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Thailand’s Public Health Ministry has issued an official statement stating that, in the short to medium term, “everyone entering Thailand has to do at least a 14 day quarantine”.

“The quarantine will apply, even those people who have been vaccinated.”

The Public Health Ministry says the reason is because the vaccination process has only just begun in some countries around the world.

“There is no agreement or study on how effective the vaccine is in a real life environment.”

At this stage the World Health Organisation has not made an official statement about the situation.

Over the next few months many studies and assessments will be conducted into the efficacy of the various vaccines from the different manufacturers.

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    Alte Ledertasche

    Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 11:59 am

    I have to agree once with the statement from Thai authorities.

    Not any sufficient studies have to undertaken regarding the effectiveness nor the side effects of any covid vaccine offered.

    Trials, validation and production have been rushed. Implementation is monitored insufficient. In Germany for example 4 patients have been given 5times the normal dosis 2 days ago.

    The corrupt WHO lobbied by the Pharma induatry is using the world population as guinea pigs.

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      Felix

      Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 12:52 pm

      “Querdenken”-Anhänger!?!

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        Alte Ledertasche

        Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 5:50 pm

        Die sind mir zu lasch.

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          Toby Andrews

          Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 10:34 pm

          Ei und pommes bitter

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        Khao Lak

        Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 1:31 am

        Impfgegnerin oder Covidiotin?

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      Bazza

      Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 12:58 pm

      Do drink drivers also have to do motorcycle and drink rehabilitation classes, for two weeks? Because currently 20,000 people a year die on Thai roads, but only 60 a year of covid as it stands!!!

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      Albert Zweistein

      Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 3:20 am

      Wrong Alte Lederhose, not patients but nurses.

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    Issan John

    Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 4:00 pm

    I have to agree with you too, for once, Alte L.

    I don’t see where the WHO come into it, though, as approving any vaccine is strictly up to individual countries, and I’d suggest most of the “lobbying” has been of “the Pharma industry” by politicians in the West who’ve stuffed up badly and were desperate to get a vaccine out by Christmas / the New Year, rather than the other way round.

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    Ray

    Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 6:38 pm

    Of course each country can decide their own policy. If a government can keep the country Covid free with strict quarantine measures it makes sense. Any risk, no matter how small, could spark an outbreak. However, when Covid is already going round in the country there is more to lose from quarantine for vaccinated travelers than to win. Vaccinated people have no fear of visiting a country where the pandemic is happening. Return of tourism will be a solution for many people who lost their jobs. The added risk for spreaders among these entries is insignificant.
    So I would agree that under the current circumstances it is a wise decision but if the virus spreads more in LOS there is little ground to defend the measure. Likewise, I don’t expect Vietnam, which is basically covid-free, to remove quarantine for travelers when they are allowed back in the country. But in European and other countries there will be no quarantine for vaccinated people and that makes sense.

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      Issan John

      Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 11:48 pm

      “The added risk for spreaders among these entries is insignificant.”

      Why?

      Unless there’s a lower risk of the vaccinated carrying Covid than the unvaccinated (and if there is then please give a source), then please, please explain why.

      If anything “spreaders” who’ve been vaccinated will be even more dangerous than the unvaccinated as they’re less likely to take any precautions.

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        Ray

        Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 1:36 am

        From the Pfizer trails: 8 out of 22.000 persons who received the vaccine became sick. That’s 0.036%.
        Everything points in the direction that vaccinated people only carry a minimal virus load because it is attacked by the immune system and can’t replicate. As you know there is no definitive answer because these people need to be followed for a certain period. But pure logic tell that you can’t be a serious spreader, contrary to the contaminated ones without symptoms. At this stage we can only connect the dots to move forward. If you want to wait with everything to have it black and white we would still be living in the stone age and people will suffer. Advancements are made by logic and taking leadership, not by fear mongering spreading arguments that favor the least plausible outcome.

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          Pascal Hughes

          Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 3:10 am

          You are spot on. There is no way a vaccinated person can spread a virus as effectively as an unvaccinated person (regardless of whether they are asymptomatic) since the adaptive immune system will prevent replication of the virus in the vaccinated person.

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            Issan John

            Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:31 am

            Pascal, maybe you could help Ray out and explain “why”?

            Or why the manufacturers don’t make any of the claims you do?

