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Expat vaccination in Thailand likely to be delayed

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An official from the Bangkok Metropolitan Association says foreigners may face a slight delay in receiving their Covid-19 vaccines. Panruedee Manomaipiboon, director of the BMA’s health department says while the Health Ministry aims to vaccinate everyone living in Thailand, foreigners may have to wait until August.

“As I have said before, the Health Ministry plans to vaccinate Thais first. We will try our best to vaccinate Thais within 2 months, namely June and July, and then try to open foreign resident registration in August.”

Panruedee stresses that the government still intends to vaccinate everyone living in the Kingdom, regardless of nationality, and urges everyone to use the Mor Phom mobile app to register to minimise the risk of disease transmission.

She says the first people to be vaccinated in the government rollout will be healthcare workers and other frontline staff, as well as people with underlying conditions and the elderly, before moving on to the rest of the population, including foreigners.

“We need to build herd immunity, which means we cannot segregate Thais and foreigners. The government has prepared enough vaccines for everyone in Thailand.”

There have been mixed reports from foreigners who have tried to use the Mor Phom app, with most unable to do so, while some with a social security number have managed it. In Phuket, expats working in the tourism sector can have their employer register them through the Phuket Must Win website effective immediately.

The Bangkok Post reports that the BMA has now confirmed 8 clusters of infection in the capital. However, BMA spokesman Phongsakorn Kwanmuang says some areas are seeing a reduction in new cases, but districts like Din Daeng, Dusit, Klong Toey and Suan Luang need to be kept under close observation. He says most infections are reported in crowded spaces such as company offices, worker camps, markets and stores, due to people having close contact.

“They share the same dishes. They share the same space for activities which leads to further infections within communities. In some clusters, it is being spread among family members.”

SOURCE: Bangkok Post

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40 Comments

  1. The individual countries must step in especially the USA Embassy. Their services to the USA citizens have been cut back during the last few years. It is time for them to step up and help us get the COVID vaccine. That have been approved for those in the USA. Not the China or Russian vaccine.

  2. I believe Vaccination for foreigners in general is more likely to begin by the end of this year in Thailand. But I hope I’m wrong and the government will surprise all by honoring their word that it will begin by July/ August.

  3. Interesting – I was told that authorities (discreetly) extended vaccination efforts on Koh Tao to cover all foreigners, regardless of visa status.

    COVID International Community Support Chiang Mai has posted the following notice:

    INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY IMPORTANT COVID-19 NEWS
    Chiang Mai Provincial Health Office is making preparations to offer COVID-19 vaccination to all foreign nationals in Chiang Mai Province free of charge. The vaccinations are expected to take place in June 2021 but precise details are still being finalized.
    1) All foreign nationals who wish to accept this offer must contact Chiang Mai Vaccination Centre as soon as possible via either:
    Email: vaccinecm@hotmail.com
    LINE messenger ID phone number: 0960138522
    App: Mor Phrom
    Local Hospital registration
    Include following document and details
    i) Photocopy of photo/name page of Passport
    ii) Residential address in Chiang Mai
    iii) Email address
    2) Once the number of foreign nationals requiring vaccination has been registered, Chiang Mai Provincial Health Office will then put in a request for COVID-19 vaccines for foreign nationals from national vaccine supply.
    3) Once approval has been granted, vaccines will be shipped to Chiang Mai. Foreign nationals will then be instructed to go to their nearest hospital to be vaccinated.
    Enquiries:
    Ann
    Chiang Mai Vaccine Center
    Chiang Mai Provincial Health Office
    053 211048-50
    0960138522

  4. Expats should thank their good fortune and hope that the delay lasts longer. Here is one reason:
    “COVID-19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralising antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated.
    This quote appears in an October 2020 study, published in the International Journal of Clinical Practice. The title of the study: “Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease.”
    The study declares that volunteers in COVID vaccine clinical trials and people who receive the vaccine after clinical trials—meaning now—should be informed there is a risk of “more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated.”

  5. @Rick I agree that more data and research are needed, however we all must consider that being contaminated by Covi looks like a big gamble: if infected, one never knows if he/she will just be asymptomatic and pretty fine or end up in a ICU dying by pneumonia/ suffocating to death. I still believe taking the risk of vaccination is preferable than the other option.

  6. If you’re in the at-risk .005% group, as an expat in Thailand, you should probably head back to your country of origin for the next couple yrs. It’s not a truth many want to acknowledge, but it’s time, guys.

