Coronavirus (Covid-19)
UPDATE: Thai PM says lockdown could become unavoidable
Thai PM Prayut Chan-o-cha is warning that another lockdown could prove unavoidable, should Covid-19 figures escalate out of control. Today, 427 new Covid-19 cases were reported by the Centre Covid-19 Situation Administration, 397 of which are migrant workers. Yesterday, the CCSA reported 382 new cases, 360 of which are in migrant workers.
Spokesperson Dr. Taweesilp Visanuyothin says 14 local cases have been confirmed, with the virus having spread beyond the central province of Samut Sakhon. 1 case was confirmed in Ayutthaya, 2 in Nakhon Pathom, 3 in Samut Prakan, 5 in Samut Sakhon, 2 in Bangkok and 1 in the northern province of Tak. All 14 cases can be traced back to the Samut Sakhon fish market where the latest outbreak began.
Health authorities are ramping up the screening of migrant workers in that province and beyond, with the PM calling for everyone to cooperate to contain the spread and avoid another lockdown. He says the situation should become clearer within 7 days, at which point decisions can be made about New Year’s Eve countdown events and the celebration of Children’s Day on January 9. According to the PM, the Public Health Ministry says the situation is still under control.
Taweesilp agrees that it’s too soon to make a call over New Year celebrations, adding that the Health Ministry will submit proposals when it next meets with the PM. He adds that right now, the information gained in the last few days about the Samut Sakhon outbreak is insufficient to predict what might happen over the holiday period.
“It will probably take about 7 days to tell, around December 28, so, it’s very hard to say at this point if celebrations should still be on or not.”
He adds that the number of cases linked to the original Samut Sakhon outbreak is likely to increase, due to Burmese workers sharing accommodation. It’s understood officials are still waiting on the results of around 2,600 tests, with plans to test a further 10,300 migrants connected to the infected workers. Thailand is following Singapore’s example of turning migrant accommodation into quarantine facilities, in an effort to curtail the spread of infection.
SOURCE: Bangkok Post
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ct
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 9:57 am
How many are actually ill. Cycle thresholds.. and where is is the evidence lockdowns works.
And how much money will Thailand receive from the IMF for locking us all down?
When will reporting of covid 21 begin?
This was all made public months ago in leaked reports. It was only discussed on conspiracy sites that have no credibility in the eyes of the msm.
Lock downs do far more damage than they help.
Don’t do it prayut. Say no to the money. You already have enough.
Follow the money….
Baht seven
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 1:28 pm
Pm said he is in complete control a few months ago.Now !!! HE SAYS ITS EVERYBODIES fault…..5555555555
saji
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 3:50 pm
when things are under control.. they say it is their diligence.
when it is not, it is caused by others.
typical management and political statement.. nothing new here.
Baht seven
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 2:16 pm
Just obey the rules and stop thinking. You have ZERO sayso in this country.
Brad Nak
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 5:35 pm
Thailand has been more successful than countries like the United states where people refuse to wear masks and to raise social distances. just look at theor President. His entire family got sick and he would up in the hospital on oxygen.
If it takes another lockdown to avoid becoming another United States…I support it. Thailand is not going to get a vaccine for 6 months. So lockdowns are the only way to control the viris
Brian
Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 5:59 pm
Funny, there was no need to control the last million viruses that entered Thailand.
Glenn
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 10:44 am
no celebrations
no parties
no alcohol
no going out after 10pm
house arrest (quarantine of the healthy)
mandatory business closures
involuntary work force reductions (you’re fired)
travel restrictions (your papers NOW! said in the best Thai German accent)
tracking and tracing
further ’emergency decrees’ until further notice
Govt is winding up and this pitch is going to be coming very soon.
Thai people – go ahead and keep wearing your face diapers and believing the propaganda at your own risk.
The Thaiger
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 10:59 am
Thanks for being a drama queen. Let’s just follow what is actually happening and stick to the facts as we know it.
Craig
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 12:44 pm
Yes, agreed. Thanks
gosport
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 1:02 pm
Must lock it down fir humanity.
