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PM to host Covid task force meeting as officials say no plans for national lockdown

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PM Prayut Chan-o-cha will host a special meeting of the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration today, to debate potential additional disease prevention measures. Having seemingly gone months without a case of community transmission, Thailand finds itself in the grip of a sudden Covid-19 outbreak, linked to illegal migrants.

Officials are currently insisting there is no talk of a nationwide lockdown, although a number of provinces have imposed their own versions. Provincial officials in Samut Sakhon, centre of the outbreak, have declared the province a “quarantine area” until January 3. All sports stadia, parks, schools and other educational institutions are shut. Restaurants can only offer a takeaway service, while grocery shops must remain closed between the hours of 10pm and 5am.

Meanwhile, the neighbouring provinces of Samut Songkram and Samut Prakan have both gone into lockdown until January 4, closing all public spaces and cancelling New Year celebrations and other events. The northern province of Chiang Mai has imposed a lockdown on the 3 sub-districts of Tha Ton, Malika, and Mae Ai.

Today’s meeting of the CCSA will debate the introduction of tougher restrictions, aimed at combatting any further spread of the Covid-19 virus. There has been no indication of what these measures might look like but, in response to social media rumours and speculation, officials insist a national lockdown is not on the agenda.

SOURCE: The Pattaya News | Nation Thailand

 

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    Ipaddressfunnycolors

    Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 11:07 am

    Here’s an idea… educate the eldery to be careful, encourage them to stay at home. And let’s remind everyone, only ????% of the population will be affected similar to the flu and mostly old people.

    Indoor dining, nightclubs have always been slight vectors for disease and they should remain open.

    Let nye celebrations commence…

    Let’s remind people we have effective treatments now that we didn’t have 1 year ago.

    Let’s remind people lock downs will hurt far more people than they save.

    Lets remind people to remain calm. Its going to be ok.

    Lets remind people it is ok to get sick, our bodies were designed for this over 100,000 of years.

    If you’re sick, stay home.

    Let’s remind people, most people will be asymptomatic and while they can spread covid, its not as great of threat as we once thought it was.

    Let’s remind people further spread of covid is inevitable lock down or not, and it will be ok.

    Let’s remind people Thailand has some of the best Healthcare systems and doctors in the entire world and that we can handle this.

    Let’s remind people everything will be ok and we should begin opening the borders without quarantine. Lol.

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      Issan John

      Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 12:46 pm

      Let’s remind people that you’re talking unadulterated crap.

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        Ipaddressfunnycolors

        Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 2:35 pm

        Troll alert!!

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        Johns number 1 fan

        Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 5:56 pm

        Which part was crap? All or just some? Expected better from u IJ.

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          Issan John

          Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 9:39 pm

          Every part, as later explained.

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      Dreqo

      Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 1:32 pm

      Well said, mate.

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      Toby Andrews

      Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 3:05 pm

      I agree IPaddress.
      I would also remind people there will inevitably be persons, who do not want anyone to express sensible opinions, because they themselves believe they are the only person in Thailand who is right and everyone else is wrong.
      Yet he will not explain why they are wrong . . .

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        Issan John

        Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 3:57 pm

        OK, I will, point by point, although it’s a bit tedious.

        1. “… educate the eldery to be careful, encourage them to stay at home.”

        Unlike “the elderly” in the West, those in Thailand mainly live in multi-generational households so nothing is achieved if they “stay at home” if the rest of the household go out, so … crap.

        2. “And let’s remind everyone, only ????% of the population will be affected similar to the flu and mostly old people.”

        Nothing “like the flu” as despite all the precautions taken for Covid between 10 and 25 times as many have died, depending on the country, from Covid as from the flu, so … crap.

        3. “Indoor dining, nightclubs have always been slight vectors for disease and they should remain open.”

        “Slight vectors” according to who? Crap according to the experts.

        4. “Let nye celebrations commence…”

        Knock yourself out. Please.

        5. “Let’s remind people we have effective treatments now that we didn’t have 1 year ago.”

        Utter crap. There are NO “effective treatments” at all, just two vaccines so far now in Phase 4 (vaccines aren’t “treatment”).

        6. “Let’s remind people lock downs will hurt far more people than they save.”

        Again, according to who? Not the experts, so … crap.

        7. “Lets remind people to remain calm. Its going to be ok.”

        The mayor of Hiroshima said something similar, so … crap.

        8. “Lets remind people it is ok to get sick, our bodies were designed for this over 100,000 of years.”

        No, bats’ bodies might have been which is why they can live with it. Ours weren’t, so … crap.

        9. “If you’re sick, stay home.”

        Without isolating, passing it on to your family and friends? Probably not a problem for those who don’t have any, like Ipafc, but for the rest of us … crap.

        10. “Let’s remind people, most people will be asymptomatic and while they can spread covid, its not as great of threat as we once thought it was.”

