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Expat in Koh Samui Prison on drug charges, nearly $3,000 raised to get her out

PHOTO: Facebook: Ashley Oosthuizen

A 21 year old South African woman is locked in Thai prison after she allegedly signed for a package containing 250 grams of MDMA, an ingredient in ecstasy, according to a GoFundMe account. People say she’s innocent and have raised $2,966 USD to get her out. She’s apparently facing drug charges that carry life imprisonment.

Ashley Oosthuizen has been living in Thailand for more than 2 years. She worked as a teacher at an international school in Koh Samui, according to her Facebook page. The GoFundMe page says Ashley started Hot in the Biscuit, a breakfast and brunch restaurant on the island.

“She is well known in the community and liked by all who meet her. She is truly a wonderful human being with a heart of gold.”

While Ashley was at work, a package was delivered and addressed to her former boss. She signed for the package, but didn’t open it and set it aside. Later, the police raided the shop and searched the package, finding 250 grams of MDMA, according to the GoFundMe page.

Apparently, Ashley was arrested and charged with importation with intent to distribute a Category 1 narcotic. Importing a Category 1 substances carries a penalty of up to life imprisonment and a fine of 1 million to 5 million baht under Thailand’s Narcotics Act.

“The case against her is absolutely horrible – there is no evidence excepting the unopened package addressed to her former friend but because the package contained 250 grams of drug they are holding her as the one responsible.”

The GoFundMe page says Ashley was drug tested and came out negative. Her friends say they expect the case to be dismissed, but say Thai courts move “painfully slow” and they don’t want Ashley spending time behind bars waiting for a court date.

“Thai prisons are not like Western prisons. She cannot stay there so long. She is only 21 years old. She is an innocent victim.”

To donate to the GoFundMe account, or to read about Ashley’s story, click HERE.

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    1. Exactly! Someone was jealous of her success or was getting revenge for some trifling matter. Maybe a competitor or ex boyfriend/girlfriend, rival, etc. I hope she gets out of the joint soon. A pretty girl like this may not last long in there!

    1. I dont understand your poor comment. Thailand have hard law against drugs and that’s good, if she innocent the justice will act but nobody knows the true story.
      Thailand is not perfect but “this will accelerate your downfall”is so poor of reflection.
      Thailand don’t need western tourist to survive thanks God there is an Asian market much bigger and without the old farang spirit like yours

      1. Agreed 100 %. It’s strange that everytime they arrest a drug trafficker etc. they claim to be innocent. A recent case in Kampot, Cambodia had a Brit arrested because he had a parcel sent from the UK containing Ecstacy Drugs. Who on this planet would send drugs from Britain to Cambodia when they are much cheaper there ? I also don’t see how she can get out of prison with a 3000 USD payment. If she is convicted she can spend a long time in places like the Bangkok Hilton.

  1. We don’t know all the details, but in a fair jury trial in a democratic society, guilt and intent would be very hard if not impossible to legitimately prove. I know based on these details she her self has not actually harmed single person. If someone got their hands on it, ingested it on their own will, they are ultimately responsible for their own self. But it the new globalist prison planet, you are now held liable for everyone else’s choices, actions, and their consequences.

    The drug war is a failure and waste of tax money. We need proper safety education and awareness, not more prisons or more draconian laws for victimless crimes. Legalize all drugs.

    1. “and by the way, I caught covid 19, a severe upper respiratory virus in Chiang mai last November. Just because it wasn’t reported in the media doesn’t mean that’s not what swept through town”

      … of course you did … and, of course, you can identify it specifically using the tea leaves at the bottom of your cup … and, of course, it “swept through town” unreported and unnoticed by all except you …

        1. If i sell you bleach, and you decide to drink it… that’s my responsibility if you get hurt? If I sell you a gun, alcohol, a car, a knife, and you use it in a way that hurts you or someone else… im the one who should be guilty?

          And somehow drugs are an exception to this, and when used safely, cause virtually no harm to the individual or society, especially when compared to alcohol.

          Also, do explain how countries that have legalized all drugs see addictions rates drop, drug prices drop and the general crime surrounding addiction drop, and not by a little, as much as 90%, like Portugal. Offer counseling and help etc, is the wrong way to go, and using precious tax dollars to investigate, arrest, jail is the right way to go, especially knowing it has become a massive for profit industry with the incentive to jail as many individuals as possible.

          Give me freedom or give me death. I don’t want to live a bootlicking world where everybody/thing that doesn’t go through a govt body first is illegal. Where at any minute, drugs can be planted on me and I spend the rest of my life as a political prisoner. That’s no way to run the world or society.

          Take some personal responsibility for YOUR actions, choices, and accept the potential consequences of them.

    2. Legalize Drugs ? My arse ! Seeing all these western Zombies roaming the streets of south east asia is every reason to follow the path of the Philippines instead. PM Duterte got it right . You traffick , use drugs …….. your dead ! This will save the society lots of money and keep their kids away from junkies.

  2. Ask yourself this question. Why did the police raid the shop. I’ve never seen any police except on the roads. Clearly something was going on.

    Some one was informing someone. If the package is for her former boss, where was he. If he’s a former boss, why was it addressed to him. If he doesn’t work there.