  7. Interesting – I’ve heard that authorities extended vaccinations to foreigners on Koh Tao (discreetly).
    And today the COVID International Community Support Chiang Mai had a post up stating:

    INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY IMPORTANT COVID-19 NEWS
    Chiang Mai Provincial Health Office is making preparations to offer COVID-19 vaccination to all foreign nationals in Chiang Mai Province free of charge. The vaccinations are expected to take place in June 2021 but precise details are still being finalized.

    1) All foreign nationals who wish to accept this offer must contact Chiang Mai Vaccination Centre as soon as possible via either:
    Email: xxxxx
    LINE messenger ID phone number: xxxxxx
    App: Mor Phrom
    Local Hospital registration
    Include following document and details
    i) Photocopy of photo/name page of Passport
    ii) Residential address in Chiang Mai
    iii) Email address
    2) Once the number of foreign nationals requiring vaccination has been registered, Chiang Mai Provincial Health Office will then put in a request for COVID-19 vaccines for foreign nationals from national vaccine supply.
    3) Once approval has been granted, vaccines will be shipped to Chiang Mai. Foreign nationals will then be instructed to go to their nearest hospital to be vaccinated.
    Enquiries:
    Ann
    Chiang Mai Vaccine Center
    Chiang Mai Provincial Health Office

  8. I think the retired foreigner are the one who should be worried, they are in a big risk because of their age. But what I read is just about foreigners with work permit?!!

  9. @Don Meurett – What current higher priority could the US embassy claim to have? It is a bad idea to travel home unvaccinated, and has been for more than a year. I’m happy to pay for the vaccine if it’s Pfizer. 40 billion in foreign aid and they won’t arrange vaccines for people willing to pay for them. Disappointing.

  10. They are dreaming, vaccinating the whole country (65%) will take more than a year, just observe the countries where they have enough doses and where they are better organized than Thailand

  11. Yeah….f*ck ’em , as we say. My personal boycott stands. I won’t spend or contribute a dime to this racist regime, and I hope all three million foreign residents of all incomes take a stand. Write your embassy and lodge a complaint. Write your favorite hotel and tell them why you’re not coming. The idea that Thai wants vaccinated foreigners starting July but won’t vaccinate foreigners here is outrageous. I strongly encourage you all to write your media and OTA contacts in your home countries and ‘out’ the racists for the scum they are. If Thai wants our money, let them apologize….or face the consequence. Our slogan should be ” The World is Watching”.

  12. Again, they change their tune?

    The only truth here is that the Thai government is blatantly showing its xenophobia and its disregard for farang as anything other than money-makers for them.

    They don’t respect us as part of their communities. We can still pay them for every visa, permit and re-entry permission, we can still pay our taxes and contribute to our communities, but we will never be treated as equals.

    The Thai attitude to foreigners is, “Come for three weeks, spend as much money as you can, then get the f*** out!”

    In my home country, getting a vaccination is as easy as walking into a center, regardless of your civil status.

    I regret ever moving here.

  13. Another day another plan, and often a delay plan.
    Even the registration system does not work. The Thais are out of their depth. They need the West to arrive and show them what to do.
    They strut around showing a chest full of medals but do no have one for intelligence.

  14. The following two excerpts are contradictory are they not.

    “As I have said before, the Health Ministry plans to vaccinate Thais first. We will try our best to vaccinate Thais within 2 months, namely June and July, and then try to open foreign resident registration in August.”

    She says the first people to be vaccinated in the government rollout will be healthcare workers and other frontline staff, as well as people with underlying conditions and the elderly, before moving on to the rest of the population, including foreigners.

    First excerpt is yet another racist statement, but tomorrow it will probably be just another misunderstanding

    Most expats are elderly and may well have underlying conditions and your first statement implies that you are going to vaccinate younger, healthier people ahead of elderly and possibly more vulnerable people with underlying conditions just because of their race.

    This is such sad state of affairs when your own Thai citizens in other countries are being treated in line with the second excerpt, regardless of race. Time for you to step up and reciprocate that benefit.

    Ever thought that maybe just maybe the reason your supply of vaccine is so slow, is that silently, suppliers (mostly countries that have the very same expats you are penalising in a racist way) are providing other more accommodating countries first. It would not surprise me. You can never know what discussions take place above the clouds.

    1. What is it with some of you idiots and your racist claims. Racism is a white country thing and the Thais actually discriminate more against there own than they do towards most foreigners. No expat “ deserves “ a free vaccine and it seems like many of the complaints by your ilk are really more about being too cheap to spring for your own vaccine. All of you who complain about imaginary racism or poor treatment should stop whining and just go home to your perfect country.

  15. “I regret ever moving here”

    So unless you’re in Klong Prem, why are you still here?

    “In my home country, getting a vaccination is as easy as walking into a center, regardless of your civil status.”

    Then why not go back to your “home country” and walk into your “center”, get your vaccination, and stay there?

