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Qantas, Australia’s national airline, is announcing a new requirement that all international travellers will need to have a vaccination against Covid-19 in a move that could become the norm for the world’s airline industry. Qantas CEO Alan Joyce says the Australian flag carrier would implement the measure once a coronavirus vaccine was made available to the public.

“We are looking at changing our terms and conditions to say for international travellers that we will ask people to have a vaccination before they can get on the aircraft.”

“Whether you need that domestically, we will have to see what happens with Covid-19 in the market but certainly, for international visitors coming out (to Australia) and people leaving the country, we think that is a necessity.”

Joyce says the new rule is likely to become a standard practice by all airlines worldwide as many governments are now working to introduce electronic vaccination passports. Vaccination requirements are already widely used around the world for those wishing to enter certain countries, with many countries wanting travellers show they have been inoculated against yellow fever if they are coming from regions where that disease could be acquired.

The International Air Transport Association has also announced it is in the “final stages” of developing a digital health pass that it says can be used to record Covid-19 tests or vaccinations and will “support the safe reopening of borders.”

“We are bringing this to market in the coming months to also meet the needs of the various travel bubbles and public health corridors that are starting operation.”

Australia’s borders have been closed since March to help stop the spread of the virus, which has taken the lives of more than 1 million people worldwide. The country has even limited its own citizens arrivals from abroad by implementing a weekly quota that has left thousands stranded overseas. Qantas has grounded more than 200 planes and let go 8,500 staff members as it attempts to offset a US 1.9 billion loss.

SOURCE: Bangkok Post

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    Perceville Smithers

    Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 4:04 pm

    Dpending what the type of work you do, it might be required.

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      rr

      Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 1:59 pm

      just like yellow fever requirements, so that’s fine.

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    Don R

    Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 4:05 pm

    They said they’re “looking into it”

    So the airline that isn’t flying, from the country that doesn’t allow travel, is considering requiring a vaccine that isn’t available yet, for passengers that won’t need it, in a move that will deny access to vulnerable people.

    Does it get any dumber than this?

    Beautiful metaphor for the covid panic. Fear, Ego, Virtue Signalling. That’s our motto.

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      Issan John

      Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 5:09 pm

      Well, three out of five’s not bad.

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        Don R

        Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 11:16 am

        You covid panic warriors don’t think much do you?

        By the time the vaccine is mass produced and widely available for young healthy travelers who aren’t at risk from covid, the covid pandemic will already be over in most of the world.

        If you try to require it right away, you’ll just be taking a dose away from a vulnerable person.

        Irrational and unethical, that’s the covid panic way!

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          Issan John

          Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 4:09 pm

          Maybe I am a “vulnerable person”?

          … and in Thailand, with the vaccine produced here at minimal cost, it’s likely to be widely and readily available to all the population (including expats) before it is in much of the rest of the world.

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            Don R

            Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 9:22 pm

            Then you have nothing to worry about. Relax. Soon it’ll all be over, and you’ll be back to not caring about the 9 million people who starve to death every year.

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      David Barker

      Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 2:22 am

      What do you expect from Australia and the idiot Joyce.They even turned their back on their own people when it mattered
      Boy do these people love themselves.
      This airline has to be one of the worst you could fly anyway.
      Thank god Qatar didn’t desert Australians

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    Toby Andrews

    Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 4:19 pm

    Well if I fly on them I shall want to see proof that the captains and aircrew have all been vaccinated.
    However I would not object to this requirement myself.

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    SG666

    Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 6:19 pm

    Good, Australia is of the list than, same as Quantas.

    Will travel with somebody and somewhere where no mandatory Vaccine requirement exists.

    Shengen looks good..I do not think they will reintroduce inner border controls, this would be the end of the European Union.

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      The Thaiger & The Nation

      Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 7:32 pm

      At least spell QANTAS right please. It’s an acronym, not a word.

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    Brian

    Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:11 pm

    If they require vaccination, I simply won’t fly with them.

