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Thailand – the Covid vaccine and quarantine | VIDEO

Tanutam Thawan

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Thailand’s Public Health Ministry has issued an official statement stating that, in the short to medium term, “everyone entering Thailand has to do at least a 14 day quarantine”.

“The quarantine will apply, even those people who have been vaccinated.”

The Public Health Ministry says the reason is because the vaccination process has only just begun in some countries around the world.

“There is no agreement or study on how effective the vaccine is in a real life environment.”

At this stage the World Health Organisation has not made an official statement about the situation.

Over the next few months many studies and assessments will be conducted into the efficacy of the various vaccines from the different manufacturers.

 

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19 Comments

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    Alte Ledertasche

    Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 11:59 am

    I have to agree once with the statement from Thai authorities.

    Not any sufficient studies have to undertaken regarding the effectiveness nor the side effects of any covid vaccine offered.

    Trials, validation and production have been rushed. Implementation is monitored insufficient. In Germany for example 4 patients have been given 5times the normal dosis 2 days ago.

    The corrupt WHO lobbied by the Pharma induatry is using the world population as guinea pigs.

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      Felix

      Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 12:52 pm

      “Querdenken”-Anhänger!?!

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        Alte Ledertasche

        Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 5:50 pm

        Die sind mir zu lasch.

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          Toby Andrews

          Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 10:34 pm

          Ei und pommes bitter

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        Khao Lak

        Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 1:31 am

        Impfgegnerin oder Covidiotin?

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      Bazza

      Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 12:58 pm

      Do drink drivers also have to do motorcycle and drink rehabilitation classes, for two weeks? Because currently 20,000 people a year die on Thai roads, but only 60 a year of covid as it stands!!!

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      Albert Zweistein

      Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 3:20 am

      Wrong Alte Lederhose, not patients but nurses.

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    Issan John

    Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 4:00 pm

    I have to agree with you too, for once, Alte L.

    I don’t see where the WHO come into it, though, as approving any vaccine is strictly up to individual countries, and I’d suggest most of the “lobbying” has been of “the Pharma industry” by politicians in the West who’ve stuffed up badly and were desperate to get a vaccine out by Christmas / the New Year, rather than the other way round.

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    Ray

    Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 6:38 pm

    Of course each country can decide their own policy. If a government can keep the country Covid free with strict quarantine measures it makes sense. Any risk, no matter how small, could spark an outbreak. However, when Covid is already going round in the country there is more to lose from quarantine for vaccinated travelers than to win. Vaccinated people have no fear of visiting a country where the pandemic is happening. Return of tourism will be a solution for many people who lost their jobs. The added risk for spreaders among these entries is insignificant.
    So I would agree that under the current circumstances it is a wise decision but if the virus spreads more in LOS there is little ground to defend the measure. Likewise, I don’t expect Vietnam, which is basically covid-free, to remove quarantine for travelers when they are allowed back in the country. But in European and other countries there will be no quarantine for vaccinated people and that makes sense.

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      Issan John

      Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 11:48 pm

      “The added risk for spreaders among these entries is insignificant.”

      Why?

      Unless there’s a lower risk of the vaccinated carrying Covid than the unvaccinated (and if there is then please give a source), then please, please explain why.

      If anything “spreaders” who’ve been vaccinated will be even more dangerous than the unvaccinated as they’re less likely to take any precautions.

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        Ray

        Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 1:36 am

        From the Pfizer trails: 8 out of 22.000 persons who received the vaccine became sick. That’s 0.036%.
        Everything points in the direction that vaccinated people only carry a minimal virus load because it is attacked by the immune system and can’t replicate. As you know there is no definitive answer because these people need to be followed for a certain period. But pure logic tell that you can’t be a serious spreader, contrary to the contaminated ones without symptoms. At this stage we can only connect the dots to move forward. If you want to wait with everything to have it black and white we would still be living in the stone age and people will suffer. Advancements are made by logic and taking leadership, not by fear mongering spreading arguments that favor the least plausible outcome.

