News Forum - Stabbing attack in Kanchanaburi leaves 1 British man dead, 1 injured

[ninja]

14 hours ago, Vince said:

And it's possible they were rude or even provoked the fellow who knifed them in some way - it takes two to tango as they say in Brighton. 

I think a very common "rudeness"  used by English and others goes something like ...." hayyy, go f### yerself" .      That does seem to lead to violence in most countries

i could be wrong.  Maybe they said.....  " oh, so sorry mate.  I promise it won't happen again" 

which one you think ?

[Vince]

1 minute ago, ninja said:

I think a very common "rudeness"  used by English and others goes something like ...." hayyy, go f### yerself" .      That does seem to lead to violence in most countries

i could be wrong.  Maybe they said.....  " oh, so sorry mate.  I promise it won't happen again" 

which one you think ?

Well I wouldn't be surprised if it was less than polite. But the outcome was definitely tragic. 

Reminds me of the story of the man who got punched after honking his motorbike to tell his wife he was home. 

 

 

 

 

[Transam]

53 minutes ago, ninja said:

I think a very common "rudeness"  used by English and others goes something like ...." hayyy, go f### yerself" .      That does seem to lead to violence in most countries

i could be wrong.  Maybe they said.....  " oh, so sorry mate.  I promise it won't happen again" 

which one you think ?

No, we say........."Chum, go ...... yourself"....

Hayyy is what horses eat.....

[Marble-eye]

2 minutes ago, whitesnake said:

Yeah, but these are people with NOTHING... that deserve "something!" Something their own CONTROL FREAK Leaders (Like PRAYTWAT... here in Thailand!) refuse to give them..... In most caring societies the word is "HOPE!" Maybe that was why you were sent to 5 "different theatres of operations".... to give those people hope!

It must be terrible living in war-torn France, who wouldn't want to flee that country and I'm sure that it has nothing to do with free hotels (they refuse to use our army barracks) free money, free taxi service, free phones and last but not least free food, come to think of it, they would be foolish not to come.

[Transam]

6 minutes ago, whitesnake said:

Yeah, but these are people with NOTHING... that deserve "something!" Something their own CONTROL FREAK Leaders (Like PRAYTWAT... here in Thailand!) refuse to give them..... In most caring societies the word is "HOPE!" Maybe that was why you were sent to 5 "different theatres of operations".... to give those people hope!

Where's the money coming from....?

[Smithydog]

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[Lyp14 [ctxa]]

7 hours ago, RampantRabbit said:

yet you  say  other  Thais  arent like this............. yet here they are beating the guy......just  like that.

I don’t go around decapitating people with a machete. But if I see someone doing so, I would join others trying to stop him  
 

Maybe you’d just chicken out and let the fella continue his rampage.

[Fester]

1 hour ago, Transam said:

You don't need to use capital letters, we can read the small ones......

Sorry to hear you have been ripped off by your locals.....

He certainly sounds unhappy here.

[Transam]

6 minutes ago, Fester said:

He certainly sounds unhappy here.

Well, it does read like he's been ripped off by someone or fined for not wearing a mask in public..........

[OkOk]

22 hours ago, Thaiger said:

Police are looking for a suspect in an attack and stabbing of 2 British men in Kanchanaburi that killed one and seriously injured the other. The attack took place early this morning at 3:55 am in front of a house in the Muang district of the western province of Thailand. Police, tourist police, and forensic officers led by the chief to the Muang Police Station raced to the crime scene. According to police, the two British men were playing loud music on a radio in front of their house as they sat at a table drinking beers. They were surprised […]

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[HolyCowCm]

39 minutes ago, ctxa said:

I don’t go around decapitating people with a machete. But if I see someone doing so, I would join others trying to stop him  
 

Maybe you’d just chicken out and let the fella continue his rampage.

