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More positive news in Covid fight as second vaccine found to be nearly 95% effective

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Health officials around the world are sounding more cautious notes of optimism, with news that US company Moderna has found its Covid-19 candidate vaccine to be 94.5% effective in clinical trials. Following results last week that a vaccine developed by US firm Pfizer, in conjunction with its German partner BioNTech, had an effectiveness rate of 90%, both developments would appear to indicate a light at the end of the long dark Covid tunnel. The news comes as global Covid-19 cases top 54 million, with more than 1.3 million people killed by the virus.

Although both vaccines have been developed using the same methodology, a significant difference is that the Moderna vaccine can be kept refrigerated at a temperature of between 2 – 8 degrees Celsius for up to 30 days, or in a freezer at -20 degrees Celsius for up to 6 months. The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, on the other hand, requires storage at around -75 degrees Celsius, potentially creating a distribution nightmare.

Moderna CEO, Stephane Bancel, has hailed the latest results from the firm’s Phase 3 trials.

“This positive interim analysis from our Phase 3 study has given us the first clinical validation that our vaccine can prevent Covid-19 disease, including severe disease.”

The Bangkok Post reports that Moderna plans to request emergency approval for worldwide distribution within weeks, with the aim of having around 20 million doses ready for US distribution by year end. The vaccine needs to be administered in 2 doses, 28 days apart. What’s yet to be determined is how long immunity from either the Moderna or Pfizer vaccines will last, as well as their effectiveness in the elderly, who are most at risk from Covid-19.

The latest Moderna results are based on 95 out of a total of 30,000 who contracted the virus. Out of the 95, 90 had not been given the candidate vaccine, but instead received a placebo. The other 5 did receive the vaccine. None of the 11 volunteers who fell seriously ill with Covid-19 had received the vaccine.

Vaccine side-effects were also reported to be mild or moderate in most cases. After the first dose was administered, around 3% reported severe pain at the injection site. After the second dose, side-effects reported as severe included fatigue in 10% of volunteers, muscle pain in 9%, joint pain or headaches in 5%, other pain in 4%, and redness at the site of the injection in 2%. It’s understood all side-effects were short-lived.

SOURCE: Bangkok Post

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  1. If we add all these %, it makes 33%… so 1 out of 3 had side-effects…

    30 000 people? That seems to me an unrealistic and far too low number to draw any positive picture for a vaccin of this importance…

    As the Thaiger mentions it, “What’s yet to be determined is how long immunity from either the Moderna or Pfizer vaccines will last, as well as their effectiveness in the elderly, who are most at risk from Covid-19.” – So basically what a vacin mostly should be for: immunity and protecting the most vulnerable (whom make the vast majority of people dying from covid 19). Well that is not “determined”… brillant!!

    The CEO and other executives of Pfizer sold shares worth millions the day after the annoucement of the firm last week (some even say the day before but I found no real proof of that). The french CEO of Moderna (he owns also 9% of it) literally became a billionnaire after the shares of Moderna went over the roof following this latest announcement (and previous ones).

    Whether we are for or against vaccins for this virus or in general, I must admit that it is getting hard to give any credit to these announcements (we had loads since March, most of them were untrue, others we never heard any following since, but some made millions out of them anyhow).

    1. “If we add all these %, it makes 33%… so 1 out of 3 had side-effects…”

      No, that’s impossible to know from the information given as it could have been as high as 33% if none had more than one side-effect or as low as 10% if those who had “fatigue” had other side effects as well.

      I DO AGREE WITH YOU 100%, though, that NONE of the important statistics appear to have been released by either Pfizer, BioNTech or Moderna, namely what level of protection any give to those likely to be most affected by the virus, whether it stops asymptomatic infections and transmission, and how long it lasts.

      Without knowing all of those, the vaccination is effectively a completely unknown quantity apart from its side effects and I certainly wouldn’t even consider having a vaccine under those circumstances in case something better came along which I would be unable to have as I’d already been vaccinated.

      Given the results for the placebos of only 90 infections out of 15,000 for Moderna, in the US so a 0.006% infection rate, with only 11 being “serious” (presumably hospitalized)and no deaths even the placebos seem remarkably effective – and Pfizer / BioNTech’s results are very similar.