    Not very clear whats going on, but $3000 won’t get her out of anything in Thailand if its drug related it might buy her some snacks in prison though

  3. The Thai system seems to not use terms like felony and misdemeanour, or civil case, everything seems to be described as “criminal”, which sounds like a poor translation. There’s no real way to have known that merely signing for a delivery would make you culpable. My niece, at school, has signed for a courier package for me, it’s hardly anything to do with her. The main issue is that tourism-hungry countries are finding it harder to control negative news, and it’s in their own interests to take steps to prevent people from being put off from visiting in future. COVID is proving to be a decimator of jobs in tourism-related industries, bad news stories are left high and dry for all to see, and when it comes to choosing a place to go and relax and spend money, places that do people over are running out of political capital fast.

    1. “The Thai system seems to not use terms like felony and misdemeanour, or civil case, everything seems to be described as “criminal”, which sounds like a poor translation.”

      Wrong. Complete and utter rubbish.

  4. Where is the “former friend” she signed the package for? That’s a peculiar way to refer to someone in my opinion.
    Do they still see each other or talk?
    If they do, then logically they should arrest the friend too.
    If not, then it looks like she was being too clever for her own good.

    1. The real issue, is I can post anything to anyone without their knowledge. Does that make the reciever guilty because their name was on the package? No it doesn’t. This is WHY drugs are sent in the mail. And its not about who they should go after. If you don’t want the risks that come with doing drugs, don’t do them and you will be fine. The reality is drug awareness, education and the use of drugs really isn’t an issue. If the person on the drugs hurts someone, then they’re a criminal until then, they’re just another partner. Who am i to tell some one else what can and cannot consume.

  5. You don´t have to be a police detective,to see that she is innocent…The packed was send to a man,she just got it,and didn´t knew what was in it….I certaily hope the Thailand police is so proffesionel,so they can find the criminals in this case.And release her…Terrible situation for a 21 year old girl..

  6. Statements on the “Go Fund Me” page are 100% contradictory.

    It claims first that “She started from scratch a local restaurant named Hot in the Biscuit … ” then goes on to say “… there was a package brought by a delivery man that was addressed to the man who used to own the business before Ashley ever entered the picture.”

    Obviously, BOTH CANNOT BE TRUE.

    Something certainly smells not quite right … a quick Google, and a quick read of ‘stickyboybkk’ which says that four similar parcels were found in her room and that the police and immigration were watching her and others they believed were involved in importing drugs, even naming the police involved who gave details.

    Either way, there’s no way this is as simple or clear-cut as the ‘GoFundMe’ page tries to suggest – there are more holes in their story than a Gruyere cheese.

    1. Four similar parcels found in her room unopened, should prove her innocence.
      If she was part of a drug gang she would have opened the parcels.
      A guy that used to own the business, could mean a different business at the same address.
      These contradiction you point out are just bad reporting.
      I think the police are guilty of fishing for bribes. They waited for the package to be claimed.
      Nobody arrived, so they arrested who they could.

  7. I suppose ignorance is not an excuse and she should not have signed for the packet in hindsight.

    The reason I am saying this re ignorance is I did not know people using international driving licences have a much lower drink-drive limit for alcohol compared to Thai driving licence holders in Thailand.

    So I had two small bottles of beer as I do in the UK and then drove as I would still be legal in the UK, I was then stopped and breathalyzed and was over the international drivers licence limit but under the Thai driving licence holders limit.

    My choice was to go to the jail overnight and then go to court the next day or pay 20,000 baht in cash now which I did, no receipt etc was issued so I guess it went into the back pocket of the police?

      1. Ynwaps

        It has taught me not to drink a single drop of alcohol while driving in Thailand that is for sure.

        Yet another reason not to spend money there.

        But I was not drunk, I was over the Thai limit for international driving licence holders but not for Thai driving licence holders.

        If you are telling me I was drunk then all Thai drivers who drink the same amount as I had are also drunk according to you but by law, they are still allowed to drive.

        It is quite funny really as driving tests are hard to pass in the UK and many Western countries but a ten-year-old could pass the Thai driving test as people just drive around a track for two minutes and answer some five-year-old questions.

        The limits should be the other way around re the drink driving limit.

    1. Absolute rubbish.

      The law is exactly the same for foreigners and for Thais. There is no “international drivers licence limit” or “Thai driving licence holders limit”.

      Those who’ve had a Thai driving licence for over five years have a limit of 0.5 ml, those who’ve had it for less have a limit of 0.2 ml.

      Many other countries have a similar system, including in the West.

      You had the choice of obeying the law and observing the DUI limit or breaking it. You deliberately chose to break it.

      You then had the choice of going to jail overnight and having a DUI record or bribing your way out if it. You deliberately chose bribery.

      … and now you’re complaining???

        1. My mind IS made up. As I commented, I thought quite clearly:

          “There is no “international drivers licence limit” or “Thai driving licence holders limit”.

          Those who’ve had a Thai driving licence for over five years have a limit of 0.5 ml, those who’ve had it for less have a limit of 0.2 ml.”

          If you have had a Thai driving licence for over five years there’s a limit of 0.5 ml.

          If you’ve had your licence for less, it’s 0.2 ml, whether it’s a Thai licence or an international one. It doesn’t make any difference if it’s a Thai one or an international one – it’s the period of time (less than five years) that counts, not the type of licence.