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          Pascal Hughes

          Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 3:10 am

          You are spot on. There is no way a vaccinated person can spread a virus as effectively as an unvaccinated person (regardless of whether they are asymptomatic) since the adaptive immune system will prevent replication of the virus in the vaccinated person.

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            Issan John

            Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:31 am

            Pascal, maybe you could help Ray out and explain “why”?

            Or why the manufacturers don’t make any of the claims you do?

            After all, they’re selling the stuff so you’d think that if it was true it’d be part of the sales pitch.

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          Issan John

          Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:22 am

          “But pure logic tell that you can’t be a serious spreader, contrary to the contaminated ones without symptoms”

          Name any study that supports your “pure logic”.

          Any at all.

          Or any expert.

          Or detail any of the known and identified “super spreaders” who weren’t asymptomatic.

          Sorry, Ray, but your “pure logic” is that black is white.

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          Issan John

          Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:26 am

          “Everything points in the direction that vaccinated people only carry a minimal virus load because it is attacked by the immune system and can’t replicate.”

          … and can you show some of that “everything”?

          Like a statement from the manufacturers saying that?

          Or from any expert?

          Or have you just pulled “everything” out of thin air?

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            Ray

            Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 2:43 pm

            IJ, you keep repeating yourself and thereby expose how your brain works, or rather not works. You are unable to connect the dots. Like said, pharma won’t make a statement about contamination because the follow-up trails are not concluded. However, the explanation how the vaccines work implies a positive outcome. Many countries and institutions will act on this knowledge because the situation asks for it.

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    London Al

    Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 11:10 pm

    As ever with the doom mongers all negatives with not a single idea of their own.

    The vaccine has been fast tracked and rushed through because there are tens of thousands dying from Covid every day, Alte and Issan John seem to be suggesting we should wait longer for more trials but they don’t say for how long, perhaps they think a year would be right which would result in the death of at least 2 million more people just so we can ensure a handful don’t get an adverse effect, brilliant!

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    Issan John

    Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 12:57 am

    Not remotely what I’m saying or suggesting at all, London A1. I can’t speak for Alte, obviously, and I’m sure his thoughts on this are very different to mine in many regards as I’m not considering nor have I ever mentioned “adverse effects”, other than to say that the possibility for some should have been a given and not overlooked.

    What I’m saying is:

    1. That the Phase 3 trials weren’t carried out in the normal way, which should have included at least random if not full tests of all participants to see if the vaccine gave any protection from transmission, as some assumed happened, which wouldn’t have slowed down the trial. Instead the tests never happened and the only tests were of those who were symptomatic, nobody else.

    You can draw your own conclusions why.

    2. The approval, like it or not, IS “experimental”. That doesn’t mean the vaccine’s good or bad, just “experimental” as all are at that / this stage.

    3. The “roll out” of the vaccines, again like it or not, IS currently a Phase 4 trial. That’s how the system works, and why the Thai authorities, and the Australian, and any others who’ve said anything, have all said “There is no agreement or study on how effective the vaccine is in a real life environment.”

    Like it or not, the “roll out” means that people ARE currently being “used as guinea pigs”, and while that’s unavoidable far from everyone wants to be.

    4. I’ve also commented elsewhere that PERSONALLY I wouldn’t take either the Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccines as I don’t think enough’s known about them, so I’d wait for the AstraZeneca vaccine which is a far more known quantity and a better fit FOR ME as I’m not at risk as much as others are.

    That doesn’t mean I think the roll outs should have been delayed (I don’t), just that they are what they are – experimental vaccines, rolled out in what are currently Phase 4 trials, and until the trials are complete, and the results in, countries can’t (or at least SHOULDN’T) take any decisions on issues like lifting quarantine.

    It’s got nothing to do with being a “doom monger”, it’s simply spelling out the reality which you seem to either be totally unaware of or prefer to ignore.

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    Edy

    Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 11:08 pm

    Government is under control of the WHO. But all this stuff is only lies, there is no covid in Thailand. Testing gives only false positive. They only want to vaccine people and make money with this. And make people to get sick with vaccines. It is a big hoax and we are in big trouble because of the globalists of new world order.

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