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France and Germany back in lockdown amid resurgence of Covid-19 in Europe

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The leaders of France and Germany are once again having to introduce national lockdowns as the Covid-19 virus continues to surge across Europe. France is now recording over 36,000 (+36,437 yesterday) new cases a day, while Germany, which fared slightly better than other European countries during the first wave of the virus, is now seeing a dramatic rise in cases as winter approaches (+16,202 yesterday).

In announcing the new lockdown in France, President Emmanuel Macron warned that the country faces a second wave that could be worse than the first. Strict measures come into effect from tomorrow, with people not permitted to leave their homes unless it is to seek medical attention, purchase essential items, or to exercise for a maximum of an hour a day. However, schools remain open and people can still go to work if it is not possible for them to do their job from home.

“The virus is circulating at a speed that not even the most pessimistic forecasts had anticipated. Like all our neighbours, we are submerged by the sudden acceleration of the virus. We are all in the same position: overrun by a second wave which we know will be harder, more deadly than the first.”

France and Germany back in lockdown amid resurgence of Covid-19 in Europe | News by Thaiger

Over in Germany, Chancellor Angela Merkel has confirmed that from next Monday, November 2, to the end of November, all bars, restaurants, and theatres will close. Schools will remain open and shops will be permitted to operate under strict conditions. The chancellor warns that the measures are vital to protect the country’s healthcare system.

“We need to take action now. Our health system can still cope with this challenge today, but at this speed of infections, it will reach the limits of its capacity within weeks.”

Confirmation of lockdowns in Europe’s biggest economies caused stock markets around the world to plummet, with European markets closing at their lowest level since late May. The S&P 500, which measures the performance of the 500 largest publicly traded companies in the US, was down 3%.

France and Germany back in lockdown amid resurgence of Covid-19 in Europe | News by Thaiger

Meanwhile, with just 5 days to go before the presidential election, the US continues to set records with its rising numbers of virus cases. President Trump, however, remains undeterred, as he continues to hold public rallies, with many supporters not wearing masks.

France and Germany back in lockdown amid resurgence of Covid-19 in Europe | News by Thaiger

SOURCE: SBS News

 

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    Issan John

    Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 1:08 pm

    Exactly what Thailand needs to avoid – and, so far, has done very successfully.

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      james

      Friday, October 30, 2020 at 5:20 pm

      Laos John (it is what the rest of the Thai people in Thailand call Issan).

      I suppose the published figures on how many people have the virus and how many have died from it in Thailand is just as honest as the result of the general election there last year.

      Plus you need to be doing random tests by the millions to get the true figures, or you could of course just make it up.

      Why would any sane person believe the stats given out by such a corrupt government?

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    Thai man

    Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 1:46 pm

    RIP Europe
    Now for sure border should be close for ever
    Anyway Westerns poor as church mouse they have freedom and viruses and no have job.
    Enjoy guys.

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    Don R

    Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:16 pm

    Thanks for admitting that lockdowns don’t work. If they worked, we wouldn’t be here.

    Thanks for perpetuating the irrational fear over a virus that has a 0.3% fatality rate and falling.

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      SG666

      Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 4:03 pm

      In this regard there was an interesting article today which was published in the German boulevard which supports government oppression and control same as lock downs.

      It was stated from a leading doctor of a well know hospital in Germany that out of all registered cases around 5percent are admitted to hospital and 2percent to extensive care, average age of people who die is 79 in Germany.

      Given the fact that – as shown in many studies around the world – the true cases are are 5 till 15 times higher than recorded this virus is not more dangerous than the flu. Flu might even been detected as covid 19 as PCR test are NOT that accurate.

      It is nothing else than the biggest hoax in hstory orchestrad by mainstream media and the WHO. They tried it with the swine flue some years ago which failed.

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        Issan John

        Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 4:43 pm

        “Given the fact that – as shown in many studies around the world – the true cases are are 5 till 15 times higher than recorded this virus is not more dangerous than the flu.”