Sam
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 12:52 pm
U call him a drama queen. I’ll call him a realist. Hello Lockdown 2.0. To think otherwise, u have the brain of an ant. They r just waiting for the events and the money making festive season to be over and thens the lockdown is rolled in. How obvious is it. Cmon mate. How thick can u get. Read between those very obvious lines
CM
Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 1:53 am
Calling someone a drama is being a drama queen. Gotta love farang in Thailand. Lmfao.
preesy chepuce
Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 9:54 pm
Are you suggesting that you don’t know that they’re signalling what they intend to do, in the same way they extended tourist visas until September, then extended the degree every month?
The trouble with all this, and it’s not unique to Thailand, is that governments are ever so keen to extend powers, but a bit slow on rescinding them, as Mr Orwell warned us many years ago.
indisPC
Friday, December 25, 2020 at 9:52 pm
LOL, the media has been the greatest drama queen in history on this one. Their reputation is in shambles.
Because of their atrocious reporting and total lack of integrity, the public has been spooked into wasting $40 trillion to fight a disease that has a 0.2% fatality rate with the average age of victims being almost 80 years old.
The hysterical response hasn’t saved the elderly, but it has destroyed the young. Unforgiveable. Shame and disgrace in perpetuity. Install adblock ASAP and let’s finish journalism off together.
B.T.
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 10:49 am
This guy know only :lockdown ,curfew,ban of alcohol selling.And of course propaganda BS.They forget about vaccine.Zero credibility.
Ted
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 11:29 am
Am currently witnessing the effects of, not only this government but the world’s has had on the tourism industry and all businesses focused on catering for all short term visitors.
It’s sad to see all the lost dreams while driving down some of the streets in Koh Samui, ghost town feeling. And sure it’s not only here and other parts has also been hit hard…
So what they have gone through makes me not worrying about being able to fly back home, if there will be new and perhaps harder lockdowns.
Bob
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 11:39 am
Lock downs work drastic but effective you need to read how well one Australian city did
I don’t like it but unfortunately many people have no care for their fellow man and take no responsibility for consequences.
Rip255
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 4:00 pm
The longest lockdown in the history of mankind is what you aspire to replicate?
Rick
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 12:51 pm
It has become very apparent, and studies have now shown, that in many countries the lockdowns will end up killing far more people than the virus ever could. The United Nations issued a statement many weeks ago that 265 million people worldwide were in danger of starvation due to the lockdowns, not the virus. Considering the facts that the tests are extremely unreliable, that the vast majority of those tested show no symptoms and that there have been no deaths from the latest “outbreak” locking down the country would be nothing less than criminal. The PM should know this, and if not, perhaps he should not be the PM.
Issan John
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 4:03 pm
What “studies”, exactly?
… and what “facts” that the PCR test are “extremely unreliable”, at 93 – 97% accuracy?
… and are you serious that the PM should wait for “deaths” before a lockdown?
That’s exactly what some buffoons did in the West, and the results are obvious to most with a working brain cell.
Rick
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 8:03 pm
There are studies John – and since you are the expert on everything I’m sure you can find them if you want to. And where is the proof of your oft repeated but never backed up assertion that the PCR has “93-97% accuracy”? Furthermore you seem to be unable to understand, or perhaps deliberately twist, what someone is saying. I never said that the PM should wait for deaths before a lockdown. I am saying that the lockdowns kill more people so there should not BE any lockdowns. If you had a working brain cell you would see this clearly but, being the shill that you are I won’t hold my breath.
Issan John
Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 1:58 pm
“There are studies John – and since you are the expert on everything I’m sure you can find them if you want to.”
No, sorry, I’ve looked for any reliable or validated “studies [that] have now shown, that in many countries the lockdowns will end up killing far more people than the virus ever could” and I couldn’t find any at all. None.
Can’t you help me out here by naming any?
” And where is the proof of your oft repeated but never backed up assertion that the PCR has “93-97% accuracy?”
