News Forum - Russian Ambassador meets with Phuket officials, discusses establishing a sister city

[oldschooler]

1 hour ago, Insurgent said:

You are either a fool or a member of the Putin propaganda machine or both….any proof of your baseless comments? 

Yes. All Strong Civilized Free Nations are clearly taking anti- Putin actions, Major Unfree Countries are pro- Putin with neutral / insignificant states irrelevant.

[Stonker]

16 hours ago, JamesR said:

No airspace anywhere is blocked, Boris Johnson was asked to block the airspace over the Ukraine and he said no as it would mean shooting Russian planes down causing an escallation in the conflict. 

Airports can block planes from landing at their airports but no one is banning the passage of aircraft over its airspace due to the above. 

 

11 hours ago, Fundok said:

I am afraid you know little about air traffic. Planes cannot Just take off and fly to whereever. Air traffic control ist in place, even fees need to be paid for using the countries air space. And ultimately the air force can send fighter planes to force any commercial plane to land and stop the intrusion. Shooting down the plane would be the ultimate consequence, but do you really think that the captain of an airplane with passengers will disobey the orders of a fighter plane and risk their lives?

No commercial airline will put its planes and passengers at risk and will not fly in prohibited air space.

As with Ukraine, Russia as agressor has violated not only the Ukrainian air space but also its territorial integrity. Others than with NATO countries and Russia, Ukraine does not have a functioning air force anymore to protect its air space. Entering blocked air space will inevitably lead to swift action by the respective air force. In this, NATO countries and Russia will react pretty much the same.

The invasion plans were not public, so how could they possibly have prepared? If you are an oligarch and own a prime piece of real estate you can't sell this on short term. Most importantly, Russia was caught by surprise given the swiftness and severity of the sanctions.

Just to try to put an end to this so that we can return to the topic in hand which some here might like to discuss, the two of you are clearly talking about two completely different issues.

@JamesR is talking primarily about making the airspace over Ukraine a no-fly zone, which neither NATO nor anyone else has any interest in attempting to do:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2022/03/01/no-fly-zone-nato-ukraine/6983545001/

@Fundok is talking primarily about banning Russian planes from overflying other countries' airspace:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60539303

Two totally different issues.  Can we please move on?

11 hours ago, Fundok said:

Others than with NATO countries and Russia, Ukraine does not have a functioning air force anymore to protect its air space.

Sorry, I don't want to go further off topic but this is completely incorrect:

https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/mysterious-case-missing-russian-air-force

https://www.aerosociety.com/news/air-war-over-ukraine-the-first-days/

Can we please move on, instead of making statements that are not just off topic but totally incorrect?

 

[Faz]

This topic has completely come of the rails.