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Norway adjusts advice after 28 possible vaccine-related deaths of elderly people

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The deaths of 23 elderly people are being investigated after dying a short time of receiving their first Covid-19 vaccine in Norway. Apart from the 23 deaths, medical officials are also reporting several people falling ill after receiving their first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine.

At this stage there has been no direct correlation between the people’s deaths and inoculation wit the Pfizer vaccine, but medical officials report that 13 out of 23 people who died showed “common side effects of mRNA vaccines” such as “diarrhea, nausea and fever”.

mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. That immune response, which produces antibodies, is what protects us from getting infected if the real virus enters our bodies – cdc.gov

The Norwegian Institute of Public Health has taken the action of cautioning against vaccinating elderly people above 80 years of age saying “those with a short life span may not benefit much from the jab”.

“For those with the most severe frailty, even relatively mild vaccine side effects can have serious consequences.”

“The agency listed fever and nausea as side effects which may have led to the deaths of some frail patients.”

Earlier this week, the Public Health authority noted that “any side effects of the vaccine will be outweighed by a reduced risk of becoming seriously ill with Covid-19 for elderly, frail people.”

Steinar Madsen, the medical director of the Norwegian Medicines Agency, says that it may be a coincidence, “but we aren’t sure”.

Pfizer and BioNTech are actively working with the Norwegian authorities to investigate the death.

“The regulator discovered the number of incidents so far is not alarming and in line with expectations.”

But experts are of “the strong opinion” that doctors need to exercise caution in vaccinating people in the wake of the deaths of the 23 elderly people. The Norwegian Medicines Agency also reported that 21 women and 8 men reported side effects. Apart from the 23 deaths, 9 people have reported “serious side effects” without fatal outcomes such as “allergic reactions, strong discomfort and severe fever. Seven people reported less serious side effects such as severe pain at the injection site”.

Norwegian medical staff had administered at least the first dose of the Pfizer or Moderna coronavirus vaccines to approximately 33,000 people as of the end of December.

 

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26 Comments

26 Comments

  1. Avatar

    dispensed

    Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 2:47 pm

    Now the Lieger reporters are anti-vaxers too! Hilarious.

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    Issan John

    Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    WOW.

    Glad all these people have volunteered to do Phase 4 testing before I make my choice of which vaccine to go for.

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    Quintin

    Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 4:57 pm

    So 28 deaths from 33000 vaccinations is .084%. Is that not about the death rate from the virus itself?!!

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      Xaos

      Monday, January 18, 2021 at 11:29 am

      59 died in usa

      Vaccine will actually kill more eldery thais then covid19 killed so far 80.

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    Ray

    Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 6:12 pm

    Strange this is only happening in Norway. It has been said that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine especially works well for elderly people.

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      Issan John

      Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 7:57 pm

      While Moderna’s and Astra Zeneca’s trial group ages are given in more detail (56-65,65-70,70+) Pfizer’s are only “56 – 85”.

      Of the 20,000 in that group that could be 19,999 aged 56 and 1 aged 85.

      Who knows?

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      Andr

      Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 9:13 pm

      Well, it has been decided to vaccine the oldest people first – oldest person vaccinated in norway is 105 years old. Even if health workers here recommend a fragile old person to not take the vaccine it is up to the person to decide.

      Old people with a short remaining life expectancy have been prioritized before younger people with cancer and reduced immune systems in Norway. Old people first! The older generation in Norway is the winner while the youngsters that have to pay for all of this are the big loosers. Same for pensions etc. were the younger generations don’t come close to what those who retire now and in 10-15 years will have. Who pays for it? The young. Who get furloughed du to corona restrictions and closures? The young. Norway have a welfare system built to last for one generation, e.g. those who was born in the 1950-1960s. Younger generations will not get anything close to the benefits that generation have – they just have to pay for it to substain the benefits the older have a “right to”. It’s a pyramid game and in the end the there will be to many on the top of the pyramid so those at the next layer will get less when they eventually reach the top.

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      Gordon J.

      Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 9:47 pm

      There have been cases in France and several in the U.S. But do you really think the U.S. is going to publicize that very much when Pfizer is an American company?

      The vaccine has not been tested enough, and being 65 myself, there is NO way I will have this vaccine for at least a year. Don’t know anyone in my circle of friends that will as we refuse to be lab rats for a not-yet-properly-tested vaccine. Especially as there has never been a vaccine in medical history for a coronavirus that has been successful.

      As it is now, the Chinese one the Thais are getting ‘may’ have a 50% effective rate. In other words, it’s useless. Hope you’re not in Thailand as, if so, that’s what you will be getting.