Frequently backed up, actually. Do a search for ” PCR Covid test accuracy ” and on the first page you’ll find it’s “backed up” by, amongst others, the CDC, FDA, and BMJ, as well as fully independent organisations such as the Mayo clinic, Scielo, and Healthline.
” Furthermore you seem to be unable to understand, or perhaps deliberately twist, what someone is saying. I never said that the PM should wait for deaths before a lockdown.”
Sorry, but actually that’s EXACTLY what you said, very clearly. Here it is, in full and without any twisting, except I’ve put part in capitals for you: “Considering the facts that the tests are extremely unreliable, that the vast majority of those tested show no symptoms and that AND THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO DEATHS FROM THE LATEST “OUTBREAK” LOCKING DOWN THE COUNTRY WOULD BE NOTHING LESS THAN CRIMINAL. THE PM SHOULD KNOW THIS , and if not, perhaps he should not be the PM”.
“I am saying that the lockdowns kill more people so there should not BE any lockdowns.”
‘Yes’, I realise you said that’s what “studies” say, but it’s nonsense. Pure fantasy, and totally unsupported as there are no “studies” that say that.
Rick
Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 10:57 pm
I notice that you don’t deny being a shill, which you certainly are. You also continue to rely on the very sources that consistently lie and to push their agenda so pardon me if I scoff at your expertise.
Issan John
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 4:05 pm
and FWIW, that’s not what the UN statement said if you read the unedited version.
preesy chepuce
Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 11:22 pm
John, your credibility is shot, you keep demanding people provide evidence for what they say, but you never provide evidence for anything you say, and your claims seem usually to be contradicted by experts.
Honestly, are you a Chinese Thai who is sympathetic to the Chinese Communist Party, pretending to be a farang expat who did a contract with the UN, or a podgy opinionated taxi driver from Portsmouth?
Issan John
Friday, December 25, 2020 at 9:25 pm
Preecy, what “evidence” do you want? From who?
If “amongst others, the CDC, FDA, and BMJ, as well as fully independent organisations such as the Mayo clinic, Scielo, and Healthline” aren’t good enough for you, who are?
… and what “claims seem usually to be contradicted by experts”?
Name any – any at all!!! 🙂
Toby Andrews
Sunday, December 27, 2020 at 12:00 am
Chessy I admit Isaan John does write like a podgy opinionated taxi driver from Portsmouth but have you any evidence – any at all!!
He could be a podgy taxi opinionated driver from Poole.
preesy chepuce
Sunday, December 27, 2020 at 4:22 pm
Your claims are not aligned with those organisations (e.g.: CDC and ONS) – you keep contradicting them, and then when someone challenges you, you start banging your “show me evidence” drum, but the trouble is, you don’t seem to understand what evidence is.
Ole' T-Bone
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 12:56 pm
With the amount of unemployed, desperate Thai people, why is there a need for any migrant workers? Especially If they are arriving without pre-testing or quarantine upon arrival like everyone else?
If Thai employers cannot afford to pay Thai employees accordingly, then the goverment should subsidize this and keep the Thai people employed and the country safe.
Shame to see this all fall apart now, after all the work and effort put in by all of us.
J West
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 2:21 pm
Ole T Bone: The argument for increased migrants in the US is the same..” they’re doing jobs Americans won’t do”. However the solution is the same for Thai as it is in the USA….raise wages for citizens. It shouldn’t be up to a government to subsidize company profits to maintain artificial margins. Companies that don’t adapt go broke. Others survive. Thailand won’t be a country without a clear mandate to control immigration. Example is the USA that Democrats have flooded with illegals who now control enough votes to upset citizens in areas like education and health care.
Issan John
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 4:09 pm
They do jobs the Thais don’t do, in this case in a sector (the fishing industry) that’s effectively a closed shop.
You can’t just change all your employees overnight unless they’re all unskilled labourers, which these aren’t.
Issan John
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 4:36 pm
What “work and effort” has been “put in by all of us”?
I certainly haven’t put in any, and I can’t think of many who have unless they’re in Immigration or the BPP.
