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The Tourism Authority of Thailand has expressed concern that the emergence of local Covid-19 infections may negatively affect travel during the November 19-22 holiday period. TAT governor, Yuthasak Supasorn, says there’s a risk that local infections, such as the Krabi resident who tested positive recently, may be dampening enthusiasm among domestic tourists.

Local tourism officials are desperate to reboot Thailand’s battered tourism industry and are hoping the 2 long weekends coming up will help boost numbers in the long-suffering tourist hubs that have been left all but desolate since March.

Furthermore, travel uptake may be limited by many having already spent money on trips during the October 23 holiday, coupled with additional holidays being announced for December 10-13.

“Local tourists may bypass holidays as the sluggish economy has affected their incomes, as they face household debt and soft purchasing power. Tourism receipts are projected to be a bit low.”

According to the TAT, the most popular holiday spots for locals are Chon Buri, Bangkok, Kanchanaburi, Nakhon Ratchasima, Rayong, Prachuap Khiri Khan, Khon Kaen, Chiang Mai and Ayutthaya. The international favourites are, generally, off most local tourism maps.

However, the southern province of Nakhon Si Thammarat is also expected to be busy during the forthcoming holiday, as pilgrims flock to pray to a statue of the child spirit, Ai Khai, at Wat Chedi. The TAT adds that data collected between November 1-10 indicates that Chiang Mai and Phuket are the most discussed holiday destinations among locals on social media.

The TAT predicts that over the course of the upcoming holiday, domestic tourists will take over 3 million trips, generating over 12.5 billion baht. The Bangkok Post reports that these figures are similar to those generated over the substitute Songkran holidays in September.

Meanwhile, average hotel occupancy over the period is expected to be around 37%, down from 41% during the September holiday. Hotels in central Thailand are expected to fare best, with a predicted occupancy rate of 61%, followed by 55% in the north-east, 54% in the east, 44% in the north, 20% in Bangkok and a mere 18% in the south of the country.

SOURCE: Bangkok Post

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    SG666

    November 17, 2020 at 11:00 am

    Only the sluggish economy will have a negative impact on travelling not the fear of local transmissions.

    I have been on an event with around 3-4k participants in BKK last weekend and most people not complied with any covid measures. Even not the organizers did

    People are simply sick and tired of all this covid BS.

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      The Thaiger & The Nation

      November 17, 2020 at 11:14 am

      Being sick and tired of it is one thing. Learning to live with it, whilst not kicking off a 2nd wave, is the quandary. Calling it BS (such a lovely American nicety) doesn’t help. Remember, worldwide, this is only the beginning.

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        SG666

        November 17, 2020 at 11:43 am

        If you believe in this hoax yes. I dont believe in it. It is nothing like a set up from the WHO and the pharma industry. Covid is a hoax. A second wave ? Laughable.

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          clfeige

          November 17, 2020 at 11:53 am

          this is why i don’t want to live in the US anymore. There are too many people like you.

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            SG666

            November 17, 2020 at 12:00 pm

            And I do not want to live in the U.S. because if I would do so I had to spend money there which would support the U.S. economy.

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            Leo Z

            November 18, 2020 at 5:23 am

            Why are you, and the Thaiger, quick to make references to the US? Isn’t that biased (to put it mildly)? Thaiger, presumably you wouldn’t have a problem with “bollocks”?

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          The Thaiger & The Nation

          November 17, 2020 at 11:59 am

          It’s not a matter of believing in it. The evidence is quite stark. Just because it’s inconvenient and causing major disruption doesn’t mean it’s not real. On the other hand you need to look similarly critically at the stories of conspiracies and cover-ups and decide if there is any tangible, verifiable evidence to back them up. We have found none.

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            SG666

            November 17, 2020 at 12:15 pm

            So where is your evidence than.

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            The Thaiger & The Nation

            November 17, 2020 at 12:30 pm

            You can look at any of the audited counts from around the world. We use Worldometers.info. If what you’re suggesting is true ALL these countries and their health departments reporting cases and deaths are “in on it”. That is patently absurd. And look at some countries like France, Germany and Austria which are having problems in hospitals with over-capacity.

            I spoke to a friend in Austria this morning who, despite testing positive and displaying mild symptoms at this stage, has been told to stay at home as the local hospital has too many cases, their ICU is full and they can’t cope.

            There are also the countless stories of health workers, the frontline of the pandemic, pleading with people to take the issue seriously. There is no upside for their speaking out except for the very real distress about the situation. We are not making the wild claims about the “BS” and the cover ups. The onus of evidence is on YOU Sir. The dead cannot speak but their statistics are stark and proof enough.

