25 new Covid-19 cases detected in quarantine including 7 returning from Myanmar

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   Gigitour

   Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 2:07 pm

   but they don’t take the test 72 hours before leaving?

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     Issan John

     Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 2:37 pm

     Yes they do.

     The test could be fiddled, results faked, or not be carried out properly, or they could have caught it in the 72 hours before leaving or at the airport or on the plane, or the virus could be in incubation for up to a fortnight (longer, in rare cases).

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       14cycles

       Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 2:42 pm

       This sounds really scary, when you put it like that. We could all have it and not know it!

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         Issan John

         Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 3:45 pm

         Not “all”!

         If you accept that 80% are asymptomatic and 20% are symptomatic, which is the generally accepted figure, then it follows that around four times as many “have it” as have the symptoms.

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       J West

       Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 11:44 am

       There was that revelation published in The Guardian that “ travel agents” were supplying bogus Covid Test docs ….provided in the U.K. Has the practice been taken up globally? Your guestimations are as good as anyone’s, but, it’s still seems very strange that a Covid free person gets on a plane and a Covid positive person gets off Mere hours later. It just has the taint of wonder.

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   Rasputin

   Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 2:41 pm

   What a surprise, no Brits for a change (despite being riddled with it)

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     Issan John

     Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 3:52 pm

     Probably because so few are coming here at the moment 🙂

     At 211 hospitalised, that’s the highest number since the end of April.

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   Rick

   Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 5:27 pm

   According to the story, all of these people have tested positive but we are not told whether any are showing symptoms. It would be good to have more information as to the test being used and how it works. Assuming that the test is the RTPCR test, many of these people may not have the virus at all. There is a new report by 22 eminent scientists called the Corman-Drosten Review Report. In this report the authors state unequivocally that if the RTPCR test is run at 35 or more cycles the false positive rate is a stunning 97 percent. Since this is what is being done with most of the tests it means that many people are coming up false positive. This can be dangerous since the general public is more fearful as more cases are reported, not to mention the stigma attached to those who have tested positive who will have to quarantine and may be subject to medical treatment and drugs that they do not require. It would be good if the Thaiger could provide more information in their stories and perhaps print more details about the testing methods.

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     Issan John

     Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 7:04 pm

     You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to work out that if the “false positive rate is a stunnng 97%” then 97 out of every 100 tested would be testing positive, falsely, plus those genuinely positive.

     They’re not.

     Alternatively, if you mean that 97% of the positives are false, and only 3% genuine, then less than 3% of those testing positive would develop symptoms (not 20%), with over 97% asymptomatic (not 80%).

     Again, they’re not.

     QED

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       Rick

       Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 10:34 am

       I don’t know where you get the 20 percent figure. Even the stories that have been printed in the Thaiger in recent weeks do not bear out your claim that 20 percent of those tested are showing symptoms. Not to mention that not everyone with cold or flu symptoms are infected with the virus. That is the point. It is not known who is infected or not since the tests are so inaccurate.

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   Ian

   Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 6:54 pm

   Headlines no farang coming to Thailand but lots of covid get ready here it comes and not a farang to blame only this mis guided misinformed government they tried but lost like the rest if the world thank God for England once again to save the world

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