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Jack Burton

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In days gone by, a foreigner visiting a national park or tourist site could often expect to be charged several times the price charged to a local. Now, thanks to a Facebook community naming and shaming venues that apply “farang prices” to foreign visitors, those days are, well, numbered. Members of the 2PriceThailand Facebook group are warning each other about price gouging for foreigners regardless of their residence status, a practice openly endorsed by state and private businesses alike, despite calls of outright discrimination.

The double pricing or dual pricing debate has been around ever since foreigners stepped onto Thai shores. It’s a hotly debated topic with strong opinions on both sides.

“The intention of this group is to give foreigners the right to choose. We don’t think it is fair that some tourist attractions disguise the fact that they have a dual price system. Our opinion is that if they want to overcharge foreign tourists by as much as 200% then that is their decision. But, don’t do it in a way that is both sneaky and insulting.”

The group also says they hope to see the abolition of the dual pricing system in Thailand.

“Thai people are internationally known for their kind and generous hospitality. The actions of a few tourist attractions are damaging that reputation.”

Popular British blogger Richard Barrow, who regularly writes about Thailand’s tourist attractions and scams on his websites, is the group’s admin. In 1 post, user Aisha Moller Pedersen warns that the “foreigner” admission fee for Phra Nakhon Khiri Historical Park is 150 baht; it’s 20 baht for Thais.

Just to step on the beach at Nangyuan Island Dive Resort, foreigners pay 200 baht (doubled from 100 baht due to Covid-19), while Thais pay 30, a member posted Monday.

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Another user wrote that at Koh Chang Waterfall, the entrance fee is 200 baht for foreigners, while (adult) Thais only pay 20. A tourist attraction in Bangkok features its ticket prices in Thai and Arabic numbers. The “farang price” is nearly twice as high.

“I was there during the weekend and brought my work permit as well but no luck, and worst of all the ticket seller was very rude,so, we decided to leave. This is a widespread and systematic racism which should be stopped immediately.”

Another member wrote yesterday that adult foreigners pay 100 baht to enter the Queen Sirikit Botanical Garden in Chiang Mai, while Thai adults pay 40. But it’s not all negativity – members also post places that offer the same prices for Thais and foreigners. “Sukhothai Historical Park offering same prices for Thai and farang,” wrote one user in a Sunday post.

“Doi Tung Tourist Attraction – no dual pricing, and the nicest gardens I’ve seen in Thailand,” wrote another, referring to the Mae Fah Luang Botanical Garden in Chiang Rai.

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Jack Burton is an American writer, broadcaster, linguist and journalist who has lived in Asia since 1987. A native of the state of Georgia, he attended the The University of Georgia's Henry Grady School of Journalism, which hands out journalism's prestigious Peabody Awards. His works have appeared in The China Post, The South China Morning Post, The International Herald Tribune and many magazines throughout Asia and the world. He is fluent in Mandarin and has appeared on television and radio for decades in Taiwan, Mainland China, Hong Kong and Macau.

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    Toby Andrews

    July 9, 2020 at 5:09 pm

    See how they put the Thai price in Thai script.
    Thais never use this script, but they do when they want the foreigners not to know they are paying more than the Thais.
    Many of these attraction would be out of business if the foreigners do not visit.
    Put them out of business – do not go.

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      Brian

      July 9, 2020 at 5:15 pm

      Yes, I agree, I rarely see the Thai numerals. It seems clear it is an attempt at obfuscation. I hope Thai people will appreciate that foreigners being given the same price as locals is a thing that is appreciated very much by visitors who have lived other places like China where being charged extra is an everyday concern. Thai people, please keep it simple, it is appreciated and will benefit everyone in the long run.

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      Andrew

      July 10, 2020 at 12:52 am

      Yeah! The same in Malaysia! Racist countries. Don’t go there!

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    Simon

    July 9, 2020 at 5:59 pm

    I suppose another way of looking at it, is the Thai’s get a discount, because many of them earn a pittance compared to foreigners. To be honest, it doesn’t bother me too much, if the price is acceptable or not should be the deciding factor, not how much someone else is getting charged.

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      Dirty Farang

      July 10, 2020 at 12:58 am

      Yeah, 100% agree. They need the cash for maintanance but natives can’t afford this price. For me it’s okay to pay some Euros more if they use it for keep everything running but not, if it’s to make some officials rich.

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      Osi

      July 11, 2020 at 11:09 am

      Kindly I opine that your aforementioned approach distances people from equality and nearing them to discrimination and sadness; it is far worse when done with obfuscation. Anyway, it’s bad for the long run so it shouldn’t be encourage.

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    Terry Williams

    July 9, 2020 at 6:32 pm

    There is no way to defend 650.00 % in increase for farangs compare to Thai people for the very same venue. It is just sick! I wonder what they would call is if we did that to Thais? Boycott venues with double pricing! This is bullshit!