      1. Laos John

        So there is a limit for international drivers as most visitors to Thailand do not have Thai driving licences and by law have to use an International licence, so my info was correct, thanks for confirming it with the right figures.

        I did not deliberately break the law and assumed there was one limit for everyone, it must be a nice little earner for the police when catching out unsuspecting farang drivers.

        I am not complaining about the payoff as widespread corruption throughout Thailand is useful, for example when doing retrospective planning on a property or jumping to the head of a queue to have land surveyed works very well with a few baht in a plain white envelope.

        1. No, there is NO “limit for international drivers” so your information was wrong.

          The limit is dependent on the length of time that you’ve held the licence, nothing more, and it’s exactly the same for Thais and for foreigners.

          You broke the law and drove when DUI. That was your choice – nobody made you do it.

          1. Laos John

            The region an was part of Laos only a few generations ago.

            They still have their own language, their culture is different to the rest of Thailand. The rest of the Thais refer to them as Laos people.

            The official region of Thailand is referred to as Laos thai

            Most of the people living there originated from Laos

            99% of the bar girls working around the whole of Thailand originate from that region. Just ask them.

  8. I am a former Police Officer of 30 years. According to this report there is way insufficient evidence to support that charge. All she did was sign for a package addressed to another person.
    As I have lived in Thailand again this shows how inept some Police Investigators are. Could this be a case of racial profiling because she is a farang. Why not bail her she would stick out like a sore thumb and there are no flights out of Thailand. We have heard how good Thai Immigration are so any attempt to flee would be detected

  9. According to another site, the police found 4 more packages at her apartment (contrary to the story on the GoFundMe site) and she has signed a confession.

    Surprised there’s no mention of that, as the other site posted about it 3 days ago, with photos of the packages and the confession.

    1. Exactly. It appears the four other “parcels” were opened identical packaging. The whole episode, as reported and as in the GoFundMe page stinks.

      Either she opened and started the business herself, as the GFM page claims, or she joined the business as the GFM page also claims.

      She’s not out on bail because she has no money to pay for it – that’s what the GFM page is for.

      The only “unbelievable” part of this is farangs commenting here on how innocent she is based on nothing more than a GFM page trying to raise bail without even doing any homework, while taking the opportunity to bash Thailand about it and weep for the “poor girl” just because she’s white.

      On second thoughts, not “unbelievable” at all, but only to be expected.

      1. So you support the failed war on drugs? Even if she did know all this and was involved, there’s no reason she should ever see the inside of a court room. If you can show me a victim, some one she directly hurt, then ok sure. I don’t understand how you could think, my choices of what I chose to buy and consume, is some how your or someone else’s legal responsibility. How about individuals take responsibility over themselves. If you don’t want to buy and use drugs, no one is forcing you to. What someone else decides to do with their life is on them, but keep the government… the biggest most dangerous (drug dealing) gang out of the peoples business.

        Big govt is simply bad for all free people. All they do is steal and threaten us with violence. They don’t keep us safe.

        Take your bootlicking and gtfo here.

        Oh and by the way, I caught covid 19, a severe upper respiratory virus in Chiang mai last November. Just because it wasn’t reported in the media doesn’t mean that’s not what swept through town. In my opinion, it began in Wuhan in October and came straight to Thailand… to say mysteriously Thailand evaded it, is a b.s. its just not very dangerous except to that already unhealthy and old.

        1. It’s nothing to do with supporting “the failed war on drugs” or not.

          IT’S THE LAW.

          If you don’t like the law then either get it changed or don’t go to a country whose laws you don’t agree with.

        2. “and by the way, I caught covid 19, a severe upper respiratory virus in Chiang mai last November. Just because it wasn’t reported in the media doesn’t mean that’s not what swept through town”

          … of course you did … and, of course, you can identify it specifically using the tea leaves at the bottom of your cup … and, of course, it “swept through town” unreported and unnoticed by all except you …

          1. It was reported in the media as a rare dorm of pneumonia. I can no longer find those articles, but I read them. I’m not suggesting you believe me 100% but to consider my experience with a really nasty bug that infected at least 10-15 people in my immediate circle, all with similar symptoms, and the symptoms are similar to “covid 19”

            Do you really think I am just making this up to stir the pot. Do you really think the Thai authorities have been comprehensive truthful and transparent?

            I don’t know what there incentive would be for lying, but maybe how it was handled was for the best. I don’t know.

            I do know I got very sick with very similar symptoms to that of covid… now call me a liar.

  10. I mostly travel solo and one thing I’ve experienced in bars after having conversation and a few drinks with Whites is no matter what country they’re from,they start wanting to score some dope after a few good drinks. I’m not into that and don’t wanna be associated with’em so I get out of there after my drink.t

    There might be something more to the story than just signing for a package.

  11. For those who want to comment without bothering to even read the GFM site let alone any other reports, it may be worth noting that according to two named Samui police officers …

    She had four similar opened packages in her room.

    She had already been under surveillance by Thai drugs and immigration police and had been seen receiving the packages then hiding the contents under stones as a step in a drug distribution network.

    She has already signed a confession.

    1. It’s very basic she has signed for the packages ie received them, whether opened or not she is then responsible and culpable.

      It would be so easy for anyone to import/ship/post goods to themselves under a different name, then when caught make similar claims as this young lady has. After all most countries as a minimum have charges such as ‘receiving stolen goods’ and this is just an extension of that.