  16. @Amonwan – If foreign businesses and professional residents were to leave for a week Thailand would collapse. What Thailand achieved on its own, in the decades before western authority arrived, was little more than a mosquito infested swamp where millions were starving. Before tourists arrived in that latter ‘80s Thailand was an uneducated peasant commune starving in the mud. It was western investment in infrastructure that lifted Thais out of poverty, nothing to do with any effort by Thai. Tourism wasn’t created by any Thai initiative , you have guidebooks like Lonely Planet to thank for that. Thai hides envy behind racist nationalism only to avoid facing the truth, that foreigners are the only thing keeping the country from devolving back into swampland. Everything you have has been given to you out of a western culture of charity.

  17. “The following two excerpts are contradictory are they not.”

    No.

    Panruedee Manomaipiboon is director of the BMA’s health department, NOT the Health Ministry, so what she says is correct for the BMA.

    First to be vaccinated by the BMA will be healthcare workers and other frontline staff, as well as those living in key areas such as Klong Toey.

    Obviously those are all Thai, with possibly a handful of foreigners, and that will use up the full allocation of vaccines the BMA has for May, June and July.

    There aren’t any more vaccines available.

    After that it’s open to everyone, elderly, etc first.

    Some undeserving Thais in the right place will inevitably be vaccinated before some deserving farangs, just as some undeserving farangs will be vaccinated before some deserving Thais.

    “Most expats are elderly…”

    Rubbish. You’re confusing expats and foreigners with farangs. The vast majority of the 3 million “foreigners” and “expats” in Thailand are young,fit, healthy migrant workers, not aging, retired farangs which is all your own “racist” view has considered, ignoring the rest.

    “maybe just maybe the reason your supply of vaccine is so slow, is that silently, suppliers … are providing other more accommodating countries first”

    Maybe the moon’s made of cheese, but all the evidence is that it’s not, just as all the evidence is that manufacturers are selling to the first and highest bidder.

    Thailand has completely mismanaged the vaccine purchase and rollout, for reasons which are obvious to most but can’t be discussed. Thais are suffering from that in just the same way as migrant workers, foreigners and farangs – the only difference is that the farangs think they’re more entitled.

  18. “Time for you to step up and reciprocate that benefit.”

    You left out that pearl, @Me Two.

    Shouldn’t those “other countries” “reciprocate” by giving their citizens the same visas on arrival, tourist visas and retirement visas that Thailand does?

    No, of course they shouldn’t, it’s entirely up to them but it’s no more absurd.

  19. “… in the decades before western authority arrived …”

    When did “western authority” arrive in Thailand, @J West?

    … and what “western investment in infrastructure” was “given out of a western culture of charity” rather than out of a western culture of making a profit?

    … what “western investment in infrastructure” was actually made in Thailand at all?

  20. @Amonwan – I don’t need to spring for my own I am fully vaccinated with Phizer both doses and I don’t need to go home. I am already there. I work for the Health service where we are busy vaccinating everybody for free including Thai nationals on age and underlying need basis. Not where they come from.

    It’s racism plain and simple.

    Definition of racism

    The inability or refusal to recognize the rights, needs, dignity, or value of people of particular races or geographical origins.

    @Me Two. She clearly says. “ As I have said before, the Health Ministry plans to vaccinate Thais first”. It is your assumption that she will include foreign workers.

    Regarding your comment to Mister Stretch.

    Then why not go back to your “home country” and walk into your “center”, get your vaccination, and stay there? Are you suggesting that’s how we should treat Thais living and Woking in our countries.

    Thought not.

  21. While most countries, like Laos, do not differentiate where you were born when vaccinating people, status addicted Thailand does. This will see young little at risk Thais vaccinated before 80 year old foreigners with health problems. Why not do it properly and vaccinate hi so first, then rich Thais and then working class, beggars then homeless before getting round to elderly foreigners? Shameful, racist and putting a lot of people unnecessarily at risk.

  22. I don’t know what the problem is you all. I was visited by local hospital staff at my home asking if I wanted the vaccine. I declined the China version but will be of the first in our area to receive the Pfizer.

  23. @Amonwan – wrong again dipstick.
    The majority of real people in Thailand are kind caring lovely people, it’s just a few “a bit like you really” that are pathetic little uneducated creatures and those currently in power with jobs they have no idea how to do, because of nepotism (sorry that’s probably a bit of a difficult wort for you to understand), but you can look it up and also those more interested in scamming money for their own pockets.

    For what it’s worth, I will travel wherever I choose, safe upon the knowledge the Karma will take care of people like you. Had your vaccination yet. No, Oh dear.

    No need to reply, I shall not be revising this page again.

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