News Forum - Phuket sees third consecutive day over 100 Covid-19 infections

[Thaiger]

For the third day in a row, new Covid-19 infections in Phuket had topped 100 people as 126 new local infections were identified in the province yesterday. 2 new infections were found in Phuket Sandbox travellers as well. There were no new deaths reported yesterday, and the total remains at 17 fatalities from Covid-19’s third wave. The rolling weekly total over the last 7 days now stands at 587 Covid-19 infections. Earlier in the week daily infections stood at around 50, but today saw 126 new infections, yesterday had 101 new cases, and a record 129 new infections were uncovered […]

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[AlexPTY]

no worries, they already amended previous sandbox shutdown infections numbers, so it's a SNAFU from now on

[shanghailoz]

Fairly obvious by now that they're not going to close the sandbox for infection rates (unless it becomes too serious/ endemic and the international community stops flights in).

Phuket is fairly quiet without all the tourists, and a generally nice place to be at the moment.

[ThailandRyan]

Numbers are from PCR tests only. The ATK rapid tests that are positive are only enough to put one into self/home isolation and are not counted as a CV case for statistical purposes.  I thought the goal of the Sandbox was for safety of all.....sad to see the goal posts moved again and again.  The island is a powder keg at this point. Of course that's my view alone....

[KaptainRob]

55 minutes ago, shanghailoz said:

Phuket is fairly quiet without all the tourists, and a generally nice place to be at the moment.

Fairly quiet?  I've seen the movie, it's DEAD. 

Though I do agree, a nice place to be if you're not a drinker or seeking female company and night-time entertainment.  The beaches are clean and seawater is clear. 

I feel sorry for the next wave of Euro arrivals, especially if Russians, if NO alcohol is served even at resorts.  Wait for the backlash from that!

[AdvocatusDiaboli]

2 minutes ago, KaptainRob said:

I feel sorry for the next wave of Euro arrivals, especially if Russians, if NO alcohol is served even at resorts.  Wait for the backlash from that!

7/11 Vodka in a water bottle? - Just hope the restaurants don’t charge corkage.

[Michael0510]

There are two important facts which are not found in the article.

1. Thailand counts high risk cases with negative PCR test results as “infected”. High risk case means, that you were close to someone who was tested positive, but you are not tested positive. On August 19 there were officially 129 local infections. Actually 53 of these 129 were tested positive and 76 were tested negative by PCR tests. So no, there are definitely not three consecutive days with more than 100 infections per day. Btw: Other countries don’t count high risk cases as infections. 

2. There were and there are mass screenings in Phuket with more than 12,000 tests this month. Mass screening are a good way to fight the pandemic. But at the same time they bring the official numbers of infections up, even if there are not more infections. You can’t compare numbers of days with mass screenings with days without them.

So in fact the numbers of infections in Phuket are quite low. For sure they are not high enough to justify strict measures like the ban of alcohol. The reason to ban alcohol has nothing to do with the pandemic.

[Jackson]

3 hours ago, AlexPTY said:

no worries, they already amended previous sandbox shutdown infections numbers, so it's a SNAFU from now on

Yep, the 90 per week figure was blown out of the water weeks ago.

[Rain]

So.....how's that safe and secure Sandbox Project working out for ya?

[AdvocatusDiaboli]

1 hour ago, Michael0510 said:

Thailand counts high risk cases with negative PCR test results as “infected”.

So, if that’s the case, why do we only see low numbers of infected sandbox tourists being reported? When the very first one was found was there not around 13 off the same flight that were dreamed high risk, but still only reported as one infection case. Those days we only see two, surely there are lots of high risk cases off the same flights? 
 

Using this as an example, Thailand doesn’t count high risk cases.

[Dr.Sivada]

I have a question: 

Would it even be safe to travel to Phuket, not considering the virus risk? The entire island has been starved of any tourists for so long, and I can only imagine the money loving locals are just waiting for foreign preys to arrive and be devoured. Has robbery and crime rate climbed lately? Just curious. I know theft is extremely common. 