            After all, they’re selling the stuff so you’d think that if it was true it’d be part of the sales pitch.

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          Issan John

          Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:22 am

          “But pure logic tell that you can’t be a serious spreader, contrary to the contaminated ones without symptoms”

          Name any study that supports your “pure logic”.

          Any at all.

          Or any expert.

          Or detail any of the known and identified “super spreaders” who weren’t asymptomatic.

          Sorry, Ray, but your “pure logic” is that black is white.

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          Issan John

          Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 10:26 am

          “Everything points in the direction that vaccinated people only carry a minimal virus load because it is attacked by the immune system and can’t replicate.”

          … and can you show some of that “everything”?

          Like a statement from the manufacturers saying that?

          Or from any expert?

          Or have you just pulled “everything” out of thin air?

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            Ray

            Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 2:43 pm

            IJ, you keep repeating yourself and thereby expose how your brain works, or rather not works. You are unable to connect the dots. Like said, pharma won’t make a statement about contamination because the follow-up trails are not concluded. However, the explanation how the vaccines work implies a positive outcome. Many countries and institutions will act on this knowledge because the situation asks for it.

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    London Al

    Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 11:10 pm

    As ever with the doom mongers all negatives with not a single idea of their own.

    The vaccine has been fast tracked and rushed through because there are tens of thousands dying from Covid every day, Alte and Issan John seem to be suggesting we should wait longer for more trials but they don’t say for how long, perhaps they think a year would be right which would result in the death of at least 2 million more people just so we can ensure a handful don’t get an adverse effect, brilliant!

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    Issan John

    Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 12:57 am

    Not remotely what I’m saying or suggesting at all, London A1. I can’t speak for Alte, obviously, and I’m sure his thoughts on this are very different to mine in many regards as I’m not considering nor have I ever mentioned “adverse effects”, other than to say that the possibility for some should have been a given and not overlooked.

    What I’m saying is:

    1. That the Phase 3 trials weren’t carried out in the normal way, which should have included at least random if not full tests of all participants to see if the vaccine gave any protection from transmission, as some assumed happened, which wouldn’t have slowed down the trial. Instead the tests never happened and the only tests were of those who were symptomatic, nobody else.

    You can draw your own conclusions why.

    2. The approval, like it or not, IS “experimental”. That doesn’t mean the vaccine’s good or bad, just “experimental” as all are at that / this stage.

    3. The “roll out” of the vaccines, again like it or not, IS currently a Phase 4 trial. That’s how the system works, and why the Thai authorities, and the Australian, and any others who’ve said anything, have all said “There is no agreement or study on how effective the vaccine is in a real life environment.”

    Like it or not, the “roll out” means that people ARE currently being “used as guinea pigs”, and while that’s unavoidable far from everyone wants to be.

    4. I’ve also commented elsewhere that PERSONALLY I wouldn’t take either the Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccines as I don’t think enough’s known about them, so I’d wait for the AstraZeneca vaccine which is a far more known quantity and a better fit FOR ME as I’m not at risk as much as others are.

    That doesn’t mean I think the roll outs should have been delayed (I don’t), just that they are what they are – experimental vaccines, rolled out in what are currently Phase 4 trials, and until the trials are complete, and the results in, countries can’t (or at least SHOULDN’T) take any decisions on issues like lifting quarantine.

    It’s got nothing to do with being a “doom monger”, it’s simply spelling out the reality which you seem to either be totally unaware of or prefer to ignore.

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    Edy

    Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 11:08 pm

    Government is under control of the WHO. But all this stuff is only lies, there is no covid in Thailand. Testing gives only false positive. They only want to vaccine people and make money with this. And make people to get sick with vaccines. It is a big hoax and we are in big trouble because of the globalists of new world order.

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Hong Kong’s government is forcing a partial lockdown until 10,000 residents of an area in the Kowloon peninsula, complete a Covid-19 test. The 2 day lockdown in the city’s poorest neighbourhood of Jordan, comes after a new strain of the coronavirus was identified, making it the 1st lockdown that the city has seen.

The area, which features many deteriorating buildings and 150 stacked housing blocks, has confirmed 162 confirmed cases of Covid-19 this month, with the ratio of virus detected in sewage samples from buildings there was higher than that of other areas.

