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Navy starts “Thai Submarines” Facebook page following last year’s controversy

Caitlin Ashworth

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PHOTO: Facebook/ Thai Submarines

After much criticism last year over plans to purchase submarines, the Royal Thai Navy launched the new Facebook page “Thai Submarines” which a spokesperson says is intended to provide accurate information about Navy submarines. Posts on the page outline the history of Navy submarines, including a photo of Thailand’s first submarine which was in service from 1938 to 1951.

The Navy was under fire late last year for pushing to purchase 2 Chinese submarines for 22.5 billion baht. Thailand had already bought a submarine from China in 2017. It’s expected to be delivered by 2023. Many criticised the Navy for focusing on purchasing more submarines during the Covid-19 pandemic. Others say the submarines are unnecessary and will not be useful in the shallow Gulf of Thailand.

At one point, the Navy fronted the media to explain the controversial budget allocation for submarines. A source from the Navy had told Thai PBS World that clarification was necessary because misleading information was being spread.

The new Thai Submarines social media page will provide information about the Navy submarines, but also share general information, documentaries and other resources related to submarines, according to Navy spokesperson Chettha Jaipiem.

Click HERE to go to the “Thai Submarines” Facebook page.

Navy starts "Thai Submarines" Facebook page following last year's controversy | News by Thaiger

SOURCE: Pattaya News

 

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37 Comments

37 Comments

  1. Avatar

    Geoff

    Monday, February 15, 2021 at 6:26 pm

    There doesn’t seem to be any military reason for Thailand to have submarines.

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      Issan John

      Monday, February 15, 2021 at 6:29 pm

      … or an aircraft carrier, without aircraft … 😮

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      Issan John

      Monday, February 15, 2021 at 6:46 pm

      To be fair, Geoff, while it’s a mixture of toys for the boys and keeping up with the Jones’s Thailand’s far from the only one.

      The UK’s got not just one aircraft carrier it doesn’t have the aircraft for so it’s had to borrow some with their crews from the US, but it’s got a second on order even though the first leaks like the proverbial sieve.

      … and it’s not just not got enough aircraft for one carrier let alone two, but it hasn’t got enough sailors to man them and is trying to re-recruit its pensioners (and failing).

      … and at the same time that it’s spent billions on carriers that have no justifiable “military reason”, there aren’t enough ships to protect against Somali pirates, look for refugees in the Med, or fight another cod war with the EU.

      Go figure … military intelligence 😮

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        Toby Andrews

        Monday, February 15, 2021 at 10:08 pm

        His number one excuse for stupidity, cheating, corruption in Thailand is Well: in the West …
        This is not a forum about the western democratic nations!

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        Steven Collins

        Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 12:11 pm

        I think you better stick to non military issues as you obviously no nothing about the subject.

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          Issan John

          Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 12:30 am

          😮 really??? 😮

          Do tell …

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        harry1

        Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 3:06 pm

        uk has 2 huge newly commissioned aircraft carrier,carrying 60 F35 stealth planes and the most advance weaponry in the world,there were issues on leaks,but now fully operational.l read they be sailing into the south china seas very soon.but as far as these subs,would had been better to purchase helicopter surveillance to protect their borders,which as they know is being infiltrated on a daily basis

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          Issan John

          Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 1:11 am

          If that’s what you’ve read, Harry1, it’s very incorrect – as all the information is in the public domain I’m not speaking out of turn.

          They’re not “carrying 60 F35 stealth planes”. HMS QE has never deployed with more than 15, and HMS PoW currently has none as it’s under repair.

          HMS PoW is undergoing major repairs after flooding in May and flooding due to faulty pipework in October last year, not due to be completed until mid-2021, before sea trials around the UK – unlikely to be able to deploy until 2022. Widely reported and discussed in Parliament.

          HMS QE has also had flooding issues, but for different reasons, and won’t be deploying to the South Chine Sea until May.

          Repairs to both (not running costs or maintenance, but additional repairs due to the flooding) last year cost more than US$55 million.

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            EdwardV

            Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 3:51 am

            If it’s any consolation, I’m reading the US Marines of VMFA-211 love the HMS QE. With it being so much larger than the USS Essex, and a whole lot less planes, the crew have extra berthing and work space.