[ThailandRyan]

53 minutes ago, AdvocatusDiaboli said:

So, if that’s the case, why do we only see low numbers of infected sandbox tourists being reported? When the very first one was found was there not around 13 off the same flight that were dreamed high risk, but still only reported as one infection case. Those days we only see two, surely there are lots of high risk cases off the same flights? 
 

Using this as an example, Thailand doesn’t count high risk cases.

You are exactly correct.  Unless it is an individual with a positive PCR test, they are not counted as a Covid case.  So no matter what type of isolation is done or if the individual is made to quarantine they are not counted as a case, the same with the rapid test ATK kits used.  A positive on a rapid test is not counted as a Case either.

Edited August 22, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[Yinn]

30 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

You are exactly correct.  Unless it is an individual with a positive PCR test, they are not counted as a Covid case.  So no matter what type of isolation is done or if the individual is made to quarantine they are not counted as a case, the same with the rapid test ATK kits used.  A positive on a rapid test is not counted as a Case either.

You are exactly wrong.

if have a positive rapid test, then must have the blood test. Everyone. Sure. 
And then get result of blood test next day.
 

[AdvocatusDiaboli]

But if you want the numbers of the confirmed cases ….
July - 493.

August - 1186. (still 9 days to go)

‘Those are the tested confirmed cases. What is more scary is that of the 50 ICU beds available in Phuket, 24 are currently in use. 
 

[HolyCowCm]

The facts are we will never know the real facts, so we can just do our own math and think double it or triple or? Could not think it will be lower than double their number tossed out to see. 

[riclag]

3 hours ago, KaptainRob said:

Fairly quiet?  I've seen the movie, it's DEAD. 

Though I do agree, a nice place to be if you're not a drinker or seeking female company and night-time entertainment.  The beaches are clean and seawater is clear. 

I feel sorry for the next wave of Euro arrivals, especially if Russians, if NO alcohol is served even at resorts.  Wait for the backlash from that!

How  about the ones that go to  Petri Phuket only to find themselves in Quarantine and spending a considerable amount of their vacation time in a room because somebody they  had contact with during  transit, tested positive!

I betcha many travelers never thought to exercise due diligence  by researching the possibilities of this 

 

[JamesE]

3 hours ago, riclag said:

How  about the ones that go to  Petri Phuket only to find themselves in Quarantine and spending a considerable amount of their vacation time in a room because somebody they  had contact with during  transit, tested positive!

I betcha many travelers never thought to exercise due diligence  by researching the possibilities of this 

I've thought about this as I'm planning on doing the sandbox in October. However, Other than the initial Gang of Twelve and the European woman I've been unable to find additional horror stories of mass incarceration due to proximity. Nothing, not in the news, not on Reddit, not screaming on YouTube. You'd think there would be at least one.

During July there were 33 sandboxers who tested positive, but, other than the initial batch, I've been able to find no indications that people who were near them on the plane or in a tour group were forced into AQ.

[chouse]

1 hour ago, JamesE said:

I've thought about this as I'm planning on doing the sandbox in October. However, Other than the initial Gang of Twelve and the European woman I've been unable to find additional horror stories of mass incarceration due to proximity. Nothing, not in the news, not on Reddit, not screaming on YouTube. You'd think there would be at least one.

During July there were 33 sandboxers who tested positive, but, other than the initial batch, I've been able to find no indications that people who were near them on the plane or in a tour group were forced into AQ.

I agree, finding the numbers for the positive cases or any numbers on actual sandboxers is difficult 

[PapayaBokBok]

12 hours ago, KaptainRob said:

especially if Russians, if NO alcohol is served even at resorts.  Wait for the backlash from that!

 

[ThailandRyan]

9 hours ago, Yinn said:

You are exactly wrong.

if have a positive rapid test, then must have the blood test. Everyone. Sure. 
And then get result of blood test next day.
 