For most expats here, the only “work and effort” put into controlling Covid has been not having a bar stool to fall off for a few days …
Rubb
Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 10:07 am
“not havin a bar stool to fall off….” 5555555555555….
Some of us work, enjoy going to work, and also enjoy goin places when not working…. And yep, putting in th effort by obeying these mandates IS being felt. That said, of course we’ll still do so.
Issan John
Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 1:14 pm
Oh you poor thing … so “putting in th effort by obeying these mandates IS being felt”?
God almighty, doe sthe whingeing never stop?
Peter
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 2:15 pm
Leaving the dream you expat uncle tom scumbags?
So glad you in third world Thailand?
This will be a wonderful soap opera.
James Pate
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 2:40 pm
Lockdown? Hmm . . . That would fit in nicely as a reason to stop the anti-government protesters. How convenient!
Rod Reinhart
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 3:30 pm
Susprising to see how nimmbly this otherwise utterly incompetent and corrupt government can move when it comes to issuing ukases, edicts and controls. Since this plandemic started, Thailand suffered 80 deaths. The fact that for decades to no end, toll on Thai highways is 47 deaths. Mostly due to DUI. Empysema and other respiratory diseases caused by a country-wide burning account for 3.8% of total dead. Yet, that apparently leaves our brave PM unperturbed.
David Beckman
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 5:02 pm
Funny stuff, wait 7 days lol great way to spread it further, PM must have shares in Covid lol.I really do wonder about some people, I don’t know but just thought keeping people apart earliest rather than latest was the smart move ,Ohh well cross Thailand off the safe country list.
Issan John
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 7:03 pm
Restrictions on inter-provincial travel, quarantine, etc, are already at the discretion of individual provincial governors and some have already re-introduced them.
Hannes
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 5:25 pm
I hope islands will be sealed of and locked . In this case it can be a advantage to live on a island .we don’t need a lockdown on Phuket or Samui .it would be enough just not letting anybody in from Thai mainland until the situation improves.
This would guarantee us not infected people on the island could still move around on the island free ?
Robert Elliot
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 9:42 pm
The way I read it. You are an expat who wants to seal off and lock the island you live on to prevent Thai people from moving freely in there own country so you you will have the comfort of moving around freely .
Issan John
Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 1:07 pm
That’s how I read it too, Robert E.
The selfishness and arrogance of some farangs here still never ceases to amaze me.
Ian
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 6:13 pm
So it’s found Thailand did it ever leave ??? I’ve said for weeks its coming it was a trickle now it’s a river and yes what a way to stop the protests lockdown no matter what cost to the Thai society reminds me of a certain prime minister in uk thatcher she would have bankrupted the country to win the miners so sad for thailand but the authorities did say they have it contained many times no covid in thailand now whos lieing .
Issan John
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 6:57 pm
She may not have done much else, but actually she did “win the miners”.
J. KELLY
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 8:50 pm
in the dictionary under the word “asshole” it says. “See Prime Minister Chan o cha!”
dr
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 9:14 pm
Where’s all the sick people? 10000s of new cases if you believe the 1000 new cases found and no one is sick? And I’m supposed to believe this is dangerous to everyone? GtFo
Issan John
Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 1:08 pm
That’s how I read it too, Robert E.
The selfishness and arrogance of some farangs here still never ceases to amaze me.
preesy chepuce
Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 11:24 pm
Are you saying that your insistance that the economy of Thailand is devastated just on the off-chance that you personally might end up in a Thai hospital being treated for COVID is somehow not selfish?!
Issan John
Friday, December 25, 2020 at 9:32 pm
Hardly.
I’m suggesting that Thailand’s economy shouldn’t be “devastated” just to help a bunch of whingeing farangs get back on their bar stools.
Paulnou
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 10:33 pm
May I ask who is behind the decision to buy and produce only the AstraZeneca and Oxford University vaccin ?
Why not taking the precaution to buy on top the advanced 2 vaccins already bought long ago by many countries and now in stock over the world. Who are the actual shareholders of the laboratory which will get the monopole in Thailand to produce the only available vaccin from May 2021 ? Who can explain to the suffering Thai people such facts, I will not make comments and just look for answers since being only a loving guest and Farang with no rights to open my mouth.