If in a situation of seeing something like that going on and in a position, I might be inclined to jump in and stop it, but not if I don't like the whom is in the altercation and if the danger to me far out-weighed jumping in. Not going to risk getting hurt for selfish people but I am no chicken by far. For example for where I am, it would just depend on the who and the what and for most unless it will directly drift to my place or not.

In this situation it was probably the repeated straw that broke the camels back as the foreingers were supposedly in a rented house out in the front making noise till early morning and the kid was across the street from them. From a picture the kid doesn't look like anything one would be scared of. Makes one or me think it was far more than just a one time thing by these guys.

For where I am there is a foreinger who will every few months do the same thing with having his foreigner friends over going way into the 2am+. Same scenario as in front of the tiny home and noisy, but many many many houses away from me and so plainly the noise doesn't over power and faze me or my family as is block muffled. This foreing guy is wrong thinking he is privleged, but again, if not directly disturbing me and my family, it is then up to the Thai to deal with his noise who are near him. Funny but I must say he now is the number one for taking it too far being outside after any realistic time. As have heard he is a Brit.

[Marble-eye]

 

Now I'm not here to defend the killing of a selfish person that doesn't give two hoots whether his neighbours can sleep or not, but what if their musical soiree was a common occurrence, most of us would get a little peeved to say the least, would that be fair to say?

But playing music at 0350hrs is more than annoying, it is torture and some people who have maybe gone a few nights listening to something like AC/DCs 'You Shook me all Night Long' will almost not likely be in control of their actions, I'm guessing that if they had played Faron Youngs 'it's 4 in the morning' they may well have gotten away with it.

But let's not forget that militaries around the world use this as a means to drive their enemies into insanity, the Americans used it on Noriega when he was holed up.

But as I said I am not here to defend the killing of another human, it was an over reaction without a doubt, but sleep deprivation can make most of us not function as we might normally do.

 

[RampantRabbit]

52 minutes ago, ctxa said:

I don’t go around decapitating people with a machete. But if I see someone doing so, I would join others trying to stop him  
 

Maybe you’d just chicken out and let the fella continue his rampage.

Erm first you say not to bash  all  thais as  being violent I  , but then say the villagers then beat the guy when they found out, ie later.......... ironically proving they are many  violent Thais as they then brutally  attacked him, nowt to do with standing back......or waiting for any Police etc etc

 

 

However, unlike they are doing in a certain other Thai forum, we don’t need to bash the whole Thai people for this brutal attack. 
 

It also makes me happy that other Thai villagers attacked him upon finding out it had been him. Hope he rots in jail and gets to regret this.

 

[RampantRabbit]

21 minutes ago, HolyCowCm said:

rom a picture the kid doesn't look like anything one would be scared of.

When you  have a  machete thats enough, you dont have to be 200pounds and rippling with muscles

[ninja]

57 minutes ago, ctxa said:

I don’t go around decapitating people with a machete. But if I see someone doing so, I would join others trying to stop him  
 

Maybe you’d just chicken out and let the fella continue his rampage.

Size matters .......    
 

 

[Lyp14 [ctxa]]

23 minutes ago, RampantRabbit said:

Erm first you say not to bash  all  thais as  being violent

You’re putting words in my mouth that I never said. 
 

In a certain other forum, they are accusing all Thais of having temper issues, of hating foreigners, of treating foreigners like dogs, etc etc… 

 

A mob attacking a murderer is normal. I once saw a mob brutally attack a fella who had sucker punched his wife/gf in public back in my home country… what’s the difference?

[steve860]

47 minutes ago, RampantRabbit said:

Erm first you say not to bash  all  thais as  being violent I  , but then say the villagers then beat the guy when they found out, ie later.......... ironically proving they are many  violent Thais as they then brutally  attacked him, nowt to do with standing back......or waiting for any Police etc etc

However, unlike they are doing in a certain other Thai forum, we don’t need to bash the whole Thai people for this brutal attack. 
 

It also makes me happy that other Thai villagers attacked him upon finding out it had been him. Hope he rots in jail and gets to regret this.