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      William Moeller

      July 9, 2020 at 8:16 pm

      Thai people believe that western countries routinely do ‘dual pricing’ for foreigners, but they are wrong. I’m married to a Thai and we tried to book a tour. When they found out that I was not Thai, they wanted to increase the price for my ticket by 1500 Baht. My wife could not understand why I refused to go on their tour. I cannot tolerate dual pricing.

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        Daniel

        July 10, 2020 at 3:43 am

        One of the reason people go on vacation in SE Asia is cheap prices.

        One of the reason many don’t go to Thailand anymore, is because it’s not cheap for us anymore.

        I recently discovered Philippines. Much cheaper, no dual pricing and by avoiding a couple selected places, very safe.

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    sam thompson

    July 9, 2020 at 7:35 pm

    Name and shame, publicise and boycott….good pressure tactics, especially at these times…..nobody enjoys being ripped off and it is ridiculous that farangs are required to pay these exorbitiant charges…..I am sure that Thai tourists would be extremely resentful if they were asked to pay more for entry tahn locals to popular attractions around the world.

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    jon

    July 9, 2020 at 10:19 pm

    Grand Palace in Bangkok, foreigners 500 baht each even for long term residents with local ID, locals free entry.

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    Patong Pattie

    July 9, 2020 at 11:53 pm

    Compare to Europe:
    In some European countries, some “farangs” (middle eastern and north african street criminals) receive free housing and disco money for the rest of their lives by claiming they are war children in need.

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    Damon Lobel

    July 10, 2020 at 12:28 am

    Dual pricing for normal goods and services is wrong in my opinion. That being said, Thai national parks belong to the Thai people and it is right they be charged an affordable price for access and 20 to 30 Baht is a very low price. It would be very difficult to visit these beautiful locations if there wasn’t money to maintain the various roads and facilities that make the experience so enjoyable for tourists. I have visited a number of these dual price locations with Thai friends and have never felt I did not get value for the extra price of my admission, in fact I felt glad to be of help in keeping these amazing locations accessible.

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    Marty

    July 10, 2020 at 1:20 am

    Don’t mind paying Extra to help Thai economy as a Farang , but was Shocked to be charged 1500 bht entry fee to visit Phuket Zoo , when Locals paid 100 bht. . Needless to say a bit extravagant.

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    me

    July 10, 2020 at 10:21 am

    show me proof that you live here and get a thai discount (bank card, id, drivers license, etc.)

    if you’re coming from elsewhere, pay more.

    i’m all for it. the income discrepancy is unfair and this helps to balance it. i say this as a financially independent new yorker. i don’t mind paying more.

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      Rai

      July 10, 2020 at 11:48 am

      Not everyone is from New York, many people living in Europe can’t afford 1 room apartments or a car when Thai people have big houses and nice pickup trucks. Even tho income is bigger it’s still crazy hard to save and then you have to pay for ticket, and a hotel or Airbnb as well as keep renting your room in the west…

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    Kim Johansen

    July 10, 2020 at 12:38 pm

    Well they have managed to split foreigners in 3 groups. WP holders, retirerees and tourists.
    What is the difference in places that are not supported by tax money. ?

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    Toby Andrews

    July 10, 2020 at 4:35 pm

    However I saw Laos charge Thais the Felang price at Bhudda park in Laos.
    I laughed out load at the time.
    The Thais did not see the joke!
    They had a taste of their own medicine and I suppose it was bitter.

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    Cheeky falang

    July 11, 2020 at 5:20 pm

    My wife and i go on our bikes, she goes in front and pays for two, my safety gear covers me head to toe and have a mirrored visor…. i get thai price.

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    Su

    July 11, 2020 at 6:11 pm

    Because Thai people pay tax and all maintenances and staff salaries came from tax that Thai people paid. Many Thai never went to any of those places you mentioned eventhough they pay tax every month. When I made trips oversea I respected whatever tickets price that I have to pay as a foreigners.

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    World Traveller

    July 16, 2020 at 1:45 pm

    Try jumping on a boat from Rassada Pier to Koh Yao Noi, THB300 for foreigners, THB30 for locals. I’ve travelled all over the world and Thailand’s dual pricing is the WORST I’ve encountered.

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    Russ Kozerski

    August 11, 2020 at 8:38 am

    OMG. American expat here. Are westerners the most whiny, entitled people on earth? Listen to all these people complaining about having to pay 200 baht ($6 US) while on a vacation where it cost them $1000+ just for a plane ticket to get here. Four-star hotels are $50. Food is $1.50 a meal. This place is one of the least-expensive places on earth. But “life’s not fair. I had to pay more.” How about this. If you don’t like having to pay a few bucks to see amazing cultural sites, then stay home. Go to Yosemite, where there’s a $35 a day charge to get in. Or visit The Louvre in France, for $18. Or go to New York and visit the One World Trade Center viewing deck for $32. Or go ride the London Eye for $30 or the Niagara Falls Maid of the Mist for $22. Then you won’t have to complain about that $6 foreigner price in Thailand.

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