      In summary she either was fully aware of her actions or incredibly stupid, after all you are asked every time you get on a flight if you are carrying anything for anyone else and if you’ve packed your bags yourself it’s all the same ‘ the it’s not mine, I don’t know’ is no defense – so don’t carry things for people and don’t receive packages for others.

      1. Here in the UK it is standard to receive packages for others.

        If a parcel is delivered to a neighbour’s house and there is no one there the delivery man will kncok on one or more neighbours doors and it is normal to sign for it and take it in and then drop it off at the neighbours house later.

        We have only heard one side of the story, we have not been given the information the police have, plus according to Issan John she was already under investigation and four other packages have been found.

  12. doesnt mention whether the police are actively looking to arrested the ex boss who name was on the parcel she signed for ? and if not,why not ? it would certainly help to the young womans innocence

    1. Let’s at least be honest.

      1. If she was a fat, ugly old bat from the Philippines or Nigeria, not a young, attractive white girl, this would never have been newsworthy and never have attracted a link for donations to a GFM page with questionable credibility.

      2. If even a young, attractive white girl had been an illegal immigrant in the UK or the West and been working illegally, openly flouting the law, few of those rushing to her defence here would be doing so there – and none would once the allegations of involvement in drug dealing were reported.

      3. If a young Thai girl had been similarly working illegally in the UK or the West those rushing to this girl’s defence here would be the first to call for her to be arrested and deported there – and if similar alleged involvement in drug dealing had been reported, they’d be the first to call for her to be arrested and charged, and the key thrown away.

      Instead …..

    2. According to her own facebook page, she was the “boss” and always had been.

      Without jumping to any conclusions, this is beginning to sound more and more like “the boss did it then he ran away” … except, unfortunately, her facebook and the GFM pages say there was no “boss”.

      Awkward …..

  13. I doubt she is a dug dealer. Drug dealers would not work hard at running a cafe.
    Drug dealers sit around being drunk or drugged and selling drugs.
    Young girls of her age can often be misled, persuaded, and manipulated.
    However in my personal experience not often by me.
    Unfortunately.

  14. “I do know I got very sick with very similar symptoms to that of covid… now call me a liar”

    Not calling you “a liar”, Jack, simply pointing out that just because you had “a really nasty bug that infected at least 10-15 people in my immediate circle, all with similar symptoms, and the symptoms are similar to “covid 19”” that there’s no rational justification for you i) claiming that it was Covid-19 and, ii) even less for claiming that because no-one died of your “bug” and its flu-like symptoms that means Covid-19 is no worse than the flu.

    I’m not suggesting you’re “a liar”, just that you’re making an absurd and completely unjustifiable connection where there is none, and drawing an even more absurd and baseless conclusion from that non-existent connection …

    … followed, as if that wasn’t bad enough, by the suggestion that since no-one else noticed it must all be a conspiracy …

    No, not “a liar”, but …

    1. A white criminal commits a crime and all the bigots come out to defend her,lol , white people are all criminals, so funny , if it were a Nigerian, chinese , Philippino , I’m sure they’re guilty without court. Lol , useless yellow orangutans

    2. the timing of when the virus first appeared in China, in October, the massive amounts of Chinese tourists coming to Thailand, not having been that sick in like a decade, symptoms identical to that of covid. Its quite a rational conclusion to think it was covid. I do not believe the Thai covid numbers or reporting at all based on my personal experience.

      It is very possible it was here and wasn’t reported much earlier than the msm is reporting.

      So sure, I don’t know and may never know, but I find the similarities of the symptoms and timing to directly coincide with it being covid brought from China, etc.

      1. Only “rational” if you cherry-pick to the point of absurdity and ignore everything to the contrary.

        Just prior to your “bug” there were a number of reports in Chaing Mai of cases of serious chikungunya infections; these were all reported in the local and national news media.

        Also just prior to your “bug” there was such a serious ongoing flu outbreak in Chiang Mai that on 21 August the Faculty of Medicine at Chiang Mai University held a press conference about it, also reported in the news media.

        The first reports of the then yet to be identified Covid-19 virus in China were over one month after you’d experienced your “bug”, with Chinese visitors to Chiang Mai identified two months later.

        The symptoms of your “bug” overlap with the milder symptoms of Covid-19, just as they do with the main symptoms of serious flu and chikungunya. It would not be unreasonable to think that it could be any of the three.

        What would be completely UNreasonable, though, would be to then conclude that because what you experienced was no worse than flu, so Covid-19 is no worse than flu. That’s not “rational” in any way. It’s like saying that because all mice are mammals, so it follows that all mammals are mice.

        1. My mother in law in USA caught it last week. Same symptoms as I had, affidavit without the cough, but the rest is matching. My symptoms were not that of chikungunya.

          My old mother in law is already recovering, never went to the hospital, aside for the test. Well idk where she was tested. She didn’t need any treatment or medication aside from rest and a simple diet/fluids.

          Its just the flu bro.

          It was 99% likely to have been covid and it was not truthfully reported in the media… probably because its not dangerous. Or, it goes against the lock down timing and narrative Thai want… see we did a great job handing the virus that already swept through 6 months earlier…

          1. “Its just the flu bro.”

            Of course it is. None of those dead and dying from it are really dead – they’re just having a little rest.

