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Hi guys, I have been quite busy making a few designs for my future retirement home. A bit of background, me and my wife own a few houses and a condo in Bkk as well as an ancestral house/land 2 hrs north of Bkk but we plan to give all those away to our daughter once both of us retired. God knows how expensive real estate will be in another 20 years in the city so best to give our kid a head start.

Recently we acquired a 1 rai land at Chanthaburi since we both love that province a lot, it seems to have the best of everything - nice beaches, islands, not too far away from Bkk & Pattaya incase there is a need for something unobtainable here, mountains, waterfalls, lots of fruit plantations and very near to the border of Cambodia if we feel like doing some gambling at the casinos.

So here is one of the house design that I have come up with, I am not an architect but I do have some AutoCAD knowledge. I also got some ideas looking at a few house plans from some of Thailand's biggest housing developers (Land & Houses, Sansiri, AP etc.)

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Hello and welcome to TT Forums

Allow me to comment re your design as I too enjoy designing my own homes.  Having briefly had shares in a building Co., in Australia many years ago, I had a hand in many designs and practical fixes to complex problems.

Carport could ideally have direct access into the house from centre of wall, where the shower(?) is.  Shower really not necessary downstairs.  You can close up the toilet/vanity to gain room and delete the shower/laundry wall, rearrange to create more space, incl. relocate of garage store and laundry tubs,

Kitchen - make U-shape for extra bench space and breakfast bar.

Bed #3 needs re-design as bed against wall corner never works,

Cheers

Rob.

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Hi Rob thanks for the welcome. 

Thanks for the input as well. I like the idea about the U shape at the kitchen. I have been trying to incorporate such design into this house but somehow it didn't quite work so I guess I'll have to look at more of other kitchen samples for inspiration.

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2 minutes ago, Noble_Design said:

I have been trying to incorporate such design into this house but somehow it didn't quite work so I guess I'll have to look at more of other kitchen samples for inspiration.

I enjoy cooking and therefore kitchen designs was always important.  This was our 1st Thai house kitchen - complete with corner pantry beside fridge (out of pic on right). 9 years ago the best I could do was order standard premade Starmark cabinet modules in 450/600/900 sizes, and modify into a U-shape.  Threw away the tops and had a granite top installed.  All up it cost me under 50,000 bt.

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2nd house I lashed out for a full lacquered custom build to my design, as below:-

Photo taken before I installed a brushed aluminium tambour (roll-up) door on the appliance cupboard - corner pantry on left beside fridge (out of pic).

As you may know, rule of thumb with kitchen design is the imaginary  triangle between cooking > sink/prep > fridge.   All should be quite separate.  We also have an IKEA ss/bamboo-top prep bench in the centre which is my best innovation yet.  But you do need a big kitchen for that.

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Hopefully that may inspire thoughts 😀

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20 hours ago, KaptainRob said:

I enjoy cooking and therefore kitchen designs was always important.  This was our 1st Thai house kitchen - complete with corner pantry beside fridge (out of pic on right). 9 years ago the best I could do was order standard premade Starmark cabinet modules in 450/600/900 sizes, and modify into a U-shape.  Threw away the tops and had a granite top installed.  All up it cost me under 50,000 bt.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXKARG08sd_Aw6LGdQr5OLqOAesxvZUJRV5HMBn80rcu3dsZdyyVlGMOngrnAXMyLbGteEdJSm_qul39tsd7YT75fwDrAmNaUQZb87uNmOZ9eTms1LJufZ7D7QKXXGwyYIIntXSJ78lBdcVxd2giW58Aw=w1343-h1007-no?authuser=0

2nd house I lashed out for a full lacquered custom build to my design, as below:-

Photo taken before I installed a brushed aluminium tambour (roll-up) door on the appliance cupboard - corner pantry on left beside fridge (out of pic).

As you may know, rule of thumb with kitchen design is the imaginary  triangle between cooking > sink/prep > fridge.   All should be quite separate.  We also have an IKEA ss/bamboo-top prep bench in the centre which is my best innovation yet.  But you do need a big kitchen for that.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUXLWIwjQPmzLyfloZrFASep51nel3tY0IOyqRS1q0HouA2MIWmcyeizF1qJwwLFIgQ9VM6HLMx-zw0yaUAeRNhmbSpOt-1YkNkDWS_v4F3Mf70UJlZZmYLVeSvFIEHph8XwjbpCIk4CLp5VzGCx5bdEA=w1343-h1007-no?authuser=0

Hopefully that may inspire thoughts 😀

Wow very nice design on the 2nd house's kitchen. The overall color scheme matches quite well. I imagined it must cost quite a lot for this nice setup. 