Not true.  Unless they are showing symptoms where they will need treatment in a facility or want to go to a facility. such as a field hospital, Hospitel, or even the hospital, they are given the green Falai Jones pills and Favipiravir and sent home.  Try again @Yinn, as usual your not close to what is actually happening.  Many friends here in BKK including the GF's family have tested positive on the ATK tests and been sent home to isolate with instructions to call a number they are given should they need assistance if things worsen.  They are then sent for another test, this time a PCR test, and then and only then are they placed as a case in the totals and then moved to a facility when they have an opening.  I have first hand experience with this as the GF's daughter started this way after testing positive on an ATK test,  after a week she started to feel ill, and was showing symptoms, 7 years old.  She was then retested by a PCR test, and 3 days later was picked up at home by an ambulance and taken to a pediatric hospital where she stayed for over 2 weeks, and on supplemental oxygen.  She was then sent home again when she was off of oxygen, given more green Charia (Falai Jones), and more Favipiravir and told to isolate for 14 more days.  She was just retested last week and found negative and even was given a chest X-ray again to ensure no residual lung issues as she was still coughing.  

P.S.

Unless you are paying VIP prices or are already in the hospital a regular PCR blood test is taking between 48 and 72 hours to return with the results, at least here in BKK,  I have proof of that as well, as my GF and I have been now tested twice Via PCR testing in the past month as it was required before either of us could see our specialist doctors here in BKK.  This was due to prior patients of those doctors being positive and the doctors having to quarantine themselves for 2 weeks.

 

Do some research @Yinn

Edited August 23, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[Yinn]

30+ people I know/know about all test positive rapid test.
Then all have blood test for confirm. All result come next day. 

Is your girlfriend and her kids Thai citizen?
I know is different way for Burmese people. They not get blood test if positive rapid, they must stay isolation 14 days then rapid test again.

The problem is many foreigner can not read Thai. Illiterate. So they can not find all the information/understand news etc. Confused. Is problem for medical staff, but we try help them.

 

[Yinn]

10 hours ago, HolyCowCm said:

The facts are we will never know the real facts, so we can just do our own math and think double it or triple or? Could not think it will be lower than double their number tossed out to see. 

I think x8. 
 
I have friends who think they have covid, but just stay home not get test. If not seriously, is waiste the time and money for test and rule. 

[Mike]

6 hours ago, JamesE said:

I've thought about this as I'm planning on doing the sandbox in October. However, Other than the initial Gang of Twelve and the European woman I've been unable to find additional horror stories of mass incarceration due to proximity. Nothing, not in the news, not on Reddit, not screaming on YouTube. You'd think there would be at least one.

During July there were 33 sandboxers who tested positive, but, other than the initial batch, I've been able to find no indications that people who were near them on the plane or in a tour group were forced into AQ.

Last week, I saw a guy post on FB (I believe he was French) who tested positive and had to quarantine.  I don’t remember the date of the original post, but it did seem more recent. 

[JamesE]

39 minutes ago, Mike said:

Last week, I saw a guy post on FB (I believe he was French) who tested positive and had to quarantine.  I don’t remember the date of the original post, but it did seem more recent. 

Yeah, the positives do, but since the initial batch of 13 I haven't seen any associated people get stuck in quarantine.

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, Yinn said:

30+ people I know/know about all test positive rapid test.
Then all have blood test for confirm. All result come next day. 

Is your girlfriend and her kids Thai citizen?
I know is different way for Burmese people. They not get blood test if positive rapid, they must stay isolation 14 days then rapid test again.

The problem is many foreigner can not read Thai. Illiterate. So they can not find all the information/understand news etc. Confused. Is problem for medical staff, but we try help them.

@Yinn, My girlfriend is from Myanmar, and we both can read and write Thai.  Myanmar Nationals are not all factory workers, and those that are have been locked into the factories or the construction camps.  My GF is/was a Salon owner and employed 3 Thai ladies.  I myself have also lived in Thailand for a long time, was married to a Thai lady, and have a Thai/American born daughter who is now 14.  Tired of your games, and non-truths.  My GF's daughter is a Thai citizen, born to a Thai father.  His entire Thai family had to isolate at home after testing positive on a ATK test kit.  His wife was hospitalized after starting to feel ill and needing more treatment, then my GF's daughter was taken to the hospital.  Tired of your BS and false information. I have many friends who work in the healthcare industry here in Thailand as well that are Thai.  Until I recently retired, I worked with the Insurance industry doing claims investigations.  Take your BS elsewhere.