            I’ve come across a few conspiracy theory morons before, but … God Almighty …?

  15. Lock her up immediately, all this white people are everywhere selling drugs and hiding behind legit businesses, how do they get visa here ? The hypocrisy of yellow orangutans from Europe and elsewhere is funny, I’ve read of multiple yellow orangutans commit heinous crimes but other orangutans will defend them and blame the police , but as soon as its other race or country , they’ll tar all with same brush,lol, lock her up , more to go.

  16. 3000usd will not get her out,for bail she needs at least 17000us/500000thb for a bail out and then need to wait until her trial and even she get away with a slap she will be deported, to prof inoncend with drugs in your possession it’s hard to prof otherwise….I say this from my own experience…sorry for her

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Caitlin Ashworth

Caitlin Ashworth is a writer from the United States who has lived in Thailand since 2018. She graduated from the University of South Florida St. Petersburg with a bachelor’s degree in journalism and media studies in 2016. She was a reporter for the Daily Hampshire Gazette In Massachusetts. She also interned at the Richmond Times-Dispatch in Virginia and Sarasota Herald-Tribune in Florida.

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    1. Exactly! Someone was jealous of her success or was getting revenge for some trifling matter. Maybe a competitor or ex boyfriend/girlfriend, rival, etc. I hope she gets out of the joint soon. A pretty girl like this may not last long in there!

    1. I dont understand your poor comment. Thailand have hard law against drugs and that’s good, if she innocent the justice will act but nobody knows the true story.
      Thailand is not perfect but “this will accelerate your downfall”is so poor of reflection.
      Thailand don’t need western tourist to survive thanks God there is an Asian market much bigger and without the old farang spirit like yours

      1. Agreed 100 %. It’s strange that everytime they arrest a drug trafficker etc. they claim to be innocent. A recent case in Kampot, Cambodia had a Brit arrested because he had a parcel sent from the UK containing Ecstacy Drugs. Who on this planet would send drugs from Britain to Cambodia when they are much cheaper there ? I also don’t see how she can get out of prison with a 3000 USD payment. If she is convicted she can spend a long time in places like the Bangkok Hilton.

  1. We don’t know all the details, but in a fair jury trial in a democratic society, guilt and intent would be very hard if not impossible to legitimately prove. I know based on these details she her self has not actually harmed single person. If someone got their hands on it, ingested it on their own will, they are ultimately responsible for their own self. But it the new globalist prison planet, you are now held liable for everyone else’s choices, actions, and their consequences.

    The drug war is a failure and waste of tax money. We need proper safety education and awareness, not more prisons or more draconian laws for victimless crimes. Legalize all drugs.

    1. “and by the way, I caught covid 19, a severe upper respiratory virus in Chiang mai last November. Just because it wasn’t reported in the media doesn’t mean that’s not what swept through town”

      … of course you did … and, of course, you can identify it specifically using the tea leaves at the bottom of your cup … and, of course, it “swept through town” unreported and unnoticed by all except you …

        1. If i sell you bleach, and you decide to drink it… that’s my responsibility if you get hurt? If I sell you a gun, alcohol, a car, a knife, and you use it in a way that hurts you or someone else… im the one who should be guilty?

          And somehow drugs are an exception to this, and when used safely, cause virtually no harm to the individual or society, especially when compared to alcohol.

          Also, do explain how countries that have legalized all drugs see addictions rates drop, drug prices drop and the general crime surrounding addiction drop, and not by a little, as much as 90%, like Portugal. Offer counseling and help etc, is the wrong way to go, and using precious tax dollars to investigate, arrest, jail is the right way to go, especially knowing it has become a massive for profit industry with the incentive to jail as many individuals as possible.

          Give me freedom or give me death. I don’t want to live a bootlicking world where everybody/thing that doesn’t go through a govt body first is illegal. Where at any minute, drugs can be planted on me and I spend the rest of my life as a political prisoner. That’s no way to run the world or society.

          Take some personal responsibility for YOUR actions, choices, and accept the potential consequences of them.

    2. Legalize Drugs ? My arse ! Seeing all these western Zombies roaming the streets of south east asia is every reason to follow the path of the Philippines instead. PM Duterte got it right . You traffick , use drugs …….. your dead ! This will save the society lots of money and keep their kids away from junkies.

  2. Ask yourself this question. Why did the police raid the shop. I’ve never seen any police except on the roads. Clearly something was going on.

    Some one was informing someone. If the package is for her former boss, where was he. If he’s a former boss, why was it addressed to him. If he doesn’t work there.

    Not very clear whats going on, but $3000 won’t get her out of anything in Thailand if its drug related it might buy her some snacks in prison though

  3. The Thai system seems to not use terms like felony and misdemeanour, or civil case, everything seems to be described as “criminal”, which sounds like a poor translation. There’s no real way to have known that merely signing for a delivery would make you culpable. My niece, at school, has signed for a courier package for me, it’s hardly anything to do with her. The main issue is that tourism-hungry countries are finding it harder to control negative news, and it’s in their own interests to take steps to prevent people from being put off from visiting in future. COVID is proving to be a decimator of jobs in tourism-related industries, bad news stories are left high and dry for all to see, and when it comes to choosing a place to go and relax and spend money, places that do people over are running out of political capital fast.