From the look of him on the arrest picture didn't seem be brutally beaten IMO. 

[longwood50]

15 hours ago, Raugh said:

Sounds a little like the OJ defence.

That was the OJ defense. 

[steve860]

48 minutes ago, RampantRabbit said:

When you  have a  machete thats enough, you dont have to be 200pounds and rippling with muscles

Charlie (holycow) Bronson would take him on!

[HolyCowCm]

4 minutes ago, steve860 said:

Charlie (holycow) Bronson would take him on!

Actually that is correct so maybe yes and true. Just depends on the circumstance and the one rule is never let your guard down and apparently they did. But also I would never be so rude like that and party outside my house making selfish noise, and even at that till almost 4am. Never gonna happen. 

[cherryripe64]

I do hope that the RTP officer taking the phone shot gets reprimanded - fined for the dangerous situation he is/could be putting those around him in ....

NO MASK .. Naughty

[JMJM]

>The attack took place early this morning at 3:55 am

>the two British men were playing loud music 

I'm not saying what the Thai guy did was right.  I'm just saying, I understand.  

Edited January 23 by JMJM

[RampantRabbit]

4 hours ago, ctxa said:

You’re putting words in my mouth that I never said. 
 

In a certain other forum, they are accusing all Thais of having temper issues, of hating foreigners, of treating foreigners like dogs, etc etc… 

A mob attacking a murderer is normal. I once saw a mob brutally attack a fella who had sucker punched his wife/gf in public back in my home country… what’s the difference?

So when you say "we  dont need  to bash  all  thai people for this  brutal  attack" .  followed  by You were  happy they attacked  him ie  the  villagers you dont see  any relevance to what you said? Cuz  what I see  is the  opposite, if   many of  the  villagers  attacked him it  kind  of proves  the point that the people on whatever forum saying many Thais do this are  correct as the  villagers  have just repeated the violence en masse.

A "mob  attacking anything"  is  not  normal. normal is  letting the law enforcement deal with it otherwise this vigilantism runs  amok.

[Donald]

On 1/22/2022 at 1:24 PM, HolyCowCm said:

Sorry to say, but if these 2 twats were playing loud music outside in front of their place with other homes around, and if these 2 twats repeatedly did this act of noise invasion, then the guy being looney or not if had told them to stop before was driven to a partial insanity. Loud music and how the sound carries and magnifies here in Thailand would make any sane person bonkers. And WTF of the time being 3:55am? I really have no sympathy if it is that clear cut straight forward.

So the death penalty for playing loud music. I think the real twat around here is you.

[Lyp14 [ctxa]]

48 minutes ago, RampantRabbit said:

So when you say "we  dont need  to bash  all  thai people for this  brutal  attack" .  followed  by You were  happy they attacked  him ie  the  villagers you dont see  any relevance to what you said? Cuz  what I see  is the  opposite, if   many of  the  villagers  attacked him it  kind  of proves  the point that the people on whatever forum saying many Thais do this are  correct as the  villagers  have just repeated the violence en masse.

A "mob  attacking anything"  is  not  normal. normal is  letting the law enforcement deal with it otherwise this vigilantism runs  amok.

That is utter BS. 

As the article mentions Law Enforcement took 50 minutes to arrive on scene after the murder took place. 

So what you are suggesting, is to let a man scythe in hand who just killed one and severely injured another roam free in the streets for 50 minutes that law enforcement takes to arrive? What if he catches someone else distracted? 3 victims now? 

Citizen's arrest are a thing, and it was the responsibility of the villagers to make sure that guy harmed nobody else until he got arrested. Obviously you can't kindly and politely ask that fella to surrender, cuz you may get decapitated also! So the only option was for a bunch of villagers to gang up on him remove the scythe and wait for law enforcement. If he got injured while getting ganged up, well he deserved it! 

 

The same would have happened everywhere else.