        Yes, most will, but the “threat” is now clearer than ever, even to those who initially denied it such as Sweden so … crap.

        11. “Let’s remind people further spread of covid is inevitable lock down or not, and it will be ok.”

        No, not “inevitable” as some countries have shown beyond any doubt that the spread can be controlled by border closures and lockdowns IF applied effectively, so … crap.

        12. “Let’s remind people Thailand has some of the best Healthcare systems and doctors in the entire world and that we can handle this.”

        No, while I’m a vocal supporter of Thailand’s healthcare system, it’s by no means “the best in the entire world” and with only 2,000 beds available for potential Covid patients Thailand can’t “handle this” if the pandemic takes hold, so … crap.

        13. “Let’s remind people everything will be ok and we should begin opening the borders without quarantine. Lol”

        Yes indeed – LOL.

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          Ipaddressfunnycolors

          Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 4:35 pm

          Yes it’s napkin math, but my calculations suggests if everyone in Thailand caught covid tomorrow, all 80million, roughly 70,000 would get sick, and of those 70,000 sick, about 3-7000 would die.

          So if we go with the sad world where just sacrifice the elderly as you put it the other day, 7000 elderly would die in the next month.

          This covid thing is a big nothing burger that has been hyped beyond reason.

          Lets not ignore the people in usa who got in motorcycle crash and the death was ruled a covid 19 death.

          So the “official” statistics are officially comical.

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            Issan John

            Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 9:03 pm

            Inevitably, utter crap.

            Name any expert who thinks that more than 99.9% of those with Covid are asymptomatic, which is your figure.

            Any at all.

            People like you aren’t “comical” just sad.

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          Toby Andrews

          Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 6:06 pm

          This will be take too long to dispute all your excuses for this list, so I will pick a few for the sake of saving time.
          No 7 You declared is crap because you state, the mayor of Hiroshima said something similar. First he did not, and second even if he did, would this be enough to declare No 7 crap?
          No 6, What experts? Can we have a few names? If not, don’t write rubbish.
          No 5. Compared to a year ago we have effective treatment.
          Yes I agree, effective treatments enough so that 98 percent in Thailand recover.
          For instance Thailand has 11,096 ventilators available now. Did they have them a year ago? YOUR answer is utter crap!
          No 12 The statement was SOME of the best healthcare, not as you write: the best!
          Twisting posts again to suit your objections.
          No 12 Thailand is in a good position to handle a vast rise in hospital cases of Covid.
          Thai hospitals have 11.206 beds.511.200 sets of PPE, whatever they are, and 11.096 ventilators. However if there was a rapid rise in infections, most of them would be asymptomatic and not need a hospital bed. There are more than 2000 bed available!!
          You were right, your replies were tedious

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            Issan John

            Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 9:38 pm

            Equally sad, Toby A.

            No 7. Yes.

            No 6. Unbelievable, except from you. If no experts have said it, they can hardly be named.

            No5. Yes, they did have the ventilators a year ago, according to a statement from the Department of Medical Services (DMS) Deputy Director General Dr Narong Aphikulvanich, made in April.

            No 12. I didn’t “twist” it, I quoted it. Twice.

            No 12. No idea where you dreamt up your ststs, but, unsurprisingly, they’re crap.

            My figure of “only 2,000 beds available for potential Covid patients” was from the Department of Medical Services (DMS) Deputy Director General Dr Narong Aphikulvanich’s statement in April detailing that they had 1,978 beds then available for Covid patients “at public hospitals including university hospitals, hospitals run by the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration, hospitals run by the armed forces; as well as in private hospitals.”

            If you disagree, i suggest you take it up with him and I’m sure he’ll give your view all the respect it deserves.

            As for your “Thai hospitals have 11.206 beds”, you must have taken leave of what little sense you had, as that would be some ten beds per hospital, while Thailand has well over ten times that number.

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          Ipaddressfunnycolors

          Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 8:39 pm

          Let’s try again…

          1. The elderly.. effective treatments do not mean vaccine, and i don’t support a rushed vaccine for a virus that is fast to mutate. There are anti virals various cocktails and other methods of keeping people oxygenated without intubation. Intubation is no longer recommended as its a portal for irritation and infections. So the elderly can get treatments that will give them a much better chance of survival in the worst cases.

          2. The statistics have been massaged by the media to create fear. The real data on the cdc website tells a much different story. So… no.. its still similar to the flu. The flu has had much deadlier strains in the past 70 years that no one freaked out about. Unfortunately the data here is messy and convoluted thanks to the msm fear mongering. But I suspect the truth is that it’s much closer to the flu than what you claim to know to be true.

          3. Indoor dining and night clubs leads to the spread of flu, colds, food born illness, sti’s. Etc. In this case it could very well be a vector of covid spread… but covid isn’t as dangerous as reported. Cases don’t mean death or even sick people.