    1. “The Thai system seems to not use terms like felony and misdemeanour, or civil case, everything seems to be described as “criminal”, which sounds like a poor translation.”

      Wrong. Complete and utter rubbish.

  4. Where is the “former friend” she signed the package for? That’s a peculiar way to refer to someone in my opinion.
    Do they still see each other or talk?
    If they do, then logically they should arrest the friend too.
    If not, then it looks like she was being too clever for her own good.

    1. The real issue, is I can post anything to anyone without their knowledge. Does that make the reciever guilty because their name was on the package? No it doesn’t. This is WHY drugs are sent in the mail. And its not about who they should go after. If you don’t want the risks that come with doing drugs, don’t do them and you will be fine. The reality is drug awareness, education and the use of drugs really isn’t an issue. If the person on the drugs hurts someone, then they’re a criminal until then, they’re just another partner. Who am i to tell some one else what can and cannot consume.

  5. You don´t have to be a police detective,to see that she is innocent…The packed was send to a man,she just got it,and didn´t knew what was in it….I certaily hope the Thailand police is so proffesionel,so they can find the criminals in this case.And release her…Terrible situation for a 21 year old girl..

  6. Statements on the “Go Fund Me” page are 100% contradictory.

    It claims first that “She started from scratch a local restaurant named Hot in the Biscuit … ” then goes on to say “… there was a package brought by a delivery man that was addressed to the man who used to own the business before Ashley ever entered the picture.”

    Obviously, BOTH CANNOT BE TRUE.

    Something certainly smells not quite right … a quick Google, and a quick read of ‘stickyboybkk’ which says that four similar parcels were found in her room and that the police and immigration were watching her and others they believed were involved in importing drugs, even naming the police involved who gave details.

    Either way, there’s no way this is as simple or clear-cut as the ‘GoFundMe’ page tries to suggest – there are more holes in their story than a Gruyere cheese.

    1. Four similar parcels found in her room unopened, should prove her innocence.
      If she was part of a drug gang she would have opened the parcels.
      A guy that used to own the business, could mean a different business at the same address.
      These contradiction you point out are just bad reporting.
      I think the police are guilty of fishing for bribes. They waited for the package to be claimed.
      Nobody arrived, so they arrested who they could.

  7. I suppose ignorance is not an excuse and she should not have signed for the packet in hindsight.

    The reason I am saying this re ignorance is I did not know people using international driving licences have a much lower drink-drive limit for alcohol compared to Thai driving licence holders in Thailand.

    So I had two small bottles of beer as I do in the UK and then drove as I would still be legal in the UK, I was then stopped and breathalyzed and was over the international drivers licence limit but under the Thai driving licence holders limit.

    My choice was to go to the jail overnight and then go to court the next day or pay 20,000 baht in cash now which I did, no receipt etc was issued so I guess it went into the back pocket of the police?

      1. Ynwaps

        It has taught me not to drink a single drop of alcohol while driving in Thailand that is for sure.

        Yet another reason not to spend money there.

        But I was not drunk, I was over the Thai limit for international driving licence holders but not for Thai driving licence holders.

        If you are telling me I was drunk then all Thai drivers who drink the same amount as I had are also drunk according to you but by law, they are still allowed to drive.

        It is quite funny really as driving tests are hard to pass in the UK and many Western countries but a ten-year-old could pass the Thai driving test as people just drive around a track for two minutes and answer some five-year-old questions.

        The limits should be the other way around re the drink driving limit.

    1. Absolute rubbish.

      The law is exactly the same for foreigners and for Thais. There is no “international drivers licence limit” or “Thai driving licence holders limit”.

      Those who’ve had a Thai driving licence for over five years have a limit of 0.5 ml, those who’ve had it for less have a limit of 0.2 ml.

      Many other countries have a similar system, including in the West.

      You had the choice of obeying the law and observing the DUI limit or breaking it. You deliberately chose to break it.

      You then had the choice of going to jail overnight and having a DUI record or bribing your way out if it. You deliberately chose bribery.

      … and now you’re complaining???

        1. My mind IS made up. As I commented, I thought quite clearly:

          “There is no “international drivers licence limit” or “Thai driving licence holders limit”.

          Those who’ve had a Thai driving licence for over five years have a limit of 0.5 ml, those who’ve had it for less have a limit of 0.2 ml.”

          If you have had a Thai driving licence for over five years there’s a limit of 0.5 ml.

          If you’ve had your licence for less, it’s 0.2 ml, whether it’s a Thai licence or an international one. It doesn’t make any difference if it’s a Thai one or an international one – it’s the period of time (less than five years) that counts, not the type of licence.

      1. Laos John

        So there is a limit for international drivers as most visitors to Thailand do not have Thai driving licences and by law have to use an International licence, so my info was correct, thanks for confirming it with the right figures.

        I did not deliberately break the law and assumed there was one limit for everyone, it must be a nice little earner for the police when catching out unsuspecting farang drivers.

        I am not complaining about the payoff as widespread corruption throughout Thailand is useful, for example when doing retrospective planning on a property or jumping to the head of a queue to have land surveyed works very well with a few baht in a plain white envelope.

        1. No, there is NO “limit for international drivers” so your information was wrong.

          The limit is dependent on the length of time that you’ve held the licence, nothing more, and it’s exactly the same for Thais and for foreigners.

          You broke the law and drove when DUI. That was your choice – nobody made you do it.