      I’m not joining the conspiracy theorists, but these announcements don’t just seem premature but to be deliberately economical with the truth in order to make a short term massive profit for the companies before they’ve even produced anything proven to be worth having.

    2. Well said. I totally agree. In addition, no corona vaccine has been successful in the past. To be so completely positive that these two will be is to be motivated by politics and profits and not medical science.

      It can take months before the results of the vaccine are manifested. And even longer to see if there will be vaccine injuries. This first mRNA vaccine is a scary proposition and should have trials for several years before being injected into people.

  2. For the sake of humanity, many nations are in a hurry to produce the vaccine for this deadly virus as well as seeking this as an excuse to beat each other and make a big profit to increase their Coronavirus-shattered economy. Russia’s liquid vaccine shot is 92 percent effective, but the globally produced vaccine is scrambling to figure out how to ship and store their vials and they are trying to do this at minus 70 degrees Celsius equal to Antarctic weather by lyophilization process, and if the results are pleasant as they are going to be then Russia and the whole world will be under a major relief.

    1. Where do you get the data from showing that Russia’s vaccine (Sputnik V) is 92% effective?

      The only data they’ve given is that there were 20 cases from 16,000 volunteers,including those who received the placebo – that’s as useless as the “data”, if you can call it that, released by Pfizer, BioNTech et al.

  3. Many countries are developing the vaccine for the health of human society and believe it is adequate to deal with the virus. The globally produced vaccine is scrambling to figure out how to ship and store their vials and Russia’s liquid vaccine shot is 92% effective and they are trying to do this at minus 70 degree Celsius equal to Antarctic weather by lyophilization process, and if the results are pleasant as they are going to be then Russia and the whole world will be under a major relief.

  4. Amelia, you keep talking about “this deadly virus,” right? Well, could you please provide (as others have been asked) some, nay, any evidence that it does actually exist? Thank you.

    As for vaccines, please feel free to get into the queue and line up. However, I would recommend that you do some research into what will be injected into your blood stream. Start by checking out what the ingredients actually are, and then run them in a decent search engine and what the after effects might possible be.

    1. AI, the “evidence” is the opinion of several million doctors and all the hospitals that have taken those they believe to be Covid-19 patients into the wards and ICUs at the expense of other patients.

      Most people with a working brain cell would accept that they’re unlikely to all be wrong or all “in on it”.

      You like to think you know better than any of them – so maybe, instead of asking others for answers while refusing to give any yourself, you could explain why you think they’re all wrong.

      … or maybe not …

      1. Well it certainly exists, but its also certainly not deadly. Inconvenient yes, but most of its inconvenience is a direct result of human actions which seem to be copy pasted all over the world. A global narrative which something like the yearly flu never gets (o we are forbidden to compare it with Influenza, sorry). A constant search for the virus and a giant spotlight on any related events happening. You can make something bigger than it really is. Im pretty sure covid19 can be found in Thailand if someone cares to look for it. It just isnt as effective spreading in open ventilated environments. Heck, even an elderly Thai with flu symptoms was not checked for covid19. If it is here, its certainly a sign things can go on without mass hysteria. Thailand loves to make it a foreign problem while having zero intention of saving tourism and related businesses. Economy has and will continue to get a butt kick down from central Bangkok… Madness 2020.

      2. Well, show me a reputable source to go to! Simple as that! What should I look under?
        “several million doctors” is that what one should look for? 55!

        And your ad hominem attacks and time wasting attempts have been noted. Such dated and old tactics are made by juniors such as you…….
        Thought you were smarter that that for the cheerleader of scaring the bejeezus out of everybody. Yum…5 😉

        Who are you working for IJohn?

        1. AI, I’ve tried to do you the courtesy of asking you simple, easy to answer questions such as whether you think several million doctors and the hospitals are all wrong, but all I get in return is this crap about it not being proved to your satisfaction and directed to a nutjob climate denier website run by two certifiable fruitcakes with no verifiable scientific qualifications between them.

          Sorry, but it’s a question of who’s the bigger fool – the fool, or the fool who argues with him, and I just can’t be bothered – I get a more rational response from the local dogs.

