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11 minutes ago, GMoney2312 said:

So, what exactly makes a community that grows more diverse with a mix of more people from around the world NOT a good sign?

From a personal perspective if I wanted to live in a mixed community  then I would have chosen a more metropolitan area to live in. That was not my choice and the likelihood of other foreigners coming to  live in my village is remote currently, but each to his own.

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6 minutes ago, gummy said:

but each to his own.

My wife is from the place we live in now. So is her family. It was the best option.

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1 minute ago, GMoney2312 said:

My wife is from the place we live in now. So is her family. It was the best option.

Yes I appreciate that from your posts previously and obviously that is the best place for you. When you mentioned the land prices were high due to the numbers of foreigners coming to your area it was a bit tongue in cheek when I said that spoils it. No offence meant.

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My father in law and brother in law are expert builders and concrete specialists.

There are constructing a large commercial building as we speak.

So family members are ok!

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5 hours ago, gummy said:

From a personal perspective if I wanted to live in a mixed community  then I would have chosen a more metropolitan area to live in. That was not my choice and the likelihood of other foreigners coming to  live in my village is remote currently, but each to his own.

Plenty of foreigners in my wife's village but it is so spread out, you wouldn't ever have to mix with them if you didn't want to

And may end up having a good one around...........

 

So can't see a downside unless they moving in with you!  5555

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12 hours ago, gummy said:

No offence meant.

All good man, plus I have a thick skin. My only "safe space" is any place that has AC!🤣

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18 hours ago, gummy said:

Requirement for piling is dependant upon the soil reports and reputable builders working with an architect and/or engineer should get one done anyway. Going to a local builder , a decent one , then piling requirements can be determined by prior builds if in a nearby location.  Where I live we have an extremely high GBP so no piling is ever needed yet almost every house in Bangkok would need to be given the soil conditions as an example. 

For mine there are a lot of footings like 36. Then the attach to Teak poles.  In the kitchen area and bathroom, and by the garage area the poles are cement. 

Building a house here is interesting in that the polls go in first then the roof and work down. The ceiling upstairs is actually supported by the roof. 

Although many Teak homes might be single wall construction ours is double walled throughout. 

The craftsmanship is great and very interesting to watch. 

 

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On 10/4/2021 at 12:21 AM, gummy said:

Don't intend to question but that size of land for the price you paid seems exceptionally high. Of course the value of anything is what ever you choose to pay for it, but at round 240.000 THB per rai that is quite high for the  area.

I don't know.....I think that's about right. Two decades of sky-high land prices is starting to catch up - especially in rural type provinces. 

 

Even today, common paddy land [zoned for aggie only] can run B300,000 per rai. Location dependent, of course. Commercial property tends to be downgraded, for whatever reasons. 

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3 minutes ago, Rain said:

I don't know.....I think that's about right. Two decades of sky-high land prices is starting to catch up - especially in rural type provinces. 

Even today, common paddy land [zoned for aggie only] can run B300,000 per rai. Location dependent, of course. Commercial property tends to be downgraded, for whatever reasons. 

Not around where I live it doesn't 100,000 THB/Rai tops 

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58 minutes ago, gummy said:

Not around where I live it doesn't 100,000 THB/Rai tops 

Udon must have the easier to please land speculation mafias.

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50 minutes ago, gummy said:

Not around where I live it doesn't 100,000 THB/Rai tops 

For paddy fields go for 3-400,000 per rai in the north. Land not suitable for agriculture might be less. Land on major roads goes for 1m up. 

It's all about location and access to other things you want. Is their city water, electricity, etc? Is there a view?

Property 10 km from anything might be pretty cheap. 

My wife has a couple of patches of farmland. One is 8 rai on a major road and we were offered 1m/rai. But we don't need to sale so it just serves as an investment. The other is land owned by her family for numerous generations (about 12-15 rai with a pond) . I don't think she will ever sell it, although people ask. She let's a niece and nephew farm it. Cost is more emotional than anything else.

 

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42 minutes ago, LoongFred said:

For paddy fields go for 3-400,000 per rai in the north. Land not suitable for agriculture might be less. Land on major roads goes for 1m up. 

It's all about location and access to other things you want. Is their city water, electricity, etc? Is there a view?

Property 10 km from anything might be pretty cheap. 

My wife has a couple of patches of farmland. One is 8 rai on a major road and we were offered 1m/rai. But we don't need to sale so it just serves as an investment. The other is land owned by her family for numerous generations (about 12-15 rai with a pond) . I don't think she will ever sell it, although people ask. She let's a niece and nephew farm it. Cost is more emotional than anything else.

Yeah. My understanding about current land value up north is that it's skyrocketed in the last few years - CM, Chiang Rai, Nan, Loei. Average asking for aggie land goes for about what you've quoted above. Forested property is double that per rai. 

Around Sukhothai, Plok and Phichit [have properties in Suk/Phichit] .......land is at a premium. Everyday land. Been of this manner for more than a decade. 

I lived in Surin for about 12-13 years [1997-2010] and very common asking price for common paddy land or potential commercial/retail land to go as much as B250,000 - B350,000 per rai. And that was a while ago. 