Did you built your own houses here in Thailand or bought them? How about placement of the septic tank? Is septic tank even a thing here?

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35 minutes ago, Noble_Design said:

Did you built your own houses here in Thailand or bought them? How about placement of the septic tank? Is septic tank even a thing here?

I designed both and had a draftsman & engineer complete the final plans.  First house I had to supervise myself and took over completely just after roof on stage.  Long story short we ended up on the wrong side of a partnership split but we saved money and ended up with a finished house.  Other clients did not.

For this house we used a local farang builder and I undertook supervision on site which saved him time and any remedial costs.

Septic systems are common outside of the CBD, and for this house we needed 3.  Main PVC separation tank + concrete absorption tank for a total of 5 toilets.  

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On 12/20/2021 at 3:58 PM, KaptainRob said:

Hopefully that may inspire thoughts 

Love it! Is that a Mr. Ken ceiling fan?

The black pendant lights are great too.

But those standard Thai sinks are not for us. And we are finding it hard to find other options. Such is life.

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On 12/20/2021 at 2:13 PM, Noble_Design said:

So here is one of the house design that I have come up with

Ever consider no second floor? Stairs get tougher with age.

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18 minutes ago, GMoney2312 said:

Ever consider no second floor? Stairs get tougher with age.

Absolutely true. Two older blokes I know built their own houses. One has stairs and has got sick of them so much that he moved his 'Office/Den' downstairs - only goes upstairs when absolutely needed. Plus it gets very hot upstairs in the bedrooms.  The other guy wisely realised that would happen and built on a single level for that exact reason.  Whether I rent (probably) or buy (unlikely) another house in Thailand again - it will be a single story place.  

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32 minutes ago, GMoney2312 said:

Love it! Is that a Mr. Ken ceiling fan?

The black pendant lights are great too.

But those standard Thai sinks are not for us. And we are finding it hard to find other options. Such is life.

Yes, MrKen fan.  PVC and more directional so it can be used over the central work station (not in pic) without affecting the gas cooker.  Pendant lights from Boonthavorn.

What type of sink are you after?  Loads of options including acrylic - look nice but can be damaged easily.  For the outside kitchen I installed a BIG single bowl sink for washing big pots/wok/bbq grill etc.

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12 minutes ago, AussieBob said:

Absolutely true. Two older blokes I know built their own houses. One has stairs and has got sick of them so much that he moved his 'Office/Den' downstairs - only goes upstairs when absolutely needed. Plus it gets very hot upstairs in the bedrooms.  The other guy wisely realised that would happen and built on a single level for that exact reason.  Whether I rent (probably) or buy (unlikely) another house in Thailand again - it will be a single story place.  

1st house was 2-storey to suit the land and aspect but we went with single storey in the new one in expectation of staying here forever.  I designed it with a 1.5m lift off natural ground and we have a ramp for easy access from car to side entry so we seldom use steps up to the front door.

Everything is wheel-chair friendly incl bathrooms and although I don't expect to ever use one, it could be a selling point in the distant future.

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44 minutes ago, GMoney2312 said:

We are working with this, my design.

Kitchen right by the front door, which is rarely seen in Thailand.

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I guess you have the option of partially closing the kitchen later, if desired, with a wall between B2 & B3.

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My 2 must haves in any house we build in Thailand is the doors that slide open into the wall onto the outer deck

 

And a built-in outdoor grille and wok 

 

Anything else, I am pretty fine with a standard build 

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Lovely design. Perhaps eliminating the carport by converting it into a patio area might be nice with direct access to the house as mentioned by KR. I do think a downstairs toilet is necessary for convenience however. If you have the space/budget a separate garage/carport/storage area is nice. I've found that 2-car ports are really 11/2  car ports. If you decide to keep those dimensions make sure your vehicles are equipped with a large sunroof for easy entrance and egress. 😉

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4 minutes ago, Marc26 said:

My 2 must haves in any house we build in Thailand is the doors that slide open into the wall onto the outer deck

Cavity sliders are a bit difficult to fit into a solid masonry wall. 😉  Can get bifold doors which achieve the same "wide-open space" appearance ... and concertina-style also for even bigger openings.