          1. Yeah, I agree you probably would, but I prefer unlike you, not to hang around with dogs….. 😉

            Still waiting for your proof. You were asked this question about 3 weeks back and you never came up with absolute nothing/squat. What are you going to pawn/fob me off with this time…?

    2. AI

      Proof? My mother in law died due to the virus, doctors not nutters detected it in her body, she went downhill very quickly and died as a result.

      Her daughter who is my sister in law was OK, then suddenly she had problems breathing, lost her sense of smell and taste, they detected the virus and now she is in an induced coma, on a life support machine which is doing the breathing for her. (55 years old).

      Her sister who is my wife has the virus but has no symptoms, she is self-isolating in another property we have as she does not want to infect her son.

      My son and I were found to be negative after a test.

      How much fuc**** more proof do idiots and mental cases like you need?

      1. James, it’s pointless. These morons (and I’m being very generous there) don’t realise or even care how insulting their crap is to people who’ve lost family and friends to Covid-19, or to the medical profession who are putting their own lives at risk every day to try to save others.

        For the first time in their sad lives, though, they’ve got people listening to them and that’s all they care about. The absolute dregs of humanity.

      2. James, sorry to hear about your MIL, but can you or anyone of the “boys who cry wolf” just provide one source where anyone can go to check this out? And no need to use The Brit and Irish govt.’s have been asked for evidence again and again and yet you and boy-john, keep on waffling on about it being real. Evidence that we can chew on. And no need to start using the ‘f’ word pal.

        Simply put in this headline…… and learn

        ‘Ireland Joins UK Govt. In Refusing To Confirm COVID19 Even Exists!’ You will get a links to a website called principia scientific.

        “It’s been a hectic day here at Principia Scientific International. We can now assert that we have sufficient evidence to show that major English-speaking nations have NO EVIDENCE to prove the virus that causes COVID19 even exists!

        As such, we are now officially calling this out as a HOAX. Any business injured by government policy not already legally represented is cordially invited to contact us to help arrange assistance in legal remedies.

        Earlier today we posted a story revealing that the ‘UK’s Government Office For Science Admits No Proof Of Isolated ‘COVID-19 Virus.’ Alongside that we posted how a top ‘NZ University was Exposed In False Claim Of Identifying COVID19 Virus.’

        While yesterday we shared with readers evidence showing that COVID19 Is Really A CDC Computer-Generated ‘Virus’ and the shocking admission from the United States’ Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) which admitted in an official document that”

        Just provide the PROOF, never mind people you know who have been told died because of this or John’s MILLIONS of doctors know (but which he seems to have no proof of still). Waiting, waiting and waiting more…….

        PS – This con-vid hasn’t even been isolated yet, for gawdsakes………….

        1. January 2, 2020. The entire genome of the Covid-19 was published by Shi Zhengli of the Chinese Centre for Disease Control, according to a notice posted on the institute’s website. It has since been confirmed and verified by scientists around the world.

          1. So, why wasn’t it sent to the British and Irish govt.s? They’re STILL refusing to comment on any requests. Maybe you should send it and help them out! And you’re trusting the outstanding bulwarks of truth a Chinese CDC? Remember? This is where this whole caper comes from! BTW – Have you seen what’s going down in Wuhan and elsewhere? Check out ‘parties in wuhan’ on a search engine and see what comes up. And no, it’s not any kospiwacy websites, but CNN, BBC, the Guardian etc. etc….. I dare you to take a peek….. 😉

            And if this deadly virus, is so, so ….deadly, how come so much has been covered and time spent on it when there’s only a very minimal amount of people who are and will be affected? 99.9 % of people will not fall for it ever…if it exists! Want some proof?……

        2. Issan John ….. yes true, I can only assume is it some sort of insanity.

          I know, maybe death does not exist, it just a hoax, LOL.

          Maybe none of us are actually alive, we are just a government hoax?

          To Al, you wrote just a lot of nonsense found on the internet, it is just brainless waffle, not an ounce of proof, logic, or commonsense.