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        David Mann

        Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 9:58 pm

        ?????

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    Ian

    Monday, February 15, 2021 at 6:49 pm

    Hete he goes again knocking UK what a lowlife

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      Issan John

      Monday, February 15, 2021 at 7:02 pm

      If the cap fits, Ian … why defend the indefensible and encourage the incorrigible?

      I’m sure that with your vast military expertise, though, you can explain why the UK needs a couple of carriers it’s not got the aircraft (or crew) for, at the expense of anti-piracy ops, etc …

      … or not 🙂

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      Tom

      Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 12:03 am

      It’s why he lives in Issan probably got chased out of the UK for chasing anything with a pulse male or female age unimportant, so he has to stick up for the country that’ll let him get away with his “passtimes”

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        David Mann

        Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 9:57 pm

        I would urge everyone just to ignore the troll IJ. Just ignore him and he will surely go away. Or just laugh at him.

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    Ozvenison

    Monday, February 15, 2021 at 7:22 pm

    Its quiet simple..
    the gulf of Thailand has mean depth of 58m and max depth of 85m!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Thailand
    I’m sure these stealth subs will be very hard to detect 🙂
    Waste of $$$’s

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    Jim kelly

    Monday, February 15, 2021 at 9:04 pm

    Why the feck are we discussing the ‘UK’ here? The article is all about Thailand wasting 22 Billion Baht! Hey, this comes from the military that brought you a stupid, dressed up Poodle dog as ‘Air Chief Marshall!’

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      Issan John

      Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:30 am

      Yaay – at least in the good ole UK our dogs are only Junior NCOs 😮

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    Grumpy John

    Monday, February 15, 2021 at 9:08 pm

    I am sure the Navy brass will find dozens of very good reasons to have 3 submarines. Something like.

    1/ If the first one sinks there will only be a short wait to get a replacement…3 years instead of 6.

    2/ 3 submarines means there will always be one available for the defense of the country.

    3/ The deal for 2 and 3 was to good to pass on.

    4/ A submarine is an essential part of an aircraft carrier group and once the Navy get some modern aircraft the carrier group will be at sea on a regular basis.

    5/ If those war mongers in Singapore have submarines we need some to…just in case.

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    Mr cynic

    Monday, February 15, 2021 at 9:32 pm

    Everybody seems to be missing the real reason why extremely expensive military hardware is ever purchased in the first place.

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    Jim kelly

    Monday, February 15, 2021 at 9:33 pm

    Just in case of ‘WHAT’ exactly?! Raid Thailand for ‘what’? I bet the Thai people are sleeping so much better in their beds tonight knowing that 22 billion has been ‘justified”. We wouldn’t want to be using it to buy White Elephants now would we!!!!

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    Toby Andrews

    Monday, February 15, 2021 at 10:37 pm

    I have checked out the Thai submarine Face Book, and there are a lot of Ha Ha faces next to the Thai announcements on submarines, and they are all Thai contributions!

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    EdwardV

    Monday, February 15, 2021 at 10:53 pm

    Is there a military reason for Thailand to have submarines? Keeping in mind Thailand has already bought one from China, it’s due to be delivered in 2023. What is in question is do they need two more? There is the argument that one isn’t much of a threat or useful by itself. You need three to make sure one is at sea at all times. The fact is two or three of them prowling the Gulf of Thailand would give any navy pause. Still that really doesn’t answer the question. Problem is Thailand doesn’t really need subs since they don’t really have any enemies. The whole idea they need them because their neighbors have them is absurd on it’s face. If there is going to be a coming war, it’s probably not going to directly effect Thailand. The question is who is Thailand purchasing subs to protect themselves from or to attack in the event of war? There is only one predatory country in the area, and it’s the one they are buying the subs from. How does that make sense? Unless Thailand plans to take a more active roll in what is likely coming, there is little to no reason to be buying subs. That said, how did a topic about Thai subs turn into an argument about UK aircraft carriers?