            Again, if you claim the doctors, nurses and attending medical staff, around the world, are all in some massive cover up then no evidence will ever suffice. This is not a political battle, it’s a public health battle. And the sooner people stop being politically tribal about Covid-19 and work together to resolve the situation, the sooner this mess will be sorted out. Wear a mask, remain socially distant and pay attention to your hygiene.

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            Issan John

            November 17, 2020 at 12:46 pm

            Thaiger, I’m afraid you’re wasting your time.

            The idea that several million doctors around the world are all “in on it”, filling up hospital wards and ICUs with Covid-19 patients with nothing wrong with them while turning away patients they would otherwise be treating, is as absurd as the idea that the Thai government is somehow hiding tens of thousands of people dying from Covid who’ve all avoided shopping at 7-11, Big ‘C’ and Lotus, as well as local markets, and also decided they don’t want to get free hospital treatment.

            On balance, probably even more absurd if that’s possible.

            Still, given that the world’s flat and carried around by a giant turtle, and run by Satan worshipping, baby eating paedophile billionaires, who knows …..

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            Ryan Lih

            November 17, 2020 at 12:52 pm

            Thaiger, it is futile to reply to SG666 because he’s obviously in a state of denial just like Trump. It’s a waste of time. Move on. Living on earth, the pandemic is evidently omnipresent unless he’s living in the space station above or under a rock. Rather laughable individual.

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            Kim

            November 17, 2020 at 3:15 pm

            While I applaud how Thailand has officially tackled the C19 virus, then I question the low infection rate and test rate, as it is logical that if the test rate is low, then the infection rate is low. I have also heard some people claiming that some hospitals are facing a new form of respiratory system disease. Could this be a deliberate try to keep down the official C19 infection rate or am I too cynical?

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            SG666

            November 17, 2020 at 4:54 pm

            I asked you for evidence. Not for reference reports from mainstream media.
            You are talking about audited counts. Who is auditing this counts? I don’t know any independent body who is auditing covid 19 counts and I am not talking about governmental body’s auditing their own statistics.

            The point is that all this figures are an exaggeration. Many countries on this planet never determine the exact cause of death of a patient who had covid 19 as they simply not have the capacities to do so or have religious constrains. As you mentioned Germany, they do actually and – surprisingly – the death rate in Germany is quite low, isn’t it.

            And yes, you stated correctly, hospitals in Germany have problems with over capacity, they have much more ICU rooms than needed. Indeed, Germany has around 40.000 intensive care beds, taking the amount of critical cases from worldometer – which you deem are true – they have as per now 3.436 serious/critical cases, which is lower than 10percent of the ICU bed capacity of Germany. This no problem at all.

            Regarding your friend in Austria. Why somebody with mild symptoms should be admitted to a hospital?

            You are talking about countless stories of health workers. Did you spoke to this guys in person or did you got this stories from mainstream media?
            I can tell you that I know from 2 people from different countries that they have been asked when a family member died if it would be OK to put as reason of death covid 19 in the death certificate. This simply because there is a kind of support fund in this countries for people who have family members which died from covid 19. So you get cash money for everyone who died because of covid from the government – surely the money is to be shared between the family and the guy who fills in the death certificate.

            My claim is – and I repeat it again – that cases all around the world and death rates same as reports about the ‘disease’ are exaggerated by mainstream media – nothing new actually as most media reports are exaggerated, serving the WHO and its corrupt lobbyists AKA the pharma industry with its vaccine front runner Bill Gates with the target to implement mandatory vaccination which will allow the tracing of citizens. This in connection with the fact that governments all around the world are very interested in controlling their citizens, as they control the press by the way to a certain extend.

            Finally, I not wear a mask. I patronize businesses where I don’t have too and there are – believe it or not – luckily enough of them in LOS, simply because the people need every cent to survive and are – as stated in my first comment – sick and tired of this BS.

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            maxcorrigan

            November 18, 2020 at 9:40 am

            I have an American friend i met in England he was a US marine stationed in London he was all 100% for the covid 19 being a huge hoax posting regularly on FB with figures percentages etc. until the turning point came when he had to watch his father through a glass screen dying of C-19 as he posted not being able to touch or hold him in his last moments was heart breaking, now he no longer post conspiracy theories at all, i don’t bring it up but i’m pretty sure his views are changed!

