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The news business has changed. A LOT. One of the big changes the more traditional news platforms are struggling with is the two-way conversation between news publishers and their readers/viewers. Not only do customers now have the ability to engage with the publishers, they frequently do so. We think that’s great. But with this engagement there is also a commensurate responsibility for people leaving comments. As the publisher is bound by certain responsibilities and legal guidelines, so too are the people joining in the conversation.

At The Thaiger we want the comments section to be a useful and engaging platform for debate and discussion. We understand that some people can end up using the space as their own personal platform. We will discourage this where commenters overwhelm the space. Instead, we will encourage as many people to get involved to share their opinion and commentary.

Whilst providing a few common-sense guidelines, we still encourage active and robust debate on important topics.

Rules for comments section…

• Argue, disagree or debate with other commenters, but don’t attack them personally. That includes The Thaiger and our staff.

• Don’t include links in your comments. You can, instead, quote other sources and copy/paste some text if you wish.

• Don’t defame the Thai Royal family or Thai officials directly by name under any circumstances.

• Be careful when posting anything that could be construed as libel against brands, companies or people. You will leave yourself open to litigation as well as The Thaiger.

• When posting alternate facts to those which are published, please provide a source of your information.

• From time to time The Thaiger will edit or delete comments as part of our responsibilities as a publisher in Thailand. Continued abuse of our comments section will end up with the user being blocked.

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    toby andrews

    Friday, April 2, 2021 at 11:43 am

    I am going to miss insulting I John.

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    Denis

    Friday, April 2, 2021 at 12:19 pm

    News websites are so funny…
    Same “journalists” criticize any form of censure here or elsewhere, but self-censured ou censure their readers with pseudo good reasons. Actually, the only reasons are business and money.
    You need readers to get sponsors, but reader’s rights is “Read only, buddy. Dear reader, don’t open your mouth.”
    No need to put ribbons about words.This is called censure not journalism.

    • Thaiger

      Thaiger

      Friday, April 2, 2021 at 1:25 pm

      This has nothing to do with journalism. It’s about running a responsible business. We encourage people to respond, responsibly. Call it censorship if that suits you. But we have no choice but to maintain some sort of control over published comments.

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    Denis

    Friday, April 2, 2021 at 1:32 pm

    News aggregator websites are so funny…

    First, they don’t produce anything or collect any informations by themselves. They just make deals with international infos databases or locals freelancers.

    More than this, these “journalists” criticize any form of censure here or elsewhere, but self-censured to please their sponsors. No risk : This is the first rule ! LOL

    But now, they censure their readers with fake “good reasons”.
    Actually, the only reasons of news aggregator websites are business and money.

    These websites need readers to get sponsors, but reader’s rights is “Read only, buddy but don’t open your mouth.”

    So, no need to put ribbons about words.This is called censure not journalism.

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    Denis

    Friday, April 2, 2021 at 1:41 pm

    Blablabla …
    It’s censorship. You live off sponsors and publicity, admit it. Fewer readers, fewer sponsors, less money …
    But now you want the butter, the butter money, and the creamer. You impose advertising on readers, you want their readership but above all that they keep silent so as not to offend neither the sponsors, nor the authorities who could prohibit you from publication.
    What must we do ? Read and be silent
    You have no journalistic courage. Not brave enough to government, not brave enough to lose sponsors, not even brave enough to argue with readers. Your only way is “Shut up or you will be banned”. Dictatorship have a good future with you 😉

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    Matt Miran

    Friday, April 2, 2021 at 5:23 pm

    Normally I would agree with you. Having said that, Thaiger did a pretty good job setting a boundary as in most forums #twitter, I don’t participate as it is disgusting. Granted I might be the minority but really, the personal attacks need to STOP. Agree to disagree but people need to get a life beyond their keyboard.

    P.S. John was an easy target however. . . .Oh well, he is where he wants to be!

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    Ricky

    Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:56 pm

    • When posting alternate facts to those which are published, please provide a source of your information.

    I would only ask the same from news agencies! Not the usual excuse; verified sources, unnamed source ect. Ect. Thanks

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    Gobsmacked_1

    Friday, April 2, 2021 at 7:03 pm

    I would be more than happy to pay a subscription to “The Thaiger” provided that the standard of articles improves in terms of accuracy of numerical data, including when sourced from other reports. Also, the standard of English is often poor, even when the authors are native English speakers! This implies that the articles are being written in haste and not being checked before publication.

    In nearly all other respects I am a strong supporter of The Thaiger and its principles. It definitely serves a purpose for a wide audience and I hope it can evolve and aspire to being even more successful. Quality, not quantity. Good luck!