          4. I hate nye. Lol.

          5. See number 1

          6. Closed non essential business’s mean no income for many people. No income means no food or other forms of needs people have such as socialization. You don’t need to be an expert to put the puzzle pieces together here.

          7. Not even worth responding to.

          8. This is a fun one. It came from bats. I thought it was a bioweapon, or no it came from soil/swamps/over cycled pcr tests. Who knows… what we do know is a virus does not want to kill its host. It wants to integrate. So as it mutates, it gets less and less dangerous. Yes, this is what our immune system does. It identify forieng pathogens and creates and mounts a defense. The more it spreads the less and less dangerous it becomes.

          9. I thought we were friends. No? Ok maybe you’re right. Let’s agree to disagree on this one.

          10. Sweden was right but bowed to the pressures of various corrupt organizations. At least this is what’s reported, i suspect the reality on the ground is they’re living rather normal life like most here in thailand.

          11. Australia has gone off the deep end with the fear mongering and lockdowns and complete violation of human rights and freedom. A loss of liberties is never worth a little bit of safety when you factor in Everything else i already mentioned. I am willing to take some risk to get back to normal. Living in fear for the next decade based on fake hype of danger predicated on pcr tests is not how I want to live… ever.

          The spread of covid is inevitable in all countries as this plays out over the next few years.

          12. You twisted my words, but thai doctors have access to the procedures applied in other countries successfully and all they need to do is read a few journals and implement the methods and drug cocktails. This is a really simple thing.

          13. Keeping the borders shut and mandatory quarantine while covid is spreading domestically is like trying to have a smoking and non smoking section in a bar. Its just laughable. Its now going to be acceptable for it spread by citizens but it’s not ok to be brought in by foreignors… that’s just a bs double standard if you ask me… which you did not but I will share my thoughts any ways since we’re doing this conversation.

          If i were you, I would stock up on lots of rubbing alcohol and canned food and tape my windows shut. But I’m not you so I won’t do that.

          Merry Christmas and happy new year Issan john!!

          13.

          4.

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            Issan John

            Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 10:18 pm

            Oh God …..

            1. Yes, I’ve already said “(vaccines aren’t “treatment”)”.
            No, “anti virals various cocktails”, etc don’t “keep people oxygenated”, and Remdesivir and similar drugs were all available well over a year ago as is easily evidenced (it was developed to treat Ebola).

            2. Then show the stats from the CDC that support that – you can easily verify mine, that ten times as many died from Covid as from flu in the US as they come from … well, well, … the CDC.

            3. Quote any peer-reviewed expert that agrees with you.

            4. So … crap.

            5. I did. It was crap.

            6. So you made it up even though no experts agree with you. No surprise there.

            7. No surprise there either.

            8. Well, that may be what YOU “know”, but inevitably no experts share your view.

            9. No.

            10. “… at least this is what’s reported”. Where? By whom?

            Sweden’s PM has said they were wrong, the King has said they were wrong, Anders Tegnell, the epidemiologist who was behind the strategy, said he was wrong. But you say they were correct?

            I think that sums up your arguments pretty well.

            11. Fine, you don’t like it, go and live somewhere else as the vast majority in Australia don’t agree with you.

            12. No,I quoted you in full, twice. I can “read a few journals”, etc, but that doesn’t make me one “of the best doctors in the entire world”.

            13. Well, that’s your view which you’re entitled to,but no experts happen to share it, just as none share any of your views.

            I like to keep an open mind, though, so I’ll wait for you to produce that “real data on the cdc website” and any peer-reviewed experts supporting your views.

            Any at all.

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      Nipral

      Sunday, December 27, 2020 at 6:07 pm

      Have you ever considered seeing a shrink ? Do it NOW !!!!

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    Ameila Leary

    Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 2:54 pm

    As China’s pandemic accelerates the global spread of COVID-19, every nation still bears the brunt. In the international economy, the losses are enormous and China has gained fully from the global losses. As the world tries to solve this disease, China uses an evil mindset to expand its economy. Thai facing the sufferings and expecting help from China, bedside of helping them, is busy in its gain and trying to capture poor countries property. As the latest mutated strain causes more harm and to take measure to prevent the more suffering to come, Thai administration needs to concentrate on its citizens irrespective of thinking of enjoying powers at this time.

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      The Thaiger

      Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 7:10 pm

      The pandemic is “accelerating” in China? Could you please provide some evidence of this?

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        Ipaddressfunnycolors

        Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 9:30 pm

        No one knows. China isn’t exactly a transparent entity… to put it lightly..

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        Issan John

        Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 10:25 pm

        I don’t want to put words into Ameila’s mouth, but I don’t think that’s what she actually said.

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    Manu

    Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 10:47 pm

    So you did not make my comment available? Why? If you are honest, please tell me thetaiger? I was talking about treatments available responding to point 5 of isaan John above. Don’t scare me by saying even here I cannot talk about that!!!

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