          1. To james,….moi? You still have absolute nothing of what I asked from peer reviewed sources….. NUFFIN.

            “nonsense on the internet”? Is that right, jimmy. Please right here where us misguided and lost souls should go for the “real truth”……come on jimmy, lest’s see what you have…. 😉

    1. Good question, but mercury is one of the most dangerous sources to be on the skin, never mind in one’s blood stream. Lead is also something which literally can “drive you mad”…….. Check out the meaning of the Mad Hatter in the tales of where Alice fell. 😉

  5. Lock it all down.
    Update, Tokyo covid explosion
    Foreign flights means MORE Deaths.
    The tourism industry can rot. The health system can not.
    Close it all down NOW. Nobody gets off an international flight

  6. – nobody knows the side effects of a never before used vaccine (MRNA)
    governments will be responsible so in tghe end the tax payer and it will be very
    difficult to proof it as they may occur years later

    – never before was a vaccine developed in such a short amount of time

    – the collateral damage will outnumber the covid deaths by far

    – fatality rate is between 0,1-0,3% (according to a recent WHO published study summarising over 60 studies from around the world)

    Yes, every death is a tragedy but we can’t handle the world with a monocausal view only on one possible cause of death

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  1. If we add all these %, it makes 33%… so 1 out of 3 had side-effects…

    30 000 people? That seems to me an unrealistic and far too low number to draw any positive picture for a vaccin of this importance…

    As the Thaiger mentions it, “What’s yet to be determined is how long immunity from either the Moderna or Pfizer vaccines will last, as well as their effectiveness in the elderly, who are most at risk from Covid-19.” – So basically what a vacin mostly should be for: immunity and protecting the most vulnerable (whom make the vast majority of people dying from covid 19). Well that is not “determined”… brillant!!

    The CEO and other executives of Pfizer sold shares worth millions the day after the annoucement of the firm last week (some even say the day before but I found no real proof of that). The french CEO of Moderna (he owns also 9% of it) literally became a billionnaire after the shares of Moderna went over the roof following this latest announcement (and previous ones).

    Whether we are for or against vaccins for this virus or in general, I must admit that it is getting hard to give any credit to these announcements (we had loads since March, most of them were untrue, others we never heard any following since, but some made millions out of them anyhow).

    1. “If we add all these %, it makes 33%… so 1 out of 3 had side-effects…”

      No, that’s impossible to know from the information given as it could have been as high as 33% if none had more than one side-effect or as low as 10% if those who had “fatigue” had other side effects as well.

      I DO AGREE WITH YOU 100%, though, that NONE of the important statistics appear to have been released by either Pfizer, BioNTech or Moderna, namely what level of protection any give to those likely to be most affected by the virus, whether it stops asymptomatic infections and transmission, and how long it lasts.

      Without knowing all of those, the vaccination is effectively a completely unknown quantity apart from its side effects and I certainly wouldn’t even consider having a vaccine under those circumstances in case something better came along which I would be unable to have as I’d already been vaccinated.

      Given the results for the placebos of only 90 infections out of 15,000 for Moderna, in the US so a 0.006% infection rate, with only 11 being “serious” (presumably hospitalized)and no deaths even the placebos seem remarkably effective – and Pfizer / BioNTech’s results are very similar.

      I’m not joining the conspiracy theorists, but these announcements don’t just seem premature but to be deliberately economical with the truth in order to make a short term massive profit for the companies before they’ve even produced anything proven to be worth having.

    2. Well said. I totally agree. In addition, no corona vaccine has been successful in the past. To be so completely positive that these two will be is to be motivated by politics and profits and not medical science.

      It can take months before the results of the vaccine are manifested. And even longer to see if there will be vaccine injuries. This first mRNA vaccine is a scary proposition and should have trials for several years before being injected into people.

  2. For the sake of humanity, many nations are in a hurry to produce the vaccine for this deadly virus as well as seeking this as an excuse to beat each other and make a big profit to increase their Coronavirus-shattered economy. Russia’s liquid vaccine shot is 92 percent effective, but the globally produced vaccine is scrambling to figure out how to ship and store their vials and they are trying to do this at minus 70 degrees Celsius equal to Antarctic weather by lyophilization process, and if the results are pleasant as they are going to be then Russia and the whole world will be under a major relief.