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    moi

    Friday, April 2, 2021 at 9:20 pm

    I like Thethaiger for being a one-stop, mostly Thai, news site. I also prefer the graphics to the Thai newspapers. I have not really appreciated when Thethaiger takes on topics outside of Thailand, other than regional issues.
    I love the comments and the folks who regularly speak up here. If comments were turned off or restricted, I would be out a here.
    Although I feel Thethaiger editors should be laissez faire, if we want to one-up or debate our fellow Thethaigerarians, leave us alone! We are the “main event” here lol! We can monitor ourselves. In doing so, my judgement is that it is uncool to be arrogant farangs criticizing Thai culture. I think I speak for everyone that we all love Thailand and this is why we are here. If someone behaves badly, we are quick to put that person in their place. By the way, I was initially annoyed with Issan John but he too serves a role in this charade. Of course, there are limits by which someone should be allowed to attack others. Every so often, I read something that is violates my sense of “coolness.” We can agree to disagree and be civil about it.
    Lastly, I doubt if sponsors would threaten to back-out because of comments. Honestly, I was surprised that Thethaiger published these “guidelines,” although I agree with one: “• Don’t defame the Thai Royal family or Thai officials directly by name under any circumstances.”

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    Roger Bruce

    Friday, April 2, 2021 at 9:41 pm

    Polite and caring yes
    However, some comments by 1 person are hard not to attack personally ..Idiot statements
    I will leave it to your discretion to delete or not
    leave it at that

    Thank you

    • Thaiger

      Thaiger

      Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 10:40 am

      That has been addressed.

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    Farang Man in Canada

    Friday, April 2, 2021 at 10:30 pm

    Amen brother. The guidelines are reasonable. Everything has a limit. I think this rag is pretty good. I like it. I read it every day from halfway around the world. I used to read the Bangkok Post. They censored almost everything I tried to post. None of it violated the guidelines above. Whereas The Thaiger has published nearly everything I have submitted (under various pseudonyms). This rag is waaaay better than the Post. Hallelujah!

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    David Mann

    Friday, April 2, 2021 at 11:42 pm

    Happy to comply with those guidelines as essentially they are asking for people to be fair minded and decent in their reply’s. However, can I please please please ask if I am the only person not being able to “Reply” to a comment? I can post a new comment but the “reply” button doesn’t work anymore. A few weeks ago there would be to & fro conversations taking place as people used the Reply option. This isn’t happening anymore. I’ve also suggested a “Like” 👍🏻 And “dislike” 👎🏻 Button so that people can simply agree or disagree. No reply yet from The Thaiger to either of these issues???

    • Thaiger

      Thaiger

      Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 10:40 am

      Hi David. Thanks for bringing that to our attention. Whilst we are tinkering around the backend of the site at the moment, there may be some unintended consequences. We have never decided to remove the ‘reply’ button and I have asked our IT people to look at this issue urgently.

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    Shemozzel

    Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 8:57 am

    Oh Denis you poor thing. Democracy is crumbling because a bunch of jaded expats are being asked to watch their manners and not to put the publishers at risk of prosecution. What a load of over dramatized rot. Of course it’s a business, did you think it was a community service newsletter or something? No one is forcing you to read or to make comments. You can always go and read one of the other 20 or so Thai newspapers there are to choose from or you can go and write what you like at Thai Visa. Takes a lot to offend the mods there.

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    jan van daalen

    Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 9:17 am

    I read The Thaiger (English) almost daily, but are not happy with the increasing amount of ads. I also do not agree with a ban to include criticism on for instance LM.
    I support the comments of Denis.

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    Sam

    Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 9:39 am

    Thaiger scared it might get shut down because critical if institutions in the corrupt country?

    • Thaiger

      Thaiger

      Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 10:38 am

      It’s actually the law. Do we want to be shut down? No.Do you want us to be shut down?

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    Jesus Monroe

    Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 6:07 pm

    WE ARE DROWNING IN ADS THAIGER……..CAN YOU HELP US OR IGNORE US?

    • Thaiger

      Thaiger

      Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 7:52 pm

      Please email us a screenshot to info@thethaiger.com We have removed most of the ads off the homepage. Otherwise there shouldn’t be any general increase in ads. Send us the problem pages and we’ll attend to any overloading immediately.

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    pascal mazzella

    Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 8:01 am

    just trying again, i get the feeling my comment can not be published for an unknown reason.

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    pascal

    Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 8:02 am

    trying again but i get the feeling my comment are not published for an unknown reason.

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    Harry1

    Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 10:57 am

    where do l login can no longer find a link and your question sign never gives a answer

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    AC

    Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 5:03 pm

    I fully agree with David Mann and The Taiger redaction.

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    AC

    Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 5:05 pm

    I fully agree with David Mann and The Thaiger redaction.

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