        But it’s not a “fact”. It’s rubbish, however many times you repeat it.

        The infection fatality rate (IFR) for flu is generally accepted as around 0.001.

        The IFR for Covid-19 is now generally accepted as around 0.15 to 0.3 once age adjusted.

        That’s at least one hundred time worse even if you’re happy to write off the aged and obese, who make up some 20% and 30% of the population respectively – and Germany also has one of the best recovery rates in the world, four times better than the UK’s.

        More impoprtantly, it’s also not just about the mortality rate but the effect on daily life and the economy and schools. Thailand just can’t afford to go down the same route as the West, who simply stuffed up, and there’s no reason for it to.

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          Jack

          Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 4:57 pm

          Are total annual deaths up or not?

          If not then it is hoax.

          Why can’t the old and vulnerable lock themselves indoors? Why should every human be subjected to the misery created by lock downs when 99.8% of all people under 70 will survive even if they develop symptoms.. most who won’t..

          Sure this virus is no walk in the park, but lock downs, everyone stay at home.

          What’s the point of living if we can’t live, only to delay the inevitable deaths of old People be a few months to a year.

          Let the old People sit at home in isolation and quarantine and sacrifice their joy so the rest of us can live full productive lives.

          Issan John, you a bootlicker in your every post. You bow down to every govt order? Why?

          If you are the old and weak, stay home! Do you really think it’s OK for every job and life on the planet to get ruined so you can live a few more months in your own bitter hell?

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            Ben

            Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 10:04 am

            Jack, your hometown must produce a lot of humanitarians but you’re certainly not one of them. I hope your father and mother aren’t alive to hear you spew such selfish and privileged crap.

            We can all continue to argue about the numbers and percentages and if it’s a hoax or not. It’s gotten old and tiresome. Don’t you think? But don’t you think if it killed like the flu, we’d treat it that way and all get on with our lives? Do you think countries would go through so much economic pain if this were just like the flu? When we get a vaccine and treatments, like we have with the flu, then it’ll be like the flu and things will return to normal. Until then time it won’t be normal.

            Those that don’t like the shutdown try to minimize the death and suffering. So let’s do some math on America:

            USA Population = 329 Million
            Under Age 65 = 269 Million
            Over Age 65 = 59 Million

            COVID-19 Death Rate under 50 = .1% (same as the flu)
            Death Rate 50-60 = .3%
            Death Rate 60-70 = 1.3%
            Death Rate 70-80 = 4.6%
            Death Rate over 80 – 25%

            So let’s use .2% (same as Jack’s number) for those under 65 and 4.5% for those over 65 (Sorry that the stats don’t match up categorically but it was the best data I could get). Let’s also assume everyone will get it eventually because it’s asymtomatically spread. Also that we have no vaccines and treatments same as back in early 2020 when this all started. So the number crunching yields a 1% mortality rate or 3.3 million American deaths. World-wide population is 7.8 billion so that would be 78 million world-wide deaths.

            Jack is ok in early 2020 to accept 78 million world-wide deaths to take a smaller economic hit and preserve his individual freedom to live life however he wants. Your guess is as good as mine how many would die in 2021 without restrictions until we have effective treatments and vaccines. Many are not willing to accept this amount of death so thus the disagreement between those that want to minimize death and those that want to maximize personal freedom and economics.

            According to the WHO the flu kills 250,000 to 500,000 annually world-wide. It would likely kill a lot more but we have a vaccine so it is what it is.

            So let’s not sugar coat it, ignore it or minimize it. Let’s not argue about the numbers. It’s a lot of people no matter how you do the math. Jack is ok with an estimated 78 million people dying world-wide so he can get on with his life.