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      The Thaiger & The Nation

      Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:20 pm

      Looks like you’ll be on the ground now that IATA has announced it as a requirement.

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        SG666

        Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:53 pm

        There are other sources of transport available. If you are in certain areas of Europe for example you can access a lot nice places by car. This under the assumption that Shengen will not reinstate inner border controls

        To get out of LOScam should be easy though even per air, simply buy a fake certificate, should be available from a reliable source as you can buy everything and everybody in LOScam if you have enough cash available. One of the few things I like here.

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          Peter

          Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 1:19 am

          Don’t you think the governments have not thought about that very scenario, there are plans to develop an International system of electronic verification, a “doctors note” just won’t be acceptable, dream on.

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            SG666

            Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 8:44 am

            Than the guy you pay off has to fix the electronic verification.
            As long it is app based the data have to be manually put in the system. May be bit more expensive to fix but can be done

            If they go for the nano chip technology of Mr. Gates than its indeed a problem but I doubt that will happen as than – as i said in a previous post on another topic – people will start armed rebellions against their governments which I would personally support.

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          Khunplastic

          Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 6:04 pm

          Would imagine they will be electonicly checkable in this day and age.
          Most of the fake degrees,tefl certificates and the like you can purchase from the university of Khao San road are easily checked up on nowadays.

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        Don R

        Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 11:11 am

        Looks like you’re in the tank for this thing and not objective.

        Vaccine isn’t even available yet.

        And this policy makes zero sense.

        Go back to journalism school.

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          The Thaiger & The Nation

          Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 11:23 am

          We don’t make the policy, we just report the news.

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            Don R

            Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 3:55 pm

            IATA and Qantas haven’t made any policy yet, nor will their policies be binding for the whole world. Most likely the policy will be set by individual national govts.

            As for the policy itself, I don’t even see how it’s feasible. Vaccine won’t be widely distributed in SE Asia for many months, it could be years. So until then only Westerners will be flying? And what if you’re a Westerner in Asia and you want to fly back? By the time the vaccine is widely available, the pandemic will be over.

            Clearly this policy hasn’t been thought through by the people proposing it or the media sycophants promoting it.

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      Daniel Verex

      Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 11:33 pm

      why?

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        Brian

        Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 6:33 pm

        All vaccines carry risks, even ones developed long ago. This vaccine has been rushed. It is a vaccine for a disease of so little danger that in years past, we simply would have endured it without even being aware that there was a “pandemic” going on, like we did in 1968-69 during the HK flu (Woodstock was held during a pandemic). Obviously during that time, there were no lockdowns, masks, flying restrictions, etc.

        This is an extremely political manufactured “crisis” during a time when there’s way too much weird stuff going on (probable fraud in the US election, the Great Reset, etc)

        Making some weird new unnecessary vaccine mandatory just to fly is unacceptable. I won’t help them set any such precedent.

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    AI

    Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 9:56 pm

    Now, I wonder how many people will go for that? You can say goodbye to a very large number of souls who do not wish to be injected with something never mentions it’s ingredients and offer liability for any damages….. That just won’t work. How about those with HIV? (saw somebody mention this kind of thing on this or another site) Should they be discriminated also? Be tattooed or be made to wear a star or something?
    Oh, BTW – after all of this time, there still is no vaccine for HIV is there?
    And that supposedly killed how many people?

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      Don R

      Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 4:00 pm

      For almost 30 years the US had an HIV travel ban (many countries still do), but it was almost never enforced.

      I wouldn’t put it past a nanny state like Australia to require a covid vaccine, but the rest of the world is more practical. This policy is simply not practical. Hope and pray that cooler heads prevail and we can get back to normal in a year or two.

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      Issan John

      Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 4:15 pm

      How about those with HIV? they don’t transmit the virus by breathing or touching, but by transferring bodily fluid – rather more difficult.

      … and the manufacturers DO actually say what’s in the vaccine, even if it’s beyond you (like most other things).

