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Police in Pattaya arrested a Russian man and woman for allegedly creating fake bank documents for retirement visas and selling the fraudulent paperwork to other foreigners. The suspects allegedly sold the fake documents to foreigners who did not have enough money in their bank account required under Thai law for a retirement visa, police say, according to Pattaya News.

Retirement visa applicants must have 800,000 baht in their bank account for at least 2 months before applying, or they must have a monthly income of 65,000 baht. The suspects, 59 year old Irina Prokasheva and 63 year old Alexey Luptov, allegedly sold the fake bank statements for around 2,000 baht to those who did not meet the financial requirements for the visa.

Police say Irina and Alexey were selling the fake documents to other Russian nationals through the social media platform VK. They obtained the documents from someone in Russia, according to police.

Officers from the Combating Transnational Criminals and the Illegal Immigrant Centre teamed up with Pattaya City Police for the arrest. They seized Thai banknotes, copies of passports and fake certificates from a bank in Russia, according to Pattaya News.

Irina and Alexey were arrested on charges of working without a work permit, producing fake documents and operating a business without a license. They face deportation after the legal proceedings.

SOURCE: Pattaya News

 

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    Roger Bruce

    Monday, March 22, 2021 at 7:27 pm

    Thailand is the only country in the world that has this ridiculous amount of money required to live in Thailand
    800.000 baht insane
    65.000 incomer a month also insane ( average Thai make only 10,000 baht a month )
    They do not think cos retirees will spend money to live in Thailand for many years this will far outway these silly upfront costs
    Thailand Gov is cutting their own throats here total bulls…t
    Good Luck Thailand

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    James R

    Monday, March 22, 2021 at 9:56 pm

    Roger

    The amount should be higher than 800,000 as there are too many riffraff farangs in Thailand already giving the rest of us a bad name.

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    Robert Elliot

    Monday, March 22, 2021 at 10:19 pm

    I have to agree with this policy. Thailand doesnt need retired people with little or no money. 800,000 Baht as a safety net seems reasonable my only concern is if they keep raising this amount.

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    Tom

    Monday, March 22, 2021 at 10:37 pm

    Concerning the amounts that are required to retire in Thailand, I do think they are too high. My family and also a neighbor family nearby live on about 30,000 baht a month and I support mom and dad as well on a small farm. It’s all about money management and desires. I believe many retirees live on much less than the required amount and they would agree this is excessive and wish these figures would change.

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    Issan John

    Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 12:01 am

    Far from “the only country in the world”, Roger B – anyone wanting a similar sort of visa in the UK, for example, needs exactly the same income – except in the UK it has to be genuine annual income while in Thailand it can be savings.

    … and in Thailand you can halve the amount if you marry a Thai, which won’t work in the UK.

    In Spain you need a bit more – 940,000 baht.

    New Zealand – 1.3 million a year, plus 22 million baht invested for four years (and an adult New Zealand son or daughter!) ?

    On the other hand, there’s always Cambodia where things ae more “negotiable” …?

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    Mr cynic

    Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 12:09 am

    The russians are generally far better than the thais at forgery
    Suspect a bit of jealousy is the real reason behind this.

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    Jean-Pierre

    Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 4:15 am

    Roger Bruce, unfortunately, there are actually many countries with the same or even higher requirement for a retirement visa !
    By instance, here in Switzerland, you need to have a minimum income of 46.000e (1.7m baht, or 55k usd), and the visa is good for 5 years.
    Ok, the cost of living is not the same in CH and in TH, but, and by far, Thailand is not the only one with strong requirements.

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    Maverick

    Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 7:10 am

    Roger your statement is factually incorrect, many countries including UK, and New Zealand have similar requirements .

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    Kalyanaraman Santanam

    Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 7:14 am

    tip of iceberg

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    Olga

    Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 10:57 am

    И мне было интересно, почему в Таиланде так много русских))

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    Olga

    Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 10:58 am

    And I wondered why there are so many Russians in Thailand

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    toby andrews

    Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 11:22 am

    It used to be in Pattaya, anyone wanting a retirement visa gave the passport to certain people, and the Thais took care of everything, including the bank account.
    I think it is still the case.
    And at Trat they provided all sorts of illegal visas . . .

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    Dreqo

    Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 12:36 pm

    I’m pretty sure that’s on the list of jobs that Foreigners aren’t allowed to do. They should’ve known better.

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    Dreqo

    Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 12:38 pm

    @Mr. Cynic, obviously, they encroached and got bit by a rat.

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    Issan John

    Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 1:29 pm

    Tom, I’m sure “many retirees live on much less than the required amount and they would agree this is excessive and wish these figures would change” but that’s completely missing the point.

    Countries want retirees / expats who are able to contribute to the economy, not just survive, however happily, by careful “money management” – they’re not charities running retirement homes for impoverished aging expats, so why should Thailand be any different?

    … and if you and your family “live on about 30,000 baht a month” then add on a year’s car tax and insurance and you’re on the minimum required of 400,000 baht per year for an expat married to a Thai, so that’s not “too high” but spot on ?

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    Ben C

    Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 2:30 pm

    I do not question the amounts required but what should be considered when setting the annual amount required is whether a person owns property, house or condo. Because I live in my own condo I don’t pay the monthly rent many do, and this saves me lots every month. My friend lives in my building in a similar sized condo as mine and his yearly living expenses are around 200000 baht higher than mine.

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    James R

    Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 2:39 am

    I wish I could find a Thai woman to marry, move to Issan and live on a farm in the sticks and then have the good fortune to pay for her mum and dad to live as well.

    Some farangs are completely stupid.?

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    Mel Burn

    Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 3:55 am

    I would not put $25K in a Thai bank. Or a Russian one. Or a Chinese one. Etc.

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