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1 hour ago, Rain said:

Yeah. My understanding about current land value up north is that it's skyrocketed in the last few years - CM, Chiang Rai, Nan, Loei. Average asking for aggie land goes for about what you've quoted above. Forested property is double that per rai. 

Around Sukhothai, Plok and Phichit [have properties in Suk/Phichit] .......land is at a premium. Everyday land. Been of this manner for more than a decade. 

I lived in Surin for about 12-13 years [1997-2010] and very common asking price for common paddy land or potential commercial/retail land to go as much as B250,000 - B350,000 per rai. And that was a while ago. 

Sounds about right. Our plot with 8 rain is close to the Yom river, so we have no problems with water even in the dry season. My wife’s family plot fronts an irrigation ditch plus we have a deep pond we can use. Three years ago we dug out the pond to about 12 ft. and hit the water table, so it a reliable water source. 

I don’t know about house but they don’t seem to sell, esp if they are western style. I think some people overbuild for the area.

1 hour ago, Rain said:

Yeah. My understanding about current land value up north is that it's skyrocketed in the last few years - CM, Chiang Rai, Nan, Loei. Average asking for aggie land goes for about what you've quoted above. Forested property is double that per rai. 

Around Sukhothai, Plok and Phichit [have properties in Suk/Phichit] .......land is at a premium. Everyday land. Been of this manner for more than a decade. 

I lived in Surin for about 12-13 years [1997-2010] and very common asking price for common paddy land or potential commercial/retail land to go as much as B250,000 - B350,000 per rai. And that was a while ago. 

 

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2 hours ago, LoongFred said:

For paddy fields go for 3-400,000 per rai in the north. Land not suitable for agriculture might be less. Land on major roads goes for 1m up. 

It's all about location and access to other things you want. Is their city water, electricity, etc? Is there a view?

Property 10 km from anything might be pretty cheap. 

My wife has a couple of patches of farmland. One is 8 rai on a major road and we were offered 1m/rai. But we don't need to sale so it just serves as an investment. The other is land owned by her family for numerous generations (about 12-15 rai with a pond) . I don't think she will ever sell it, although people ask. She let's a niece and nephew farm it. Cost is more emotional than anything else.

 

Land in my wife's village in SuphaBuri is in the 300-400k range

They have 3 harvests per year

 

And the hard part, is people will not sell just 2-3 rai...........they will only sell in bigger plots

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1 minute ago, Marc26 said:

Land in my wife's village in SuphaBuri is in the 300-400k range

They have 3 harvests per year

 

And the hard part, is people will not sell just 2-3 rai...........they will only sell in bigger plots

There is also an undercurrent of wealth in Suphan. 

Decades of specialized hybrid rices have enriched an already very lush province. 

Shouldn't surprised that land prices are as such. 

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On 10/4/2021 at 6:40 PM, gummy said:

From a personal perspective if I wanted to live in a mixed community  then I would have chosen a more metropolitan area to live in. That was not my choice and the likelihood of other foreigners coming to  live in my village is remote currently, but each to his own.

You sure about that was the reason you moved to a remote village in Issan? Because it has no foreigners?

You sure spend a lot of time on this forum conversing with people you claim to want to avoid.

Or did you really move there because that is where your wife or girlfriend is from and she told you to?

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12 hours ago, Marc26 said:

Land in my wife's village in SuphaBuri is in the 300-400k range

They have 3 harvests per year

 

And the hard part, is people will not sell just 2-3 rai...........they will only sell in bigger plots

Sounds right. In central and the north Thailand there is enough water to double triple crop. This year there is too much water in a lot of places, but we're safe and dry.

The availability of water probably influence land prices a lot. The NE lacks the water infrastructure in many areas driving land prices down.

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I noticed as I have traveled around Thailand on my motorcycle that I began to feel very weak as I got further away from a Villa Market. 

anyway, what about security?  i am sure you have family members around but what if you lock the place up and all go for a road trip? many Farang treasures like notebook computers and flat screens may be too much for the locals to resist. 

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30 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

I noticed as I have traveled around Thailand on my motorcycle that I began to feel very weak as I got further away from a Villa Market. 

anyway, what about security?  i am sure you have family members around but what if you lock the place up and all go for a road trip? many Farang treasures like notebook computers and flat screens may be too much for the locals to resist. 

I don't think there is many situations where there are no other family houses around

 

The way my wife's villages work(Mom and Dad's) is each family had sort of their own areas where there are 4/5 houses with different family members living nearby 

 

I honestly don't know one instance where someone has a house without other family houses nearby 

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23 minutes ago, gummy said:

Well how would you unless you knew everybody in every village and town ? Your Generalisation may be assumed to be the case but I have no doubt that someone somewhere will be the odd one out.

I guess that's why I said "I"

Meaning me, my  personal experience in 2 villages which I stated

 

It's weird that the guy that attacks everyone with "you dont understand " and assumes every situation is the one he is in,  is now taking exception to someone expressing their personal experience 

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