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        Issan John

        Monday, January 18, 2021 at 12:28 am

        Actually we’ll be getting AstraZeneca’s as well.

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      Albert Zweistein

      Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 7:39 am

      Perhaps of the excessive boozing in Norway.

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        Brian

        Monday, January 18, 2021 at 5:53 pm

        If Norway has “excessive” boozing, how would you describe the situation in Thailand?

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    Mister Stretch

    Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 6:44 pm

    I’ve got my eye on the J&J one-jab vaccine, which should be approved in the US before vaccinations begin here in Thailand.

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    John Dory

    Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 9:15 pm

    Doesn’t it raise any eyebrows that this isn’t worth mentioning by any of the reputable news outlets?

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    James R

    Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 10:15 pm

    Around the rest of Europe millions have been vaccinated with no problem.

    The virus can take three weeks to achieved its maximum affect so perhaps they already had the virus?

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    Henry Ford

    Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 10:42 am

    I thought it was the elderly (average age of death in the UK is 82) that were most at risk from Covid. If they are not to get the jab what is the point? Covid death rates will be the same.

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      Rasputin

      Monday, January 18, 2021 at 2:58 am

      Half of the over 80’s have already been given the covid vaccine in the UK

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    Terrence

    Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 11:02 am

    The original article that all the reports are based on, said the 23 deaths are not outside what they usually expect for that demographic – the current death rate is 400 per year. What they are actually contemplating is if is worth vaccinating them or not.

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    Siso

    Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 11:44 am

    “maybe a coincidence” what are the ffing odds…

    There are a bunch of folks reporting justike on 18 Dec 2020 from the trials an very narly side effect called Anaphylaxis that pretty much paralysis parts of your body for a short time, lip hanging, no feeling in certain parts and unable to get things your self done

    Also of course Bad fevers, vomitting, diarea ect and these might not be life threatening directly but damn if 40%+ have some of these symptoms and not knowing what the long term effects are this feels like playing Russian roulette with yourself, I hope very much that it will all workout in the end but I have to say that this all is very shady, and like mentioned before there’s very little mainstream TV coverage Of the bad.. You really have to check the reports on the internet

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    George

    Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 6:13 pm

    I don’t see why this large number of incidents with the Pfizer-Biontech is not alarming . I live in UAE where there have been already 1.5 million vaccinations so far with the inactivated chinese vaccine from Sinopharm with no deaths or serious incidents reported so far …

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      Issan John

      Monday, January 18, 2021 at 12:32 am

      Thanks for trialling it first 🙂

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    Ray

    Monday, January 18, 2021 at 4:16 am

    One report said that the deceased had underlying conditions and were so fragile that they could not even survive a common fever, which is a possible side effect of the vaccine. Other countries might have been more selective in administering the vaccine.

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    Barry Betts

    Monday, January 18, 2021 at 4:45 am

    It’s not such a big deal really given the numbers and also the age of the people who have passed away

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      dispensed

      Monday, January 18, 2021 at 12:24 pm

      I’m sure this comes as great consolation to the families of those who died: “Your grandparents were not such a big deal.”

      Actually, I jest because that was the irrational logic used to justify lockdowns and shorten the lives of young and poor people–who are DEFINITELY not a big deal at all as not one iota of concern has been shown for them–all based on the belief that destroying the future for the young would prolong the lives of the elderly… and in fact, it has not worked.

      In other words, young people, you just wasted a year of your life for nothing. Thank medical science and journalism.

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    John_2

    Monday, January 18, 2021 at 9:39 am

    Pfizer was fined $2.3 billion by the US for criminal fraud in 2009 over the drug Bextra.

    Pfizer the the LAST company I would trust over anything.

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    Issan John

    Monday, January 18, 2021 at 12:35 pm

    There could be any number of reasons, but it’s unlikely to be just co-incidence although ‘nobody knows’ yet.

    Maybe it was a bad batch – Pfizer had to cut their Covid vaccine production rate by half last year due to sub-standard suppliers, and they’ve had to halve it again recently so they can change their production systems.

    Maybe it was a problem in storage, given the very narrow window for it to be used once thawed, and the effects of it being frozen, thawed, then re-frozen, then thawed again, possibly more than once, are apparently completely unknown – like so much else.

    Who knows …

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      Ray

      Monday, January 18, 2021 at 4:35 pm

      Where down the distribution channels was a batch of the vaccine thawed and refrozen? The only incident I read was a broken freezer in Los Angeles. The medical staff immediately started distributing all of the stored vaccines and had difficulty to call in enough people in time for an injection. There was nothing refrozen.

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