Over the last 2 months the city has been hit by a 4th wave of infections with authorities struggling to bring the daily numbers down. Such clusters have hit the low-income neighbourhoods the most, which are notorious for cramped conditions in districts such as Yau Tsim Mong.

In recent days, health officials began mandatory testing in some 70 buildings in the area but the government has now decided to test everyone much to the confusion of local residents. As rumours of a lockdown were leaked to the local media, the government didn’t officially announce the measure until this morning. The area is also home to many ethnic minorities, mainly South Asian Hong Kongers, a community that often faces discrimination and poverty.

Earlier in the week a senior health official was criticised when he suggested ethnic minority residents might be spreading the virus more readily because “they like to share food, smoke, drink alcohol and chat together.”

The health official’s comments also came as a video was released of predominantly white migrants dancing at a packed brunch on the more affluent Hong Kong Island. But those who agreed with the health official pointed to cramped conditions, not race or culture, as being the cause of the virus spreading more easily.

SOURCE: Thai PBS World

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Phuket’s tourism representatives are calling for an end to the mandatory quarantine levied at tourists arriving to the province from Bangkok. The tourism delegation have also told Phuket’s provincial government to be prepared to start receiving international tourists starting in October.

According to The Phuket News, such a plan would include a requirement for all international travellers to Thailand to have the Covid-19 vaccine. By that time, it is expected that Phuket will have 70% of its population vaccinated, with the timeline possibly being sped up by the province planning to buy the vaccines with its own funds. Such a move would bypass the national government’s timeline with the hopes of innoculating registered residents quicker. Governor Narong says such quarantine measures in place currently are preventing the province from profitting off domestic tourism.

“Phuket has been hit hard by the 2nd epidemic. Thai tourists do not come because they do not want to quarantine and follow the difficult steps to enter the province, not to mention there are no foreign tourists at this time.”

In a meeting, the PTA President Bhummikitti, said the Covid-19 vaccine was “the last ticket and the last hope” for Phuket tourism, “because Phuket tourism has no way out at this time.”

“Thai people are unable to travel due to the second outbreak, and foreign tourists are not to be mentioned at all. Vaccines are the hope of the Phuket tourism sector.”

“The private sector wants to get clarity from the government whether we can follow this plan or not, because if it is left like this – open, close, lockdown and so on, as in the past – local businesses are all dead.”

Bhummikitti pointed out that the government had promised to work with local industry on all matters related to Covid-19 and keeping the local economy alive. He said that the move would “allow tourism and the Phuket economy to be able to walk once more from having fewer Thai tourists.”

Governor Narong said tracking systems will be in place when tourists do come back to the province.

“In order to ensure tourists that Phuket citizens as well as incoming tourists are safe from the Covid-19 virus, there will be a tracking system, and a fund established to be used as a remedy [sic] to help those affected if there is an infection from incoming tourists.”

SOURCE: The Phuket News

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Thailand’s eastern provinces are growing impatient as local businesses and residents await a relaxation in Covid-19 safety measures after seeing a drop in cases. Chonburi, Chanthaburi, Trat and Rayong are under a “highly controlled” status set by the CCSA (Samut Sakhon, south west of Bangkok, also falls into the same category at this time). These provinces, along with Samut Sakhon and Samut Prakarn, are under the strictest control measures in the country.

The cause of such tough measures levied upon the provinces was due to a spike in Covid cases after illegal gambling operations in Rayong and Chonburi were found to feature participants with the Covid-19 virus. But now, those areas are reporting very few cases of the virus leaving residents frustrated as they are unable to make a living or travel.

There has been only 1 case in the past 2 days in all 4 of the Eastern provinces. That case was in Rayong, with all other cases being in the low single digits. On top of the low cases, any new cases have been promptly dealt with by requiring contact-tracing, tracking and quarantine. But any hopes of the measures relaxing has been pushed back to the end of the month, with many questioning such a delay.

Bangkok, which has seen more cases reported than all 4 eastern provinces combined, is now easing restrictions by allowing 13 types of businessesto reopen. The move has baffled the eastern provinces as such businesses are still ordered to shutter. The government has responded, somewhat, by offering a 3,500 baht handout for 2 months, but registration for the handout doesn’t start until the end of this month. When the money actually hits residents’ pockets is also unknown as it could take weeks.

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