    1. Where do you get the data from showing that Russia’s vaccine (Sputnik V) is 92% effective?

      The only data they’ve given is that there were 20 cases from 16,000 volunteers,including those who received the placebo – that’s as useless as the “data”, if you can call it that, released by Pfizer, BioNTech et al.

  3. Many countries are developing the vaccine for the health of human society and believe it is adequate to deal with the virus. The globally produced vaccine is scrambling to figure out how to ship and store their vials and Russia’s liquid vaccine shot is 92% effective and they are trying to do this at minus 70 degree Celsius equal to Antarctic weather by lyophilization process, and if the results are pleasant as they are going to be then Russia and the whole world will be under a major relief.

  4. Amelia, you keep talking about “this deadly virus,” right? Well, could you please provide (as others have been asked) some, nay, any evidence that it does actually exist? Thank you.

    As for vaccines, please feel free to get into the queue and line up. However, I would recommend that you do some research into what will be injected into your blood stream. Start by checking out what the ingredients actually are, and then run them in a decent search engine and what the after effects might possible be.

    1. AI, the “evidence” is the opinion of several million doctors and all the hospitals that have taken those they believe to be Covid-19 patients into the wards and ICUs at the expense of other patients.

      Most people with a working brain cell would accept that they’re unlikely to all be wrong or all “in on it”.

      You like to think you know better than any of them – so maybe, instead of asking others for answers while refusing to give any yourself, you could explain why you think they’re all wrong.

      … or maybe not …

      1. Well it certainly exists, but its also certainly not deadly. Inconvenient yes, but most of its inconvenience is a direct result of human actions which seem to be copy pasted all over the world. A global narrative which something like the yearly flu never gets (o we are forbidden to compare it with Influenza, sorry). A constant search for the virus and a giant spotlight on any related events happening. You can make something bigger than it really is. Im pretty sure covid19 can be found in Thailand if someone cares to look for it. It just isnt as effective spreading in open ventilated environments. Heck, even an elderly Thai with flu symptoms was not checked for covid19. If it is here, its certainly a sign things can go on without mass hysteria. Thailand loves to make it a foreign problem while having zero intention of saving tourism and related businesses. Economy has and will continue to get a butt kick down from central Bangkok… Madness 2020.

      2. Well, show me a reputable source to go to! Simple as that! What should I look under?
        “several million doctors” is that what one should look for? 55!

        And your ad hominem attacks and time wasting attempts have been noted. Such dated and old tactics are made by juniors such as you…….
        Thought you were smarter that that for the cheerleader of scaring the bejeezus out of everybody. Yum…5 😉

        Who are you working for IJohn?

        1. AI, I’ve tried to do you the courtesy of asking you simple, easy to answer questions such as whether you think several million doctors and the hospitals are all wrong, but all I get in return is this crap about it not being proved to your satisfaction and directed to a nutjob climate denier website run by two certifiable fruitcakes with no verifiable scientific qualifications between them.

          Sorry, but it’s a question of who’s the bigger fool – the fool, or the fool who argues with him, and I just can’t be bothered – I get a more rational response from the local dogs.

          1. Yeah, I agree you probably would, but I prefer unlike you, not to hang around with dogs….. 😉

            Still waiting for your proof. You were asked this question about 3 weeks back and you never came up with absolute nothing/squat. What are you going to pawn/fob me off with this time…?

    2. AI

      Proof? My mother in law died due to the virus, doctors not nutters detected it in her body, she went downhill very quickly and died as a result.

      Her daughter who is my sister in law was OK, then suddenly she had problems breathing, lost her sense of smell and taste, they detected the virus and now she is in an induced coma, on a life support machine which is doing the breathing for her. (55 years old).

      Her sister who is my wife has the virus but has no symptoms, she is self-isolating in another property we have as she does not want to infect her son.

      My son and I were found to be negative after a test.

      How much fuc**** more proof do idiots and mental cases like you need?

      1. James, it’s pointless. These morons (and I’m being very generous there) don’t realise or even care how insulting their crap is to people who’ve lost family and friends to Covid-19, or to the medical profession who are putting their own lives at risk every day to try to save others.