          1. Laos John

            The region an was part of Laos only a few generations ago.

            They still have their own language, their culture is different to the rest of Thailand. The rest of the Thais refer to them as Laos people.

            The official region of Thailand is referred to as Laos thai

            Most of the people living there originated from Laos

            99% of the bar girls working around the whole of Thailand originate from that region. Just ask them.

  8. I am a former Police Officer of 30 years. According to this report there is way insufficient evidence to support that charge. All she did was sign for a package addressed to another person.
    As I have lived in Thailand again this shows how inept some Police Investigators are. Could this be a case of racial profiling because she is a farang. Why not bail her she would stick out like a sore thumb and there are no flights out of Thailand. We have heard how good Thai Immigration are so any attempt to flee would be detected

  9. According to another site, the police found 4 more packages at her apartment (contrary to the story on the GoFundMe site) and she has signed a confession.

    Surprised there’s no mention of that, as the other site posted about it 3 days ago, with photos of the packages and the confession.

    1. Exactly. It appears the four other “parcels” were opened identical packaging. The whole episode, as reported and as in the GoFundMe page stinks.

      Either she opened and started the business herself, as the GFM page claims, or she joined the business as the GFM page also claims.

      She’s not out on bail because she has no money to pay for it – that’s what the GFM page is for.

      The only “unbelievable” part of this is farangs commenting here on how innocent she is based on nothing more than a GFM page trying to raise bail without even doing any homework, while taking the opportunity to bash Thailand about it and weep for the “poor girl” just because she’s white.

      On second thoughts, not “unbelievable” at all, but only to be expected.

      1. So you support the failed war on drugs? Even if she did know all this and was involved, there’s no reason she should ever see the inside of a court room. If you can show me a victim, some one she directly hurt, then ok sure. I don’t understand how you could think, my choices of what I chose to buy and consume, is some how your or someone else’s legal responsibility. How about individuals take responsibility over themselves. If you don’t want to buy and use drugs, no one is forcing you to. What someone else decides to do with their life is on them, but keep the government… the biggest most dangerous (drug dealing) gang out of the peoples business.

        Big govt is simply bad for all free people. All they do is steal and threaten us with violence. They don’t keep us safe.

        Take your bootlicking and gtfo here.

        Oh and by the way, I caught covid 19, a severe upper respiratory virus in Chiang mai last November. Just because it wasn’t reported in the media doesn’t mean that’s not what swept through town. In my opinion, it began in Wuhan in October and came straight to Thailand… to say mysteriously Thailand evaded it, is a b.s. its just not very dangerous except to that already unhealthy and old.

        1. It’s nothing to do with supporting “the failed war on drugs” or not.

          IT’S THE LAW.

          If you don’t like the law then either get it changed or don’t go to a country whose laws you don’t agree with.

        2. “and by the way, I caught covid 19, a severe upper respiratory virus in Chiang mai last November. Just because it wasn’t reported in the media doesn’t mean that’s not what swept through town”

          … of course you did … and, of course, you can identify it specifically using the tea leaves at the bottom of your cup … and, of course, it “swept through town” unreported and unnoticed by all except you …

          1. It was reported in the media as a rare dorm of pneumonia. I can no longer find those articles, but I read them. I’m not suggesting you believe me 100% but to consider my experience with a really nasty bug that infected at least 10-15 people in my immediate circle, all with similar symptoms, and the symptoms are similar to “covid 19”

            Do you really think I am just making this up to stir the pot. Do you really think the Thai authorities have been comprehensive truthful and transparent?

            I don’t know what there incentive would be for lying, but maybe how it was handled was for the best. I don’t know.

            I do know I got very sick with very similar symptoms to that of covid… now call me a liar.

  10. I mostly travel solo and one thing I’ve experienced in bars after having conversation and a few drinks with Whites is no matter what country they’re from,they start wanting to score some dope after a few good drinks. I’m not into that and don’t wanna be associated with’em so I get out of there after my drink.t

    There might be something more to the story than just signing for a package.

  11. For those who want to comment without bothering to even read the GFM site let alone any other reports, it may be worth noting that according to two named Samui police officers …

    She had four similar opened packages in her room.

    She had already been under surveillance by Thai drugs and immigration police and had been seen receiving the packages then hiding the contents under stones as a step in a drug distribution network.

    She has already signed a confession.

    1. It’s very basic she has signed for the packages ie received them, whether opened or not she is then responsible and culpable.

      It would be so easy for anyone to import/ship/post goods to themselves under a different name, then when caught make similar claims as this young lady has. After all most countries as a minimum have charges such as ‘receiving stolen goods’ and this is just an extension of that.

      In summary she either was fully aware of her actions or incredibly stupid, after all you are asked every time you get on a flight if you are carrying anything for anyone else and if you’ve packed your bags yourself it’s all the same ‘ the it’s not mine, I don’t know’ is no defense – so don’t carry things for people and don’t receive packages for others.

      1. Here in the UK it is standard to receive packages for others.

        If a parcel is delivered to a neighbour’s house and there is no one there the delivery man will kncok on one or more neighbours doors and it is normal to sign for it and take it in and then drop it off at the neighbours house later.

        We have only heard one side of the story, we have not been given the information the police have, plus according to Issan John she was already under investigation and four other packages have been found.