Same for the hospitality sector, why let the whole industry suffer now because of few thiefts , no more We Travel Together scheme ? that was a great idea which brought surely 80 to 90% of the local tourism guests during past months to hotels , restaurants. it surely saved thousands of jobs and companies from bankrupcies
Issan John
Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 1:38 pm
Unbelievable. Genuinely unbelievable.
The “decision to buy and produce only the AstraZeneca and Oxford University vaccin” was taken because it’s the ONLY vaccine at or nearing the end of testing which is available.
THERE ARE NO OTHERS AVAILABLE. NONE.
“Why not taking the precaution to buy on top the advanced 2 vaccins already bought long ago by many countries and now in stock over the world.”
Because the very limited stocks of Moderna and Pfizer mRNA vaccines have ALREADY been bought by a few rich countries, and they’re NOT “in stock all over the world” but are way behind schedule for production, with Pfizer halving production earlier this month.
Even if someone could wave a magic wand and stocks were available, and they could be bought for the same cost as AstraZeneca’s ($3.oo instead of $40.oo), they’d be useless in countries like Thailand as Pfizer’s needs to be stored and transported at -70c and Moderna’s at -20c and Thailand doesn’t have any infrastructure to do that. As a ‘traditional’ vaccine, rather than an mRNA vaccine, AstraZeneca’s (and others) can be stored and transported at normal household fridge temperatures so they can be distributed easily and affordably through the existing means.
mRNA vaccines can’t, at least with current technology, so they’re not options.
How many times does this need to be explained?
“Who are the actual shareholders of the laboratory which will get the monopole in Thailand to produce the only available vaccin from May 2021 ?”
Well, the “actual shareholders” are AstraZeneca’s shareholders, but it’s NOT a “monopole”. It’s simply the only currently viable vaccine, AstraZeneca already have the production facilities here, and they’re producing here not just for Thailand but for all of ASEAN.
“Who can explain to the suffering Thai people such facts”?
ANYONE WHO KEEPS UP TO DATE WITH THE NEWS!!!!!
preesy chepuce
Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 11:26 pm
CLEARLY NOT YOU… PLEASE PACK THIS IN… YOU KEEP SPREADING FALSE INFORMATION LIKE IT’S FACT, BUT IT’S NOT FACT, AND WITH EVERY INCESSANT POST, YOU DEMONSTRATE HOW LITTLE YOU KNOW ABOUT ANYTHING AT ALL.
Issan John
Friday, December 25, 2020 at 9:56 pm
Well, Preesy, feel free to explain why anything I’ve said about the vaccines is “NOT FACT”.
Anything at all …
That it’s “NOT FACT” that:
“Moderna and Pfizer mRNA vaccines have ALREADY been bought by a few rich countries, and they’re NOT “in stock all over the world” but are way behind schedule for production, with Pfizer halving production earlier this month.”
“NOT FACT” that:
Pfizer’s aren’t available for “the same cost as AstraZeneca’s ($3.oo instead of $40.oo),”
“NOT FACT” that:
“they’d be useless in countries like Thailand as Pfizer’s needs to be stored and transported at -70c and Moderna’s at -20c and Thailand doesn’t have any infrastructure to do that. As a ‘traditional’ vaccine, rather than an mRNA vaccine, AstraZeneca’s (and others) can be stored and transported at normal household fridge temperatures so they can be distributed easily and affordably through the existing means.”
“NOT FACT” that:
“mRNA vaccines can’t [be stored and transported easily, etc] at least with current technology, so they’re not options.”
“NOT FACT” that:
“the “actual shareholders” [of Astra Zeneca] are AstraZeneca’s shareholders,”
etc, etc, etc
Just explain why any of that is “FALSE INFORMATION BUT NOT FACT” …..
….. do so, about any of it, any at all, and I’ll “PACK IT IN” and stop commenting here.
Will you, if you fail to do so?
Maxellus
Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 6:54 am
Thanks China!