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    Jim kelly

    Monday, February 15, 2021 at 11:10 pm

    The Junta Government here relies on feeding it’s people lies, propaganda and creating anxieties! This is just another tool in their weaponry in order to give these warnings some credence. AND, THE TIMID THAI POPULATION…will believe every single sound byte from the man with black bags under his eyes.
    When I see TV broadcasts showing these military ‘tee-WATS’handing out blankets and a photo of ‘him who can’t be named’to the poor and needy, I think to myself, “It’s just a fuckin’ 20 baht blanket and a photo shopped picture!” Why the hell would you suffer the indignity of getting on your knees and almost kissing the hands of these uniformed wankers! They’re ‘buying your loyalty for 20 baht!!!” Wake up!!! FIND YOUR DIGNITY!!!

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    Ian

    Monday, February 15, 2021 at 11:29 pm

    The only rationality is they are buying them if they ever actually do is because they will be just another Chinese outpost ,China must be rubbing thier hands at these fools

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    Baroness

    Monday, February 15, 2021 at 11:31 pm

    Gulf of Thailand maximum depth = 85 meters, average depth = 58 meters.
    So they won’t be able to navigate in the Gulf without being sitting ducks for depth charges or torpedos.
    What is the logic to have them patrolling the Andaman Sea? Check farang’s behaviour in Patong?
    If you need to stay at periscope depth better get some modern frigates for the 3rd of the price.

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    Issan John

    Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 12:15 am

    Both equally pointless?

    Both bought for the same reasons?

    Both something their respective countries don’t need and can’t afford?

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    James Pate

    Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 6:09 am

    I look forward to watching the submarine races in Sattahip.
    In the town, where I was born
    Lived a man, who sailed to sea
    And he told me of his life
    In the land, of submarines

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    Owiee

    Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 6:15 am

    I find such a spend hard to justify in the current climate, l am not in a position to make a judgment of if these submarines are needed, however l would suggest such high level expenditure should be deferred until such time as the County can address its internal issues of poverty.

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    Bill

    Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 7:02 am

    We all live in a yellow submarine. A yellow submarine, a yellow submarine.

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    Bobby B

    Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 7:30 am

    How is gonna drive these Subs, I mean with a debt of 58-88 meters those Subs will soon end up in a riverbank somewhere like motorcycles crashing into a 7-Eleven…

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    Timmytime

    Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 8:37 am

    The old subs the navy has spends all their time docked most part of the year. Their really is no military need or any need for new submarines but the other countries got them and so should the victorious Thai Navy right, even if they will sit at the docks for the most part of the year like the old ones. China and the CCP most likely was the only ones who was willing to sell Thailand their junk anyway.

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      Issan John

      Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:33 am

      Ummm … what “old subs”??? 😮 😮 😮

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    Yan

    Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 11:04 am

    The submarines will not ban Covid nor help any one…This shows again the incredible stupidity that rules this country…and where the “tea-money” will go?

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    Toby Andrews

    Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 2:19 pm

    If they drive their submarines like they drive on the roads, I would not like to be out fishing on a boat at night.

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    Swampy

    Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 2:28 pm

    The smallest aircraft carrier in the world with no aircraft is now basically a tourist attraction, often referred to as the ‘Thai Tanic’
    Then there are the zillions of baht for the subs and the Thai moon expedition but, hey, you want a reliable supply of tap water in the villages? Nope can’t afford to do that, got to pretend to be a 1st world country.

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    Jim kelly

    Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 9:54 pm

    yoh, Toby…me neither! IDIOTS!!

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    Roger Bruce

    Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 8:59 am

    No wonder you guys are living in Thailand
    No way your country would accept your dribble
    It seems the Aussie term “whingeing Poms” can apply to the ex-pats in Thailand also
    You rantings are nothing to do with this article or Thailand
    Get a life
    Good Luck Thailand

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Caitlin Ashworth is a writer from the United States who has lived in Thailand since 2018. She graduated from the University of South Florida St. Petersburg with a bachelor’s degree in journalism and media studies in 2016. She was a reporter for the Daily Hampshire Gazette In Massachusetts. She also interned at the Richmond Times-Dispatch in Virginia and Sarasota Herald-Tribune in Florida.

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