  12. doesnt mention whether the police are actively looking to arrested the ex boss who name was on the parcel she signed for ? and if not,why not ? it would certainly help to the young womans innocence

    1. Let’s at least be honest.

      1. If she was a fat, ugly old bat from the Philippines or Nigeria, not a young, attractive white girl, this would never have been newsworthy and never have attracted a link for donations to a GFM page with questionable credibility.

      2. If even a young, attractive white girl had been an illegal immigrant in the UK or the West and been working illegally, openly flouting the law, few of those rushing to her defence here would be doing so there – and none would once the allegations of involvement in drug dealing were reported.

      3. If a young Thai girl had been similarly working illegally in the UK or the West those rushing to this girl’s defence here would be the first to call for her to be arrested and deported there – and if similar alleged involvement in drug dealing had been reported, they’d be the first to call for her to be arrested and charged, and the key thrown away.

      Instead …..

    2. According to her own facebook page, she was the “boss” and always had been.

      Without jumping to any conclusions, this is beginning to sound more and more like “the boss did it then he ran away” … except, unfortunately, her facebook and the GFM pages say there was no “boss”.

      Awkward …..

  13. I doubt she is a dug dealer. Drug dealers would not work hard at running a cafe.
    Drug dealers sit around being drunk or drugged and selling drugs.
    Young girls of her age can often be misled, persuaded, and manipulated.
    However in my personal experience not often by me.
    Unfortunately.

  14. “I do know I got very sick with very similar symptoms to that of covid… now call me a liar”

    Not calling you “a liar”, Jack, simply pointing out that just because you had “a really nasty bug that infected at least 10-15 people in my immediate circle, all with similar symptoms, and the symptoms are similar to “covid 19”” that there’s no rational justification for you i) claiming that it was Covid-19 and, ii) even less for claiming that because no-one died of your “bug” and its flu-like symptoms that means Covid-19 is no worse than the flu.

    I’m not suggesting you’re “a liar”, just that you’re making an absurd and completely unjustifiable connection where there is none, and drawing an even more absurd and baseless conclusion from that non-existent connection …

    … followed, as if that wasn’t bad enough, by the suggestion that since no-one else noticed it must all be a conspiracy …

    No, not “a liar”, but …

    1. A white criminal commits a crime and all the bigots come out to defend her,lol , white people are all criminals, so funny , if it were a Nigerian, chinese , Philippino , I’m sure they’re guilty without court. Lol , useless yellow orangutans

    2. the timing of when the virus first appeared in China, in October, the massive amounts of Chinese tourists coming to Thailand, not having been that sick in like a decade, symptoms identical to that of covid. Its quite a rational conclusion to think it was covid. I do not believe the Thai covid numbers or reporting at all based on my personal experience.

      It is very possible it was here and wasn’t reported much earlier than the msm is reporting.

      So sure, I don’t know and may never know, but I find the similarities of the symptoms and timing to directly coincide with it being covid brought from China, etc.

      1. Only “rational” if you cherry-pick to the point of absurdity and ignore everything to the contrary.

        Just prior to your “bug” there were a number of reports in Chaing Mai of cases of serious chikungunya infections; these were all reported in the local and national news media.

        Also just prior to your “bug” there was such a serious ongoing flu outbreak in Chiang Mai that on 21 August the Faculty of Medicine at Chiang Mai University held a press conference about it, also reported in the news media.

        The first reports of the then yet to be identified Covid-19 virus in China were over one month after you’d experienced your “bug”, with Chinese visitors to Chiang Mai identified two months later.

        The symptoms of your “bug” overlap with the milder symptoms of Covid-19, just as they do with the main symptoms of serious flu and chikungunya. It would not be unreasonable to think that it could be any of the three.

        What would be completely UNreasonable, though, would be to then conclude that because what you experienced was no worse than flu, so Covid-19 is no worse than flu. That’s not “rational” in any way. It’s like saying that because all mice are mammals, so it follows that all mammals are mice.

        1. My mother in law in USA caught it last week. Same symptoms as I had, affidavit without the cough, but the rest is matching. My symptoms were not that of chikungunya.

          My old mother in law is already recovering, never went to the hospital, aside for the test. Well idk where she was tested. She didn’t need any treatment or medication aside from rest and a simple diet/fluids.

          Its just the flu bro.

          It was 99% likely to have been covid and it was not truthfully reported in the media… probably because its not dangerous. Or, it goes against the lock down timing and narrative Thai want… see we did a great job handing the virus that already swept through 6 months earlier…

          1. “Its just the flu bro.”

            Of course it is. None of those dead and dying from it are really dead – they’re just having a little rest.

            I’ve come across a few conspiracy theory morons before, but … God Almighty …?

  15. Lock her up immediately, all this white people are everywhere selling drugs and hiding behind legit businesses, how do they get visa here ? The hypocrisy of yellow orangutans from Europe and elsewhere is funny, I’ve read of multiple yellow orangutans commit heinous crimes but other orangutans will defend them and blame the police , but as soon as its other race or country , they’ll tar all with same brush,lol, lock her up , more to go.

  16. 3000usd will not get her out,for bail she needs at least 17000us/500000thb for a bail out and then need to wait until her trial and even she get away with a slap she will be deported, to prof inoncend with drugs in your possession it’s hard to prof otherwise….I say this from my own experience…sorry for her

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