            There are a lot of old, fat, and unhealthy people in America and around the world and they’re all giving you the finger. They don’t want to sit at home and cower until they meet their maker so you can get on with your life. They want to live too and are willing to wear masks, social distance and wash their hands until vaccines and treatments that might save them arrive. And you’re giving them the finger.

            Those that think like Jack won’t be convinced otherwise and those that think the other way will not come over to Jack’s position. So we’ll muddle through this until the vaccine and treatments arrive next year and life will get back to normal and COVID will be like the flu.

            Until then almost all of Asia will not agree with Jack and will have less deaths and stay closed. Those of us outside Asia will be fighting each other and we’ll have more deaths. Both Asia and the rest of the world will take economic hits. Who do you think looks smart?

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          SG666

          Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 5:20 pm

          It isnt rubbish… if you like it or not. There has been numerous studies around the world where they randomly took tests in areas where the infection rate was highest during the first wave in Europe, they have done it in Italy, in France, Germany etc.

          All this tests have shown that cases are up to 5-15 times higher than officially recorded.

          The death rate of covid 19 at this moment is around 3.5percent. In fact it is even lower as some countries, like the UK for example not record any recoveries and the current death rate is calculated with the current recovery rate.

          However if the studies are correct the current death rate is around 0.35percent only.

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      Issan John

      Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 4:21 pm

      All too evidently the evidence is unequivocal that lockdowns do work – don’t just look at Thailand, but at Vietnam, Cambodia and Taiwan; that’s why they’re in the position they are, and the West in the position it is.

      … and it’s hardly an “irrational fear” since the fatality rate (IFR or CFR) isn’t “falling” but always varies and is also meaningless unless you also look at the contagion rate.

      Opening the borders and encouraging a virus that, unchecked, would kill 200,000 Thais in the short term (your IFR) and force Thailand to go down the same route as the West with lockdowns and curfews that it doesn’t have the resources to support (unemployment pay, sick leave, furlough, etc) in return for a very short term gain with a few tourists really isn’t rational.

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        SG666

        Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 5:28 pm

        200.000, yes yes, sure… the average world death rate death/total population is around 0.015percent, lets say LOS has a population of around 70mio. So around 10.500 people would die in Thailand, not 200.000.

        And as Thailand has such a world class health care system as officials always claim it should be easy to drop this rate down. Or not?

        Sorry, I forgot that the world class healthcare system in Thailand is only a marketing gag.

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        Don R

        Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 10:31 pm

        East Asian countries and island nations have “succeeded” in keeping the virus at bay. East Asian countries can easily keep it out because most of their population already has antibodies for coronaviruses, and island nations can keep it out because… water! But it’s not going away, so I don’t really count that as a success. Success will come in the form of herd immunity.

        200k Thais will die? Holy guacamole! That would be a fatality rate 10 times higher than what other countries have experienced. Why not just say it’ll kill 200 million if you’re gonna make stuff up?

        And yes, the IFR is relevant. It’s clearly 0.3% or lower, and that’s based off data from the summer. Since then, cases have doubled but daily deaths remain lower than at the peak in the spring. This will only drag the IFR lower and lower. So congratulations on your irrational panic!

        There should be no bailout for Thailand and other countries. You make your bed, now you sleep in it. People need to learn painful lessons here, so that this panic never happens again.

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    Al

    Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 7:53 pm

    Oh dear, the same old same old from the reality deniers. Let’s see now. How many people have been cases, oops! Now it’s “infected,” right? How many have actually died?
    OK? You this far?
    What percent of their population have died from the dreaded malady?
    Answers on the world’s smallest matchbook and send to REALITY (dot) COM!

    What are the survival percentage of becoming a case…….oops again! Infected? Come on you shills or whatever you denial perps happen to be!! 55

    PS – Fanx very much to the awakened folks above this post – you are a nice breath of fresh air…. which these clowns keep telling you is ….SO DANGEROUS! ; )

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    Al

    Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 7:42 pm

    WOT? No replies???? 55!

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