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        AI

        Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 7:49 pm

        Wouldn’t expect anything but a snarky reply from the site’s cheerleader for doom and gloom.
        So, mister know-it-all, what are the ingredients? You can post here without a link, right?

        And what about liability? Is there ANY liability for damages from the vaccine?

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    Daniel Verex

    Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 11:32 pm

    The larger question is what vaccines will each country recognize. EG – will the Russian vaccine and digital passport be recognized and accepted in Thailand for example or will this be like Eurovision, certain countries only ‘scoring’ certain other countries vaccines.

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      Peter

      Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 1:34 am

      Well, that is totally at the discretion of the country you are seeking admission to, they choose, you don’t. I think countries will be “adult” about this since most countries want International travel to resume in the near future. BUT countries with very low covid rates eg Thailand, Taiwan, Cambodia, Vietnam etc will likely still have some sort of quarantine requirement, in the early stages of boarder reopening. It’s not game over yet, by a long way.

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    zig

    Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 1:25 am

    wake up..this vaccine does not prevent you from getting the virus..only from getting the sick symptons…you can still get the virus and carry on as an asymptomatic carrier…WTF are they planning on injecting people with

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      Issan John

      Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 4:06 pm

      Something a number of those commenting here refuse to recognise.

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      ray

      Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 6:13 pm

      Yes, you might get the virus but it will not multiply within your body. Hence you will only carry a small short-lived dose. That is likely not enough to spread to others because it is already clear that one needs to contract a high dose to kickstart an infection. However, scientists will only claim immunity from spreading after they have sufficient proof. Only after they have followed vaccinated people for a certain period there will be an official statement. A little trust and logic is what we need right now.

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        Patrick Kelly

        Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 3:02 am

        Asymptotic cases means Thailand will remain closed for years even with vaccine. That’s what many locals want to occur. The economy will remain in tatters if that’s the case.

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    AI

    Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 8:58 pm

    And here we go again! Without any proof whatsoever of this “virus” actually existing – absolutely nothng/nada/mai me alai/nixt/rien. NOTHING at all.

    Got to admit that the people behind all of this, indeed, have a very dark sinister agenda which have affected so many good, innocent people out there.

    And hope one day all of these will be put behind bars for the world to see what utter scumbag, lowlifes they are. 😉

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      AIA

      Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 9:25 pm

      Trump voter

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      altont

      Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 9:10 am

      More than one million deaths in the world and dumbs like you denying the mere facts. you should be banned to use Internet for life.

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        SG666

        Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 12:08 pm

        So what..9.5 million people die every year because of cancer, the traffic related deathrate is similar to the published deathrate for covid…suggest you stay home and lock the door than.

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    Don R

    Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 10:19 pm

    Global airline industry distances itself from Qantas vaccine requirement

    IATA CEO, Alexandre de Juniac:

    “…it is a bit premature to say when and how the vaccination progress will be spread all around the world and the whole world will be done… We cannot wait for the vaccine to be deployed… Testing is the key priority… the key issue [is] to remove the travel restrictions, that is the point I think we should focus on… An immediate solution already exists, we could safely open borders today with systematic COVID-19 testing…”

    “CEO of JetBlue, Robin Hayes said he was optimistic that by mid-next year there would be enormous ‘momentum’ for the travel industry fuelled by ‘pent-up demand’ from people who had delayed and cancelled trips as the pandemic bore down.”

    CEO of German carrier Lufthansa: “Everybody I talk to in my circle of friends or family is just so ready to travel again…”

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    robt M

    Friday, November 27, 2020 at 4:02 am

    10’s of millions take an annual flu shot and a large percentage still catch the flu. Vaccines are fools gold, not cures. Stay healthy and trust your immune system.

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    Nemo

    Friday, November 27, 2020 at 12:32 pm

    Amazing. So they would require you to provide proof of being vaccinated by an unproven drug, regardless of where it comes from, and the fact that the drug company has been indemnified of any liability should they screw you up, so that you can fly to wherever? I’ll pass. They can go bankrupt.

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