King and Queen at Ambara Villa in Dusit Palace. Rachawinit School, an elementary school, and Rajavinit Mathayom School, a secondary school, will also receive the deeds according to Anek.

The land on which the universities are located has an estimated value around 100 million baht per rai. There is almost 100 rai in the deed.

The lands where the universities are located were originally part of Dusit palace, but after the 1932 revolution that saw the monarchy change from absolute to constitutional, some of the land was used for educational institutions. The land where Dusit Zoo was located, which was closed on September 30, 2018, amidst a relocation venture to Pathum Thani’s Thanyaburi district, will now be used to build a public hospital.

Other land that has been repurposed includes the Royal Turf Club of Thailand’s racecourse, which will now be transformed into a public park commemorating His Majesty King Bhumibol Adulyadej. The land was returned in 2018 to the Crown Property Burea, after featuring the racecourse for 102 years. Such land under the Crown Property Burea was originally allocated to building the Grand Palace, when King Rama I had it built. It was later that the royal residences expanded to the Dusit Zoo and racecourse, as well as the universities that are now situated on it.

The Suan Dusit University president, Sirote Phonphanthin, says the land where the university sits is owned by the Crown Property Bureau, which was originally owned by King Rama V. He says the university is grateful that the King attached so much importance to education. Sirote also said that he was told by the Royal Household Bureau that the King did not intend on keeping the land title deeds, rather, he wanted to give them to the universities.

The director of Rachawinit School, Supornrat Sattacthanachaiphat, agrees that the handover of the deeds was great news. The school was originally established in 1966 to educate the palace officials’ children.

SOURCE: Bangkok Post

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