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1 hour ago, KaptainRob said:

I guess you have the option of partially closing the kitchen later

The kitchen will have an island that can also seat 4. It will always be an open design.

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11 minutes ago, GMoney2312 said:

This is what we like- Big and Stainless steel.

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Boonthavorn stock similar > 

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Our outdoor/cabana sink is this model :-

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We reselected, changed from one similar to 'yours', as the custom concrete kitchen (by Boonthavorn) could not accept tap fittings in a rear flange, too deep front to back!

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13 hours ago, GMoney2312 said:

We are working with this, my design.

Kitchen right by the front door, which is rarely seen in Thailand.

Updated Nov 10.jpg

This is quite a big house you have there. And yes kinda rare to see kitchen at the front here. I tried to put the kitchen as far away as possible to avoid those stinging spicy chili smells or fried dried squid odors that my wife seems to like to cook so often.

 

13 hours ago, GMoney2312 said:

Ever consider no second floor? Stairs get tougher with age.

No, I need the second floor because I prefer to maximize the usage of the land area for planting trees and gardens etc. Also considering how hot Thailand can be in the summer I believe the second floor can be a good buffer or insulation against the heat. My current house is also a 2 storey and during the summer time the second floor will feel like an oven while the first floor is still OK.

So to me the second floor is strictly for sleeping so climbing stairs would be a once or twice a day affair which I think should be bearable. If I have no choice and is forced to build a single storey house I would have to build it with high ceiling (probably 4 meters+) and high roof with a lot of insulation and ventilators so to me it's better to just add a second floor for that same purpose. I know A/C can solve the heat issue but I am someone who is not used to too much A/C, it just dries my airways too much.

 

12 hours ago, El_Trauco said:

Lovely design. Perhaps eliminating the carport by converting it into a patio area might be nice with direct access to the house as mentioned by KR. I do think a downstairs toilet is necessary for convenience however. If you have the space/budget a separate garage/carport/storage area is nice. I've found that 2-car ports are really 11/2  car ports. If you decide to keep those dimensions make sure your vehicles are equipped with a large sunroof for easy entrance and egress. 😉

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That's a huge car porch you have there, yes I did design it to fit 2 cars but I think in the future (20-30 years from now) I'll most probably have 1 pickup for long distance use and a small electric car (think Nissan March size) for daily use so there should be enough space.

 

12 hours ago, KaptainRob said:

Cavity sliders are a bit difficult to fit into a solid masonry wall. 😉  Can get bifold doors which achieve the same "wide-open space" appearance ... and concertina-style also for even bigger openings.

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My current house has sliding glass doors and one of the problems I face is pests intrusion such as snakes and centipedes. Even a separate grille with mosquito nets didn't help as those critters somehow managed to find the tiniest spaces to slitter in. Happens especially a lot during summer when it's super hot outside and those pests are more aggressive in finding a cooler place to rest e.g. inside the house.

My current house is not even in any rural areas, it's near Bkk in a new gated and guarded community and I as well as my neighbors still occasionally encounter these pests. I shudder to think the creatures that I will meet when I move to rural area one day, that's why other than the front and rear doors there are absolutely no other sliding or folding doors, just windows all the way.

Some of the pests I managed to massacre in the past 1-2 years including a baby cobra that somehow managed to sneak pass the mosquito net grille:

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6 minutes ago, Noble_Design said:

My current house has sliding glass doors and one of the problems I face is pests intrusion such as snakes and centipedes. Even a separate grille with mosquito nets didn't help as those critters somehow managed to find the tiniest spaces to slitter in. Happens especially a lot during summer when it's super hot outside and those pests are more aggressive in finding a cooler place to rest e.g. inside the house.

Standard Thai aluminium windows and doors are hopeless at keeping anything out, including dust, noise, geckos and centipedes ... never seen a snake get under a slider before!!

Our house has double glazing to all south and west faces, and/or bedrooms.  The IP weather rating is high for all windows and doors, including sliders and nothing gets past them.  This is one of my preferred suppliers :- https://www.doorandwindow.asia/doors-and-windows.php but there are plenty of others, especially in Bangkok.

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