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      Issan John

      November 17, 2020 at 3:01 pm

      Outside of Bangkok, and to a lesser extent other smaller cities, Thais live in multi-generational households and their lives centre around a multi-generational family, so it should hardly be a surprise that less attention is paid to the virus in Bangkok, particularly by students and young crowds with the occasional out-of-place wrinkly farang hanger-on, than in the rest of Thailand.

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    EdwardV

    November 17, 2020 at 12:00 pm

    If you do your best for months in demonizing the virus, it only makes sense people would be afraid of the smallest of outbreaks. You saw that to perfect effect with that Egyptian officer who tested positive. Area cancellations lasted well past the actual event. The saying you reap what you sow comes to mind.

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      Issan John

      November 17, 2020 at 12:21 pm

      Outside of Bangkok, and to a lesser extent other smaller cities, Thais live in multi-generational households and their lives centre around a multi-generational family, so it should hardly be a surprise that less attention is paid to the virus in Bangkok, particularly by students and young crowds with the occasional out-of-place wrinkly farang hanger-on, than in the rest of Thailand.

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        EdwardV

        November 17, 2020 at 1:41 pm

        John you must have meant that for someone else as I’m having a hard time understanding how it applies to what i wrote. That said I do understand multi generational family households in Thailand. I live outside of buriram for awhile and saw it first hand. Thailand still demonized the virus and will have a hard time doing anything because of it. You can see it in the failed Phuket plan, the attempt to lower the quarantine from 14 to 10 days and the repeated failed attempts to figure out ways to reopen. Just wait till they ram down the people’s throats the fact they will do away with the quarantine in total for the Chinese visitors come February.

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          Issan John

          November 17, 2020 at 3:00 pm

          Sorry, Ed V, I did “mean it for someone else” as it was intended as a reply to SG 666 when he said “I have been on an event with around 3-4k participants in BKK last weekend and most people not complied with any covid measures. Even not the organizers did”

          Yours must have been the last comment, so somehow it ended up under yours instead.

          I’ve repeated it where it was intende to be. Sorry.

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            EdwardV

            November 17, 2020 at 3:20 pm

            John: no harm, no foul. We’re good.

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    Gosport

    November 17, 2020 at 1:30 pm

    It is hard time, it will pass, now, it depends on your money saved over years. But,lower the barriers for risk countries is perfect shot for short term.

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    AI

    November 17, 2020 at 2:25 pm

    Oh dear….. Can anyone simply provide one iota from cherished source where there is evidence of this “virus” actually exists? This should be easy, right? Go tell the Brit and Irish gubmints! Why? because they still cannot provide….anything.

    Go figure……… but be afraid, VERY afraid. 55 😉

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      Issan John

      November 17, 2020 at 3:06 pm

      AI, as I’ve asked you before, what “evidence” would you like?

      There’s enough “evidence” for several million doctors and hundreds of thousands of hospitals who are admitting what they think are Covid-19 patients to their wards and ICUs at the expense of others who would normally be admitted and treated.

      Are you suggesting they’re all wrong or all “in on it”?

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    AI

    November 17, 2020 at 4:41 pm

    So, IJ, if there’s SO MUCH evidence, why don’t you provide where to look for this golden source? I know you can’t post links, but just a heading or something. And while you’re at it, you can also help the UK gov. out, because they still haven’t proved it exists. So, do that and help those clowns in parliament!
    Start here – simply put this into a good search engine –

    “Ireland Joins UK Govt. In Refusing To Confirm COVID19 Even Exists!”

    Let us all know how you get on with that. Fanx 😉

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    luca

    November 17, 2020 at 6:45 pm

    the American orange clown is at the root of all denier morons, the funny fact is that he has enjoyed millions of dollar drugs that are not available to his followers.
    the main problem of this virus is not its lethality but its ability to infect a large number of people in a short period of time, this produces a crowding of hospitals that fail to treat the most vulnerable patients who die in large numbers .
    The images of the military trucks that take away the corpses in Bergamo (Italy) should be enough to understand that it is not a conspiracy but the simple truth.
    Unfortunately, there are people in the world who are so stupid as to believe flat earth that I am not surprised that there are so many stupid as to believe that the pandemic is a fiction.

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      Alex

      November 18, 2020 at 6:24 pm

      Don’t post links, as per our guidelines.

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        Alex

        November 19, 2020 at 2:19 am

        Piss off! Deceptive scumbags! Post the truth if you got any balls! You all can go to hell! Traitors!

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    west tiger

    November 18, 2020 at 2:05 am

    Once Farnags are let back into the country the tourism industry here will be saved. It won’t be saved by local tourism

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