        For the first time in their sad lives, though, they’ve got people listening to them and that’s all they care about. The absolute dregs of humanity.

      2. James, sorry to hear about your MIL, but can you or anyone of the “boys who cry wolf” just provide one source where anyone can go to check this out? And no need to use The Brit and Irish govt.’s have been asked for evidence again and again and yet you and boy-john, keep on waffling on about it being real. Evidence that we can chew on. And no need to start using the ‘f’ word pal.

        Simply put in this headline…… and learn

        ‘Ireland Joins UK Govt. In Refusing To Confirm COVID19 Even Exists!’ You will get a links to a website called principia scientific.

        “It’s been a hectic day here at Principia Scientific International. We can now assert that we have sufficient evidence to show that major English-speaking nations have NO EVIDENCE to prove the virus that causes COVID19 even exists!

        As such, we are now officially calling this out as a HOAX. Any business injured by government policy not already legally represented is cordially invited to contact us to help arrange assistance in legal remedies.

        Earlier today we posted a story revealing that the ‘UK’s Government Office For Science Admits No Proof Of Isolated ‘COVID-19 Virus.’ Alongside that we posted how a top ‘NZ University was Exposed In False Claim Of Identifying COVID19 Virus.’

        While yesterday we shared with readers evidence showing that COVID19 Is Really A CDC Computer-Generated ‘Virus’ and the shocking admission from the United States’ Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) which admitted in an official document that”

        Just provide the PROOF, never mind people you know who have been told died because of this or John’s MILLIONS of doctors know (but which he seems to have no proof of still). Waiting, waiting and waiting more…….

        PS – This con-vid hasn’t even been isolated yet, for gawdsakes………….

        1. January 2, 2020. The entire genome of the Covid-19 was published by Shi Zhengli of the Chinese Centre for Disease Control, according to a notice posted on the institute’s website. It has since been confirmed and verified by scientists around the world.

          1. So, why wasn’t it sent to the British and Irish govt.s? They’re STILL refusing to comment on any requests. Maybe you should send it and help them out! And you’re trusting the outstanding bulwarks of truth a Chinese CDC? Remember? This is where this whole caper comes from! BTW – Have you seen what’s going down in Wuhan and elsewhere? Check out ‘parties in wuhan’ on a search engine and see what comes up. And no, it’s not any kospiwacy websites, but CNN, BBC, the Guardian etc. etc….. I dare you to take a peek….. 😉

            And if this deadly virus, is so, so ….deadly, how come so much has been covered and time spent on it when there’s only a very minimal amount of people who are and will be affected? 99.9 % of people will not fall for it ever…if it exists! Want some proof?……

        2. Issan John ….. yes true, I can only assume is it some sort of insanity.

          I know, maybe death does not exist, it just a hoax, LOL.

          Maybe none of us are actually alive, we are just a government hoax?

          To Al, you wrote just a lot of nonsense found on the internet, it is just brainless waffle, not an ounce of proof, logic, or commonsense.

          1. To james,….moi? You still have absolute nothing of what I asked from peer reviewed sources….. NUFFIN.

            “nonsense on the internet”? Is that right, jimmy. Please right here where us misguided and lost souls should go for the “real truth”……come on jimmy, lest’s see what you have…. 😉

    1. Good question, but mercury is one of the most dangerous sources to be on the skin, never mind in one’s blood stream. Lead is also something which literally can “drive you mad”…….. Check out the meaning of the Mad Hatter in the tales of where Alice fell. 😉

  5. Lock it all down.
    Update, Tokyo covid explosion
    Foreign flights means MORE Deaths.
    The tourism industry can rot. The health system can not.
    Close it all down NOW. Nobody gets off an international flight

  6. – nobody knows the side effects of a never before used vaccine (MRNA)
    governments will be responsible so in tghe end the tax payer and it will be very
    difficult to proof it as they may occur years later

    – never before was a vaccine developed in such a short amount of time

    – the collateral damage will outnumber the covid deaths by far

    – fatality rate is between 0,1-0,3% (according to a recent WHO published study summarising over 60 studies from around the world)

    Yes, every death is a tragedy but we can’t handle the world with a monocausal view only on one possible cause of death

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